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WotImagine being 5 goals up in a granny on your home deck and losing to the worst coast eagles
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Instances where the Preliminary Final was the real grand final
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Hahahaha you sure showed me!
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LOL this guy. Haven’t you embarrassed yourself enough around here?
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The Qualifying Final between Hawthorn and Fitzroy in 1983 was the real Grand Final.
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I keep trying to discuss the topic but West Coast and Collingwood supporters keep bringing up our dynasty.
It’s really annoying!
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Richmond beat West Coast in 2019 while missing Alex Rance a far superior and influential player than Naitanui, plus we're also missing Cotchin and Nankervis
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Went to that game with a late offer for a spare ticket from some dogs supporters as a biased neutral. There was so much blue in the stands and seeing how much it meant to the supporters who travelled from Melbourne that day in the bus convey was incredible.
Deep down inside my gut said the Dogs were winning because it was a true sporting fairytale. Without derailing the thread of conspiracy theories the sporting gods (and I’m not talking about the AFL) were allowing that fairytale to have a happy ending for the Dogs supporters.
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Rance being more influential is an absalute crock. & regardless of the opinion it doesn't take away from the fact the AFL fixturing departamant clearly kissed you guys on the knob by not having the premiers of 2017 & 2018 play each other twice in 2019 aswell as setting up their last 7 games all at the MCG. You dont give the team that dominated at the MCG in 2018 & yet only won one away game the trip off the next year against the premiership winning away team and also the final 7 games to ride out the season at your home ground that you dominate at uninterupted. When every game ends up counting in a season, that fixturing bias was just wrong and broken when there was supposed to be equalisation.
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Don't be so sure about that. We didn't lose in Melbourne at all in 2018. The similar dimensions of Optus helped. I think it would've been a close contest.
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You really keep crying about that do you, Richmond has had West Coast number for over a decade now, they play twice in 2019, Richmond wins twice
Overrated Naitanui wouldn't be able to lace Rance's boots either
Given the massive armchair ride the Dogs received, the fact that Buddy was clearly hampered and a bunch of role players playing out of their skin for the Dogs in that game, and yet they still "only" won by three goals, I think that's a ridiculous piece of prognostication.
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Nah i just let Tiger supporters know when they claim they should of won 2018. At the point of 2018 you guys had won a flag. That didn't shoe you in for anything. After 18 the AFL made sure to very well set the Tigers up for the next year whilst they had finally pulled theirs together. You cant deflect and claim Tigers would have won twice in 2019 when they barely beat us in 2017, got their arses handed to them in 2018, and then barely won in the one game in 2019.
We beat you in 21 in an epic before the wheels completely fell off too so quite your fluff.
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2013 PF - Hawks vs Geelong.
Not to say Freo didn't deserve to make the GF that year, but this game was better than the GF by a margin.
Plus it had the rivalry, the curse, the pressure for the Hawks to win after choking in 2012. We had to beat the only team that consistently beat us, in order to avenge the previous year's loss.
In an evil alternative universe the Hawks are behind when the siren goes, and Buddy doesn't hear it when he's 30-out and still passes it to Rioli again in the square, but we lose. Man, imagine if that happened.
Not to say Freo didn't deserve to make the GF that year, but this game was better than the GF by a margin.
Plus it had the rivalry, the curse, the pressure for the Hawks to win after choking in 2012. We had to beat the only team that consistently beat us, in order to avenge the previous year's loss.
In an evil alternative universe the Hawks are behind when the siren goes, and Buddy doesn't hear it when he's 30-out and still passes it to Rioli again in the square, but we lose. Man, imagine if that happened.
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West Coast lost to very mediocre sides such as Port Adelaide and Hawthorn at home in 2019, but somehow were going to beat the premiers, despite losing to them missing multiple key players, OK then
but but nic nat
I almost orgasmed.
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West Coast lost to very mediocre sides such as Port Adelaide and Hawthorn at home in 2019, but somehow were going to beat the premiers, despite losing to them missing multiple key players, OK then
West Coast squandered their own chances in 2019 losing to the pies at home by a point and the Hawks in the last round after earlier beating both in Victoria. Thats not the point though. I never claim Tigers were not deserving winners. I claim they were set up for success by the AFL fixturing departamant. Especially after their results of the previous two years. And yes, based on the closeness of the results of matchs at the MCG in 2017 & 2019 coupled with the hiding at Optus you got in 2018 (with Cotchin, Nank & Rance in) do i believe Richmond would have lost at Optus in 2019.
Calling the door knocker more influential than Naitanui is bloody madness too. Rance was a great defender. Naitanui amped a whole side.
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I understand Naitanui was probably your childhood hero, but the fact is he isn't as good as you like to think he is and not on Rance's level, a elite KPD is far more important than a good but not great ruck who was useless around the ground
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2025 - Bris v Collingwood. Can add that to the list.
IMO, Brisbane vs Geelong was still the deserving GF, even though it was a walk-over for the last quarter and a half. Collingwood sputtered their way into the finals and had a great Week 1, but wasn't really a standout from halfway in the season onwards.
The only problem with that theory is where Richmond played their first final. At the Gabba versus Brisbane. I think if the AFL were looking to rig a draw in favour of someone, having them play the Qualifying final at a particularly awkward interstate venue wouldn't exactly fit the narrative.
Second problem was that Richmond blew Brisbane away in any case. Maybe they were just too good.
lol what, Collingwood would not of beat Geelong
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An advantage set fixture to help make the 4 in the first place. After having already made the 4 the previous two years. In a time where there was officially supposed to be equalisation. There already was a pre finals bye in place that surely will be scrapped soon. The Lions hadn't played finals in 10 years either so thats not something to fluff up.
I never will say Tigers were not a great team or weren't going to win in 2019 regardless.
I claim the AFL gave them advantage not having them play the best away team from the previous year in West Coast at Optus aswell as the MCG. They got theirs handed to them in 2018 away in a year they finished top off their MCG prowess.
I point out having an uninterupted 7 games to ride out the season in 2019 at the MCG after winning all games but one there the previous year is a farce. You cluster their away games in the first 2 thirds of the year and not make them play the hardest non Vic side from the previous year, especially when they only won 1 of their 5 away games in 2018.
I mention this when arrogant Richmond supporters suggest 2018 should of been theirs. Its like hey, in 2017 the one game at the MCG was under 2 goals. No Naitanui. Still had Rance, Cotchin & Nank. 2018 when Tigers were reigning premiers and WC had Naitanui we punished you (@ Optus). Still had Rance, Cotchin & Nank. In 2019 in the one match at the MCG, the 6/7th game to finish out the H & A season, the games decided by a goal. No Naitanui & no Rance, Cotchin & Nank.
Whats the point? Dont talk down our 2018. The results showed without our most influential player we could go the rounds with you. With him you got punished. Is it Richmonds fault Nics knees didn't hold up? Of course not. If the footy Gods didn't strike him down late 2016 though, much stiffer opposision in 2017 than Adelaide & 2019 than GWS is all i say.
Do Richmond supporters think it was fair to get the last 7 games at home in 2019 after their results of the previous 2 years?
Do they believe it would have made more sense for the premiers of 2017 & 2018 to play each other twice in 2019?
AND FINALLY ON TOPIC. The 2018 preliminary final was not the real GF like something out of the 90s. The 2018 GF was epic, more than worthy, in the top echelon of all time & had the greatest and most immortal drop punt ever to be kicked.
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