Interesting developements re Warnock & ROK

[Aphrodite]

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/okeefes-deal-hits-the-wall/2008/10/09/1223145543685.html

RYAN O'Keefe could yet end up remaining a Swan after negotiations with Hawthorn stalled yesterday when the Hawks declined a Sydney request to swap O'Keefe for midfielder Jordan Lewis.

Having expressed an initial preference for a player-for-player swap, the Swans had been handed a list of seven or eight "untouchables" by Hawthorn, which yesterday discounted trading its first draft pick for O'Keefe.

But when the Swans nominated Lewis, who was not on the list of untouchables, the Hawks were quick to add him to that group and decline the deal.

Hawthorn said it would not trade pick 16 as part of a deal for O'Keefe, preferring its second draft pick (34) "and a talented player".

With discussions over the uncontracted O"Keefe having stagnated, O'Keefe, his management and Sydney are understood to be open to the idea of a reconciliation.

Financially, the Swans would offer a better deal than Hawthorn. The Hawks can offer him about $400,000 a season over three years, rather than the $450,000 the Sydney forward was paid in 2008.

The only other possibility for O'Keefe at this stage appears to be Carlton, which was open to the idea of swapping first-round picks with Sydney — handing the Swans pick 6 and possibly a player in return for O'Keefe and pick 12. Sydney and Carlton were yet to discuss this deal last night.

Carlton is understood to be better able to accommodate O'Keefe's financial terms than Hawthorn.

The Hawks had appeared close to securing O'Keefe on Wednesday before talks faltered yesterday — as did a number of lesser deals.

With the deadline closing at 2pm today, a flurry of activity is expected, but the upshot is expected to be that some players will be stranded at their original clubs.

Carlton has expressed interest in North Melbourne's Corey Jones should it be unable to negotiate on O'Keefe.

Carlton has been focused this week on negotiations with Fremantle for ruckman Robert Warnock. Mediation between the two clubs yesterday failed to broker a deal.

The Blues have sweetened their offer of pick 24 to Fremantle for Warnock, with a proposal to swap their fourth-round pick for Fremantle's fifth-round pick.

Fremantle has retained a hard line throughout, with Melbourne offering a superior draft pick (19).

The Dockers wanted a higher pick from Carlton. The club's board has encouraged the football department to take a strong stance in negotiations.

 

[Moo]

Interesting.

I have no idea what it all means (and I am guessing neither does the journo), but interesting all the same.

ROK would be a very good get but I wonder which player you would put on the table with the upgrade?

 

[thylacine60]

Geez, A. This is the longest week since Trevor Nisbett told Greg Miller "I'll get back to you in a week".

 

[Warsaw]

Very intersting news but also disturbing

I don't know if i'm ready to part with 6 even if it is for 12.

Right now I'm getting pretty fed up with Freo

I seriously don't know what to expect anymore.

 

[Silvagnis]

Bentick should still be kept if we get ROK.

Just ask Five.

The only other possibility for O'Keefe at this stage appears to be Carlton, which was open to the idea of swapping first-round picks with Sydney — handing the Swans pick 6 and possibly a player in return for O'Keefe and pick 12. Sydney and Carlton were yet to discuss this deal last night

If they are yet to discuss this deal, where did this offer come from?

Carlton told The Age they were prepared to downtrade pick 6 even before they discussed it with Sydney.

LOL.

 

[Aphrodite]

Geez, A. This is the longest week since Trevor Nisbett told Greg Miller "I'll get back to you in a week".

How does that saying go again Thy ......

It's been a long week in football

This is so far the worst & most boring trade week I can remember.

 

[Silvagnis]

Interesting.

I have no idea what it all means (and I am guessing neither does the journo), but interesting all the same.

ROK would be a very good get but I wonder which player you would put on the table with the upgrade?

Bentick.

 

[Blue Dimension]

God no, seriously Corey Jones?

You've got to be kidding me.

 

[Aphrodite]

ROK would be a very good get but I wonder which player you would put on the table with the upgrade?

that's obvious ........ Murphy & Gibbs

 

[Revenge I Seek]

Pffft, so Fremantle are prepared to go against Warnock's wishes and trade him to the Demons for a pick 6 selections earlier... bugger off.

 

[Aphrodite]

God no, seriously Corey Jones?

You've got to be kidding me.

That's exactly what I thought BD

 

[blue_boys]

very interesting article

I am one that is for getting O'Keefe and I would be fine with the trade involving us swapping pick 6 with pick 12. I can see O'Keefe playing in our next premiership and having a big impact, as he is the same age as Fev and if people say that O'Keefe is too old then wouldn't Fev be on the trade table? (I don't want him too as I think if we had O'keefe, him and Fev would be in our next premiership team)

We would still have a very good pick at number 12 as it is the best draft ever and basically every first rounder is a very good prospect.

Can't wait for 2pm today

 

[Blue Dimension]

That's exactly what I thought BD

Let's hope nothing comes of it. If i come home tomorrow and see Jones has been traded to Carlton for a valuable pick i'll be very dirty.

 

[Blue Dawn]

Let's hope nothing comes of it. If i come home tomorrow and see Jones has been traded to Carlton for a valuable pick i'll be very dirty.

So would i BD but what if it simply involved a straight swap with someone like Bentick?

 

[Silvagnis]

God no, seriously Corey Jones?

You've got to be kidding me.

Because Jones is no Bentick and can't play?

What the?

We do need another forward, but I'm not sold on Jones either for pick 24 or a player.

Can't see it working out.

Yet some people need to pay more attention when they watch football if they think Jones isn't any good.

The same people think Bentick is worth more than the suggested trades posted on this board.

 

[Blue Dimension]

Because Jones is no Bentick and can't play?

What the?

We do need another forward, but I'm not sold on Jones either for pick 24 or a player.

Can't see it working out.

Yet some people need to pay more attention when they watch football if they think Jones isn't any good.

The same people think Bentick is worth more than the suggested trades posted on this board.

What the hell does Jones have to do with Bentick for crying out loud? One is a midfielder, one is a forward, one is 23, the other is 28.

Please, just stop, its beyond the joke.

Clearly you don't value Bentick, and clearly I do. Let's leave it at that.

 

[jonoman89]

I hope to God we don't get O'Keefe. He will cost far, far too much and will be retired when we are in full force.

USE YOUR HEADS CARLTON!

24 and 56 for Warnock and 69 seems pretty useless. Would we actually use pick 69 anyway? We'd have pick 6, 50, 69 and Warnock to fill in 4 places....hmm maybe that's possible.

 

[Blue Dawn]

What the hell does Jones have to do with Bentick for crying out loud? One is a midfielder, one is a forward, one is 23, the other is 28.

Please, just stop, its beyond the joke.

Clearly you don't value Bentick, and clearly I do. Let's leave it at that.

It's not necessarily a matter of not rating Adam, it's more a case of rating Jones somewhat similarly and seeing a role for him in improving a key weakness in our strucure - our forward line.

 

[Blue Dimension]

So would i BD but what if it simply involved a straight swap with someone like Bentick?

Personally BD i feel like we shouldn't do it.

For one he was dropped this year due to a length of bad form, and although can be valuable to a team, has been inconsistent throughout the course of his career.

Added to this he's 28, and i don't feel we should be trading for players in his age group. Would rather continue to look towards youth and continue building on our team, much like Hawthorn have.

Others may see it differently.

 

[Aphrodite]

24 and 56 for Warnock and 69 seems pretty useless. Would we actually use pick 69 anyway? We'd have pick 6, 50, 69 and Warnock to fill in 4 places....hmm maybe that's possible.

Our picks are 6, 24, 40, 56, 72, 88, 104 & 120 which we will more than likely PASS on the last 3-4 picks, so if that scenario pans out, we will have picks 6, 40, 69 then 72 hmmmmmmm

 

[Gouldy]

bloody freo. stubborn bastards, they're in a dream world if they think they are gunna get our Top Pick. id like to tell them that myself... but i found out the other night that their an extremely precious bunch over there, handing out Red ones willy-nilly.

 

[blues4flag]

I hope to God we don't get O'Keefe. He will cost far, far too much and will be retired when we are in full force.

USE YOUR HEADS CARLTON!

24 and 56 for Warnock and 69 seems pretty useless. Would we actually use pick 69 anyway? We'd have pick 6, 50, 69 and Warnock to fill in 4 places....hmm maybe that's possible.

We'd have to use 69. A club must draft a minimum three players in the National Draft.

 

[thylacine60]

bloody freo. stubborn bastards, they're in a dream world if they think they are gunna get our Top Pick. id like to tell them that myself... but i found out the other night that their an extremely precious bunch over there, handing out Red ones willy-nilly.

Be cool, G. Don't give em the satisfaction. Anyone we don't get we never wanted. Anyone we do get, we are rapt about. We win on every deal we do. Sorted? Sweeet!

 

[4blues]

Right now I'm getting pretty fed up with Freo

As are all of Carltons supporters, Hope freo get nothing, wouldnt mind Ray from the dogs for Bentick.
Daniel Harris, well maybe setanta, and as for ROK the jury is still out.
What ever happens we could be very unpopular at 2.01pm today, and if we can snare Warnock i will have a from ear to ear, mainly because we have screwed the dockers, if we cant get a deal i wont be because it means that the shockers get nothing.

 

[Jack TY]

I just hope @ 2pm today, we still have pick 6. If we happen to snare Warnock and to a lesser extent ROK (somehow) - bonus.

Harris and Jones - No
Ray -