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Intelligent Design or Evolution?

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Playing Devil's advocate here but its entirely possible the designers are eternal, in fact, its possible that we are eternal.

Not sure what you're asking with the second question.

For real? ok, He was telling us about these souls, I've never seen one, just want to know how to detect a soul.
 
Thanks for attempting to steer this thread back in to interesting waters Karl.:thumbsu:


Playing Devil's advocate here but its entirely possible the designers are eternal, in fact, its possible that we are eternal.

Indeed, what happens to the atoms that make up our bodies when we die?

Are they annihilated? Do some of them disappear? Are they all accounted for when we die?
 

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For real? ok, He was telling us about these souls, I've never seen one, just want to know how to detect a soul.

If only we could leap forward a thousand years.

Karl and my responses would be like calling the Sun a star, and the big bright things in the sky galaxies.

You guys would be like the Ancient Church saying that if you sailed far enough you would fall off the edge of the world. Saying we do not have a soul is silly. We do.
 
For real? ok, He was telling us about these souls, I've never seen one, just want to know how to detect a soul.


I think there was a grammatical error which made it hard to read (not trying to nitpick or have a crack, I seriously just didn't know what was being asked).

RE: The soul, I think you can get in touch with it through meditation (prayer has similar results, I've been told) but being that its not a physical construct it would be hard to describe - one of those things that you really have to experience I guess.
 
Thanks for attempting to steer this thread back in to interesting waters Karl.:thumbsu:




Indeed, what happens to the atoms that make up our bodies when we die?

Are they annihilated? Do some of them disappear? Are they all accounted for when we die?

No mass is ever lost from the universe.If your body is incinerated,its weight in smoke and ash is exactly what is was in flesh.
 
1. What is this design?

It is a nursery for souls. A much more advanced being/s have the technology to create everything we see to school new souls in the Universe.

2. What was this design supposed to do?

Souls that have the capacity are introduced into their world.

What about these souls?

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Yes, we're the ones with a superiority complex...

You are, you're a bunch of bullies and it's repetitious and boring. You look for christians then pounce on the obvious flaws in their arguments just to give yourselves a sense of superiority.

An truly intelligent person would never enter in to a discussion on Faith versus Science in the first place.
 
I think there was a grammatical error which made it hard to read (not trying to nitpick or have a crack, I seriously just didn't know what was being asked).

RE: The soul, I think you can get in touch with it through meditation (prayer has similar results, I've been told) but being that its not a physical construct it would be hard to describe - one of those things that you really have to experience I guess.

I love your mind Karlos.

:thumbsu:
 
If only we could leap forward a thousand years.

Karl and my responses would be like calling the Sun a star, and the big bright things in the sky galaxies.

You guys would be like the Ancient Church saying that if you sailed far enough you would fall off the edge of the world. Saying we do not have a soul is silly. We do.

Lol ok then. Put it under your pillow and you might get $5.
 

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People who do not believe in a higher being are just plain ridiculous. This higher being is what we call GOD.

If you want to talk about the origins of us humans and the Universe it will require talking about it's creator.

Sorry but a big bang for no reason and with no creator of this bang, just contradicts everything we knew before about 10000 years ago when we were ****** with.

Righto mate, there's no point arguing about it with you.:thumbsu:
 
Thanks for attempting to steer this thread back in to interesting waters Karl.:thumbsu:

No worries, you hit the nail on the head when you said it shouldn't be a matter of Christianity (or any other Abrahamic religion) vs Darwinism, as it really just cheapens and narrows the debate.


Indeed, what happens to the atoms that make up our bodies when we die?

Are they annihilated? Do some of them disappear? Are they all accounted for when we die?

I'm no physics professor but I'm pretty sure atoms can't be annihilated, and I've read that thing about the 21 grams theory, but I've also read it was discredited. Who knows what to believe! :)

What I do know, through personal experience, is that I have a soul.
 
Lol ok then. Put it under your pillow and you might get $5.

lol ok then.

How did we evolve the capacity to explore the universe, to seek out it's answers, and to search for a spiritual understanding of it all?

Because we needed it to catch animals to eat?

Or was it because only the arrogant Apes decided to stand up and walk around?
 
You are, you're a bunch of bullies and it's repetitious and boring. You look for christians then pounce on the obvious flaws in their arguments just to give yourselves a sense of superiority.

An truly intelligent person would never enter in to a discussion on Faith versus Science in the first place.

I'm sorry am I not in a thread "Intelligent Design or Evolution?"

Should we all just not post.

I am sick to death of people claiming nonsense and then crying bully when we challenge it.

Those beliefs impact on the world I live in and I'm not going to sit back and just ignore it.
 
The intelligent design of the process of evolution utilising the language of the universe: mathematics.
 

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No mass is ever lost from the universe.If your body is incinerated,its weight in smoke and ash is exactly what is was in flesh.

So you're claiming that the total sum of atoms that make us up are never lost or multiplied, they are merely transformed?

It looks like Karl might be closer to the truth than anyone else, perhaps we are immortal?
 
lol ok then.

How did we evolve the capacity to explore the universe, to seek out it's answers, and to search for a spiritual understanding of it all?

Because we needed it to catch animals to eat?

Or was it because only the arrogant Apes decided to stand up and walk around?

It's just a bunch of chemical reactions and electrical pulses in our brain.Why is that so hard to take for people like you?There is no soul,no afterlife and no gods,unless by gods you mean super-intelligent beings,which i guess exist somewhere in the universe.
 
I'm sorry am I not in a thread "Intelligent Design or Evolution?"

Should we all just not post.

I am sick to death of people claiming nonsense and then crying bully when we challenge it.

Those beliefs impact on the world I live in and I'm not going to sit back and just ignore it.

You're in this thread because it massages your ego, nothing else.

I would sooner try and learn something than read the same old regurgitated drivel.
 
So you're claiming that the total sum of atoms that make us up are never lost or multiplied, they are merely transformed?

It looks like Karl might be closer to the truth than anyone else, perhaps we are immortal?

I'm not claiming it...you can do some reading and check it out for yourself.Even mass that is sucked into a black hole is just compressed,not lost.
 
What about those devout Muslim folk? Or Hindu who have several Gods?

Everyone has their own explanation or understanding of what I'm saying. Even you guys. You call it evolution, that's fine. The Hindus Hindu-afi, the Buddhists Buddha-afi and the scientists, well I love those guys. They actually provide solid evidence for what I seem to have an understanding of.
 
lol ok then.

How did we evolve the capacity to explore the universe, to seek out it's answers, and to search for a spiritual understanding of it all?


Because we needed it to catch animals to eat?

Or was it because only the arrogant Apes decided to stand up and walk around?

The capacity to explore the universe. You mean to move?

As for a spiritual understanding, Are you proposing that if something is thought up by man then it must be true?

You seem to have a very fractured understanding of the process of natural selection.
 

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