Insightful Media Coverage

[SloppyJoe]

So Google provide a list of search results which show article titles with maybe a picture and a line or two, which link to the media organisation's website, and the Code says Google has to pay the media organisations for that privilege? I don't agree with that.

It would of course be different if the search result showed the entire article or a significant portion of it surrounded by Google's ads, but I haven't seen that. Am I missing something?

 

[Keys]

So Google provide a list of search results which show article titles with maybe a picture and a line or two, which link to the media organisation's website, and the Code says Google has to pay the media organisations for that privilege? I don't agree with that.

It would of course be different if the search result showed the entire article or a significant portion of it surrounded by Google's ads, but I haven't seen that. Am I missing something?

Advertising revenue is shifting from media organisations to the likes of google and Facebook, presumably because that provides better results

Since those companies are aggregators who produce none of their own content and have no meaningful competition it’s seen as an unhealthy situation

Whether this legislation is the right answer or if it will even work I’m not really sure but the concept that these global behemoths need scrutiny on their business practices should not be controversial

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Advertising revenue is shifting from media organisations to the likes of google and Facebook, presumably because that provides better results

Since those companies are aggregators who produce none of their own content and have no meaningful competition it’s seen as an unhealthy situation

Whether this legislation is the right answer or if it will even work I’m not really sure but the concept that these global behemoths need scrutiny on their business practices should not be controversial

I am so torn on the legislation. On one side is billionaire tyrant and notorious fake news peddler Rupert Murdoch, and on the other billionaire tyrant and notorious fake news peddler Mark Zuckerberg.

Can't we just legislate them both out of existence instead?

 

[SloppyJoe]

Advertising revenue is shifting from media organisations to the likes of google and Facebook, presumably because that provides better results

Since those companies are aggregators who produce none of their own content and have no meaningful competition it’s seen as an unhealthy situation

Whether this legislation is the right answer or if it will even work I’m not really sure but the concept that these global behemoths need scrutiny on their business practices should not be controversial

The advertising dollar will go where it is most effective to be sure. But when it comes to strictly news and newspapers, I'm pretty sure most of their decline in revenue is due to classifieds moving over to Realestate.com.au/carsales/seek etc (most of which are controlled by media organisations who own the newspapers anyway).

I agree no meaningful competition for Google and Facebook is a real problem. It needs a mind far smarter than mine to sort that out. But I'm pretty sure the proposed legislation isn't the answer. The Feds should focus their energy on making sure they pay their fair share of tax.

 

[kane249]

Facebook and the Aus Government managed to work something out

Australian news coming back on Facebook

Facebook will lift its news ban for Australian users and publishers, less than a week after making the shock decision.

www.news.com.au

 

[Dylan82]

Facebook and the Aus Government managed to work something out

Australian news coming back on Facebook

Facebook will lift its news ban for Australian users and publishers, less than a week after making the shock decision.

www.news.com.au

Of course, agreements being made that will affect everybody's access to information in this country are behind closed doors, without any external scrutiny or debate whatsoever.

I've heard people overseas refer to this country as Russia in the sun - it's this kind of activity that gives their opinion merit.


I can easily imagine those discussions between (Communications minister) Fletcher, (Treasurer) Frydenberg and Facebook going along these lines:


Fletcher: "Look, we just wanted to help out Rupert, who has always had our backs and this is an election year, after all... This is all just a big misunderstanding and I'm sure we can find a way that whatever you end up paying through this new legislation can be compensated (and some) through another means..."

Facebook: "We're happy to work with you as long as our business model and financial outcomes are not impacted negatively."

Frydenberg: "We're looking at adding a subsidy for digital platforms that can be used against the tax they pay in Australia..."

Facebook: "We're happy to look in the other direction should our platform be used to magnify and circulate slanderous misinformation about the opposition during the run-in to your election..."

 

[SloppyJoe]

Of course, agreements being made that will affect everybody's access to information in this country are behind closed doors, without any external scrutiny or debate whatsoever.

I've heard people overseas refer to this country as Russia in the sun - it's this kind of activity that gives their opinion merit.


I can easily imagine those discussions between (Communications minister) Fletcher, (Treasurer) Frydenberg and Facebook going along these lines:


Fletcher: "Look, we just wanted to help out Rupert, who has always had our backs and this is an election year, after all... This is all just a big misunderstanding and I'm sure we can find a way that whatever you end up paying through this new legislation can be compensated (and some) through another means..."

Facebook: "We're happy to work with you as long as our business model and financial outcomes are not impacted negatively."

Frydenberg: "We're looking at adding a subsidy for digital platforms that can be used against the tax they pay in Australia..."

Facebook: "We're happy to look in the other direction should our platform be used to magnify and circulate slanderous misinformation about the opposition during the run-in to your election..."

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

I've heard people overseas refer to this country as Russia in the sun - it's this kind of activity that gives their opinion merit.

ScoMo is more of a Yeltsin than a Putin though, especially if the Maccas stories are accurate.

Essendon and every Russian athlete ever is a good fit though.

 

[Goroyals22]

This really does look well done


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[Chris_6678]

But Simmo is soft and dont use naughty words to his players.

 

[WCE_phil]

This really does look well done


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Moist.

 

[Cuzz09]

This really does look well done


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Looks great. Shame its in a poo year.

Why couldnt they do one in 18. Or did they?

 

[arfadunger]

The ordinerolispeaking podcast (Neroli Meadows) that dropped today with NicNat is worth a listen

 

[kane249]

The ordinerolispeaking podcast (Neroli Meadows) that dropped today with NicNat is worth a listen

Saw something in a news article, something about how he used Julie Bishops contacts to get deep into Palestine near the Syrian border against the club's wishes.

Fearing for his life at one point

 

[flyinghi64]

Looking forward to it but seems to be a lot of Richmond personnel and input which could be a little

 

[Chris_6678]

Looking forward to it but seems to be a lot of Richmond personnel and input which could be a little

Might see Dimma in the background plowing staff.

 

[Tim Buckanowski]

Hi All.

Thought you might be interested in something that I've written for The Mongrel Punt - this is Part 1 of 3.

Between the Flags - The Fall And Rise Of An AFL Powerhouse (Part One) - The Mongrel Punt

The West Coast Eagles have been a powerhouse since their inception. Tim Hunt looks at their rise, fall and rise again in a three part series

themongrelpunt.com

 

[Art OF war]

Hi All.

Thought you might be interested in something that I've written for The Mongrel Punt - this is Part 1 of 3.

Between the Flags - The Fall And Rise Of An AFL Powerhouse (Part One) - The Mongrel Punt

The West Coast Eagles have been a powerhouse since their inception. Tim Hunt looks at their rise, fall and rise again in a three part series

themongrelpunt.com

Brilliant summation of what happened. A must read.

 

[Bender_]

Hi All.

Thought you might be interested in something that I've written for The Mongrel Punt - this is Part 1 of 3.

Between the Flags - The Fall And Rise Of An AFL Powerhouse (Part One) - The Mongrel Punt

The West Coast Eagles have been a powerhouse since their inception. Tim Hunt looks at their rise, fall and rise again in a three part series

themongrelpunt.com

Please post links to the next instalments.

 

[Chris_6678]

Never remember A selwood being a party animal in 07.

 

[BrotherDodge]

Hi All.

Thought you might be interested in something that I've written for The Mongrel Punt - this is Part 1 of 3.

Between the Flags - The Fall And Rise Of An AFL Powerhouse (Part One) - The Mongrel Punt

The West Coast Eagles have been a powerhouse since their inception. Tim Hunt looks at their rise, fall and rise again in a three part series

themongrelpunt.com

I just came here to share that article! Great stuff, man. Looking forward to the next two.

 

[mad_eagle]

Hi All.

Thought you might be interested in something that I've written for The Mongrel Punt - this is Part 1 of 3.

Between the Flags - The Fall And Rise Of An AFL Powerhouse (Part One) - The Mongrel Punt

The West Coast Eagles have been a powerhouse since their inception. Tim Hunt looks at their rise, fall and rise again in a three part series

themongrelpunt.com

Great summation, almost forgot how low things got between 07-10...real “hello darkness my old friend” vibes.

 

[ep2018]

Never remember A selwood being a party animal in 07.

He wasn't, the bloke is a square, in fact all the Selwood bros are. Worst behaved could mean anything though.

 

[Biggie]

Hi All.

Thought you might be interested in something that I've written for The Mongrel Punt - this is Part 1 of 3.

Between the Flags - The Fall And Rise Of An AFL Powerhouse (Part One) - The Mongrel Punt

The West Coast Eagles have been a powerhouse since their inception. Tim Hunt looks at their rise, fall and rise again in a three part series

themongrelpunt.com

Great read. Brought some feelings up I had long suppressed but good to remember where we’ve come from

 

[Chris_6678]

He wasn't, the bloke is a square, in fact all the Selwood bros are. Worst behaved could mean anything though.

Oh i agree but in that article it said in 07 during the international rules in Ireland he was playing up.