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Given the topics of dicussion on this board lately, this makes interesting reading.
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Originally posted by Turbocat
Our list is not up to it and we cant do much about it. Why? Cause its too young, too inexperienced and too inept
I think , we are still paying the heavy price for the Ayres era and will be paying for a while yet. Have a Captain at our list and its obvious!!! The break down of the players and when they were drafted shows we lack players from the 94-98 period. That "guy’s" era has gutted Geelong so badly that it wont be till another four years of drafts that our list balances. Geelong has probably drafted as good as it ever has in the post 99 but there are players getting games that they should not be getting games because we lack solid core group of players from this era. Eg. from a list 40 players we have only 11 that are pre 1999, Out of that 11 we have 8 from the 94-98 group and only four directly drafted. This shows how pathetic our drafting really was. If they hadn’t got Scarlett thru F/S and Harley in trade it would be even worse.
We haven’t got enough from this era and the players we have not become the level one would expect. Mostly they are run of the mill players that are good enough to be support level players but not ever good enough to hold up a side by themselves. Likes of Milburn, Wojcinski, Mooney, Rahilly, Kingsley have proven they cannot be solid players and have failed to be the leaders at the club.
So, the fact is, like it or not, we either have wait another 4-6 years for players like Ablett, Ling,Bartel,Kelly etc to become fully senior players in age, games played and experience, have a couple terrible years, top with quality pick players or we will have to trade some potential star players for more players that haven’t secured themselves a place at on another clubs list, like we did with Sanderson, Pickering, Tudor, McGrath, Harley, Loats and Kingsley. Some times this work’s , some times it doesn’t but one will rarely get a play like this become an AFL top liner.
Personally, I’m sick of negative, boring football. Sick of basic skill errors. Sick of losing in big games. Sick of “Journeymen” being painted as champions. Id rather lose every game for 3 years to ensure a side like StKilda or Brisbane than persist with a 50/50 strugle Street aproach that will never win one a flag in amillion years.
Thanks Mr Ayres for the fine legacy that you have left the Cats. A decade of crap. Have a look Crows cause we are your future!!
Our list is not up to it and we cant do much about it. Why? Cause its too young, too inexperienced and too inept
I think , we are still paying the heavy price for the Ayres era and will be paying for a while yet. Have a Captain at our list and its obvious!!! The break down of the players and when they were drafted shows we lack players from the 94-98 period. That "guy’s" era has gutted Geelong so badly that it wont be till another four years of drafts that our list balances. Geelong has probably drafted as good as it ever has in the post 99 but there are players getting games that they should not be getting games because we lack solid core group of players from this era. Eg. from a list 40 players we have only 11 that are pre 1999, Out of that 11 we have 8 from the 94-98 group and only four directly drafted. This shows how pathetic our drafting really was. If they hadn’t got Scarlett thru F/S and Harley in trade it would be even worse.
We haven’t got enough from this era and the players we have not become the level one would expect. Mostly they are run of the mill players that are good enough to be support level players but not ever good enough to hold up a side by themselves. Likes of Milburn, Wojcinski, Mooney, Rahilly, Kingsley have proven they cannot be solid players and have failed to be the leaders at the club.
So, the fact is, like it or not, we either have wait another 4-6 years for players like Ablett, Ling,Bartel,Kelly etc to become fully senior players in age, games played and experience, have a couple terrible years, top with quality pick players or we will have to trade some potential star players for more players that haven’t secured themselves a place at on another clubs list, like we did with Sanderson, Pickering, Tudor, McGrath, Harley, Loats and Kingsley. Some times this work’s , some times it doesn’t but one will rarely get a play like this become an AFL top liner.
Personally, I’m sick of negative, boring football. Sick of basic skill errors. Sick of losing in big games. Sick of “Journeymen” being painted as champions. Id rather lose every game for 3 years to ensure a side like StKilda or Brisbane than persist with a 50/50 strugle Street aproach that will never win one a flag in amillion years.
Thanks Mr Ayres for the fine legacy that you have left the Cats. A decade of crap. Have a look Crows cause we are your future!!

