Analysis Interview with Binuk Kodiuwakku - AFC's player analytics expert
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Just highlights how amateur Australian sports almost are compared to overseas. We have one bloke doing this work for us, Liverpool have 6 guys with PHD's leading their department and the Patriots go to MIT to hire a bunch of people.
So is our bloke included in the soft coaching cap? Could we throw more money at it if we wanted to?
Seems a better investment than CM
I big fan of it measuring the team and the players value, but a sceptic for drafting in the AFL. In the USA the players are fully developed, here they are still growing. The numbers would have you pick Powell Pepper over Nat Fyfe by a long way, because one was near his peak already and the other was still growing into their body.
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I bet it's the Knicks.
Which was one of the key points of the discussion. You never solely rely on either the data/numbers, but at the same time, the numbers might highlight something that you would otherwise miss. At the end of the day Hamish has the final say, the numbers are used as a discussion point, to create discussion, to ensure we're not missing/overlooking anything.
You're a fool if you're ruled by the numbers, but at the same time you're a fool if you don't consider what they may be saying.
Certainly can see what he means with the Wizards being behind the curve in that area.
I have heard that Vlade Divac from the Kings doesn't believe in analytics either.
A very interesting listen, appreciate the share.
When did he start working with us? From his Twitter feed I'd say the beginning of 2018?
As he notes with Richmond example, this is an area where you won't see the true results for a number of years.
Hopefully we persist and provide the resources to really get it going.
As he notes with Richmond example, this is an area where you won't see the true results for a number of years.
Hopefully we persist and provide the resources to really get it going.
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If its a far reaching vision do we need Binuk-ulars?
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I wonder how much we use this not only for drafting/trading but in team selection
I’d say not much as this 1 guys scope is already quite broad and it’s require probably different formulas (even for each role) be developed to the recruiting one.
It’s probably an area that could grow into though particularly when he speaks of removing bias etc. it could highlight bias of coaches and help them see players differently. Could also be used when there is disagreement on selections to add in an objective tie breaker of sorts.
Could also be used to track players form and assist in those nan conversations a few of our guys have had issue with.
I’d love to know the kind of formula used though because our game is so dynamic with so many different roles it makes it harder than say basketball where there’s 5 guys on a court with pretty defined roles. I’d say the combination of less money (than US sport or soccer) plus harder game to apply analytics to is a clear reason we are so far behind the other sports compared to
I’d say not much as this 1 guys scope is already quite broad and it’s require probably different formulas (even for each role) be developed to the recruiting one.
It’s probably an area that could grow into though particularly when he speaks of removing bias etc. it could highlight bias of coaches and help them see players differently. Could also be used when there is disagreement on selections to add in an objective tie breaker of sorts.
Could also be used to track players form and assist in those nan conversations a few of our guys have had issue with.
I’d love to know the kind of formula used though because our game is so dynamic with so many different roles it makes it harder than say basketball where there’s 5 guys on a court with pretty defined roles. I’d say the combination of less money (than US sport or soccer) plus harder game to apply analytics to is a clear reason we are so far behind the other sports compared to
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Two completely different needs and metrics...
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Do you work for Man U?
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Who would have though of using data to help making decisions! The AFL has dabbled in this with the draft combine, but that would be considered a single data point, so also good to see we are leading the way.
I wonder if he can do anything about our salary cap strategy with his approach.
I wonder if he can do anything about our salary cap strategy with his approach.
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"Where are Carlton likely to finish in 2019 to evaluate the pick swap potential."
We didn't need much data to answer that one!
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This is a very different table set up to the others that we have seen. Most were hardly looking at computers. Reidy looks like he's just sitting there waiting for SOS to call
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One of the easiest examples is that basic stat analysis is relatively quick and easy to apply to a large number of players.
There may then be several players on nobody's radar that are flagged as having potential and targeted for scouting. Many will be quickly crossed off, but this is where a lot of rookies or "Hamish specials" could be identified.
Early ID of the "WTF?" picks that turn out to be gems.
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When the phone rang Reidy would move the phone away to the other wall, where the camera couldn't see him. I noticed the set up on the night being vastly different to every other club.
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Is there any footage of us in the night? I'm really interest to see it but want it to stay confidential at the same time
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This reminds me of something I heard on a podcast last week where apparently Oscar Macinerny was tipped off to Bris based on some lower level (? Val reserves) form by a connection to the recruiter who was coaching there. They then watched him closely at that level. By the time he was promoted to the higher level and was then on the radar of other clubs they already had a good base opinion with the jump able to solidify that rather than start from there.
It was said the fact they had seen him for longer rather than just a short patch late year enabled them to have more confidence in picking him than other clubs may have.
Similar could be said for Stewart st Geelong and Scarlett’s coaching recommendation.
If analytics puts some of these off the radar players on our sights to at least run the eye test over earlier than otherwise then it can only be a good thing
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