Iranian Uprising

[Aussie in exile]

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Haven't medvedev and putin threatend to do the same to Ukraine or is that different?

Ready for nuclear war if the west wants this
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Has the West threatened russia with nucler weapons since russia invaded Ukraine?

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

Trump threatens he will nuke iran

Cool story bro

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Must admit it's very funny seeing hasbara talking heads positing that Iran may have committed a war crime.

 

[steve strange]

Ready for nuclear war if the west wants this

Has the West threatened russia with nucler weapons since russia invaded Ukraine?
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Yes!!!!

 

[steve strange]

Constantly getting caught lying / posting & pushing trash updates

Capitalism in turmoil !!!

 

[Zidane98]

Has the West threatened russia with nucler weapons since russia invaded Ukraine?

Yes!!!!
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Quotes please. This time no bullshit off handed out of context comments thanks.

 

[steve strange]

Yes!!!!

Quotes please. This time no bullshit off handed out of context comments thanks.
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Will supply to Ukraine

UK And France To Join Forces For Nuclear Deterrence

The British and French say that they can launch a joint nuclear response to a range of “extreme threats,” as fears that U.S. interest in Europe is waning. The British and French say that they can launch a joint nuclear response to a range of “extreme threats,” as fears that U.S. interest in...

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[Zidane98]

Quotes please. This time no bullshit off handed out of context comments thanks.

Will supply to Ukraine

UK And France To Join Forces For Nuclear Deterrence

The British and French say that they can launch a joint nuclear response to a range of “extreme threats,” as fears that U.S. interest in Europe is waning. The British and French say that they can launch a joint nuclear response to a range of “extreme threats,” as fears that U.S. interest in...

www.twz.com

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There is no nuclear threats against Russia in here.

I hope your handler gives you some retraining.

 

[steve strange]

Will supply to Ukraine

UK And France To Join Forces For Nuclear Deterrence

The British and French say that they can launch a joint nuclear response to a range of “extreme threats,” as fears that U.S. interest in Europe is waning. The British and French say that they can launch a joint nuclear response to a range of “extreme threats,” as fears that U.S. interest in...

www.twz.com

Will launch nuclear response. But now European desperate for Russian oil . Ukraine is stuffed

I hope your handler gives you some retraining.
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[Zidane98]

Will launch nuclear response. But now European desperate for Russian oil . Ukraine is stuffed

I hope your handler gives you some retraining.

Comprehension needs working on comrade.

Joint nuclear response is deterrence. That is not a threat to nuke Russia.

You may need retraining what response means.

You have not quoted anyone threatening Russia with a nuke.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Has the West threatened russia with nucler weapons since russia invaded Ukraine?

Yes!!!!
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Link

 

[Aussie in exile]

Quotes please. This time no bullshit off handed out of context comments thanks.

Will supply to Ukraine

UK And France To Join Forces For Nuclear Deterrence

The British and French say that they can launch a joint nuclear response to a range of “extreme threats,” as fears that U.S. interest in Europe is waning. The British and French say that they can launch a joint nuclear response to a range of “extreme threats,” as fears that U.S. interest in...

www.twz.com

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So was this statement before or after russia threatened Ukraine with nuclear weapons?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Irans murdered tens of thousands of its own citizens this year already and scared millions more into submission. This isnt going to stop unless someone tries to do something about it.

Genuine question - where do you get that figure from?

 

[Seeds]

Genuine question - where do you get that figure from?

Like all mass murders by government they are estimates as no one keeps official figures and the government is delibrately trying to hide it. But all the estimates ive read place it between 17000 and 36000 deaths over a 48 hour period starting on Jan 8th.

Here is two:

• UN special rapporteur, Mai Sato, noted on January 16, 2026, that the death toll could be as high as 20,000.
• Irans International editorial board estimated over 35600.

This doesnt include the 30-50 thousand people arrested and the judicial murders that began in February of some of these arrested people.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Like all mass murders by government they are estimates as no one keeps official figures and the government is delibrately trying to hide it. But all the estimates ive read place it between 17000 and 36000 deaths over a 48 hour period starting on Jan 8th.

Here is two:

• UN special rapporteur, Mai Sato, noted on January 16, 2026, that the death toll could be as high as 20,000.
• Irans International editorial board estimated over 35600.

This doesnt include the 30-50 thousand people arrested and the judicial murders that began in February of some of these arrested people.

Where are your links?

Are you asking AI?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Iran International is a London-based Saudi owned news network - I'm afraid that's worthless.

Mai Sato -



Your AI is playing pretty loose with the facts.

 

[Seeds]

Iran International is a London-based Saudi owned news network - I'm afraid that's worthless.

Mai Sato -

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Your AI is playing pretty loose with the facts.

Wow. For one iran themselves have already announced they murdered 3000 people in 2 days. That alone is enough to be absolutely horrified is it not? At that point it doesnt really matter how much higher the number is in terms of how one responds. Or do you think 3000 murdered is fine and no big deal?

And anyone applying Occams razor knows that the government estimate is a massive massive underestimate. They had to announce a number, even during a internet blackout, cos it was too hard to hide all of it and pretend there was zero deaths because people were seeing dead people in the streets. And if you are gullible enough to believe the government number is even within 200 percent of the true number then I have some land to sell you.

The Human rights activists news agency (who historically have been correct with estimates during previous crackdowns) have announced they confirmed 6000 dead the week after and have 17000 more deaths on top that they were investigating.

The Guardian has also reported a collective of 80 medical people across 12 provinces in Iran have been collecting data in their local areas and combining it with data at morgues and extrapolating to come up with am estimate of 30 000 dead. Are you going to dismiss the Guardian as AI fake news too?

How exactly do you think groups estimate mass murders when governments are covering it up? They speak to medical people and graveyards on the ground where they have contacts, work out death ratios and then extrapolate across regions. That is how it works.

And the fact you brush off people from the UN using data from doctors as AI to maintain a narrative in your head is quite disturbing. If you arent going to accept estimates from credible sources and even brush off the governments own admittance of their own mass murder (they have literally admitted it) then your views are no longer worth considering as you literally are rejecting the concept of empericial evidence. Stuck in a bubble that rejects all information thats not consistent with their current perception of reality.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Oh lordy, you've jumped up on your high horse to deliver this one. How's the weather up there?

Wow. For one iran themselves have already announced they murdered 3000 people in 2 days. That alone is enough to be absolutely horrified is it not? At that point it doesnt really matter how much higher the number is in terms of how one responds. Or do you think 3000 murdered is fine and no big deal?

Any number of people killed by their own government is too many, of course.

And anyone applying Occams razor knows that the government estimate is a massive massive underestimate. They had to announce a number, even during a internet blackout, cos it was too hard to hide all of it and pretend there was zero deaths because people were seeing dead people in the streets. And if you are gullible enough to believe the government number is even within 200 percent of the true number then I have some land to sell you.

tl;dr

The Human rights activists news agency (who historically have been correct with estimates during previous crackdowns) have announced they confirmed 6000 dead the week after and have 17000 more deaths on top that they were investigating.

I'd say this is closer to the correct number.

The Guardian has also reported a collective of 80 medical people across 12 provinces in Iran have been collecting data in their local areas and combining it with data at morgues and extrapolating to come up with am estimate of 30 000 dead. Are you going to dismiss the Guardian as AI fake news too?

Why not just link to the article, instead of this amateur paraphrasing?

Here: https://www.theguardian.com/global-...ll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

How exactly do you think groups estimate mass murders when governments are covering it up? They speak to medical people and graveyards on the ground where they have contacts, work out death ratios and then extrapolate across regions. That is how it works.

Spare me, please.

And the fact you brush off people from the UN using data from doctors as AI to maintain a narrative in your head is quite disturbing.

You asked an AI, don't even try and deny it. The UN expert's estimation was 5,000 - your AI tried to tell us it was 20,000.

At least you're not trying to pretend a Saudi news network quoting fantasy figures form London was legit.

I didn't claim Mai Sato was an AI you dumbarse - when I went to the trouble of tracking down your sources, AI had fudged the numbers.

If you arent going to accept estimates from credible sources and even brush off the governments own admittance of their own mass murder (they have literally admitted it) then your views are no longer worth considering as you literally are rejecting the concept of empericial evidence. Stuck in a bubble that rejects all information thats not consistent with their current perception of reality.

You're boxing at shadows champion. I asked you where you got your figures, you gave AI slop, and now you've gone troppo out of embarrassment.

Next question for you - how many Americans do you think the police / ICE / ATF etc would kill if there was a foreign-sponsored widespread violent protest and attempted overthrow of the US government?

 

[Saint]

Oh lordy, you've jumped up on your high horse to deliver this one. How's the weather up there?



Any number of people killed by their own government is too many, of course.



tl;dr



I'd say this is closer to the correct number.



Why not just link to the article, instead of this amateur paraphrasing?

Here: https://www.theguardian.com/global-...ll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead



Spare me, please.



You asked an AI, don't even try and deny it. The UN expert's estimation was 5,000 - your AI tried to tell us it was 20,000.

At least you're not trying to pretend a Saudi news network quoting fantasy figures form London was legit.

I didn't claim Mai Sato was an AI you dumbarse - when I went to the trouble of tracking down your sources, AI had fudged the numbers.



You're boxing at shadows champion. I asked you where you got your figures, you gave AI slop, and now you've gone troppo out of embarrassment.

Next question for you - how many Americans do you think the police / ICE / ATF etc would kill if there was a foreign-sponsored widespread violent protest and attempted overthrow of the US government?

People like to pretend the protests were occurring in a vacuum, and not in the wake of US and Israeli strikes, threats, economic sanctions and open incitement to revolt.

If the US were put under this pressure, ICE would have slaughtered more than Iran did.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

People like to pretend the protests were occurring in a vacuum, and not in the wake of US and Israeli strikes, threats, economic sanctions and open incitement to revolt.

Of course, they've been agitating for this exact outcome for decades.

And then you have gullible fools in here giving the US/Israel axis the green light to ignore international law, slaughter civilians and destroy civilian infrastructure, all in an attempt to turn Iran into another failed state. Not for the good of the Iranians who they suddenly care so much about, but for their own global projects.

 

[steve strange]

Like all mass murders by government they are estimates as no one keeps official figures and the government is delibrately trying to hide it. But all the estimates ive read place it between 17000 and 36000 deaths over a 48 hour period starting on Jan 8th.

Here is two:

• UN special rapporteur, Mai Sato, noted on January 16, 2026, that the death toll could be as high as 20,000.
• Irans International editorial board estimated over 35600.

This doesnt include the 30-50 thousand people arrested and the judicial murders that began in February of some of these arrested people.

US Oil currently $85 per barrel. Was $64 a week ago.

 

[Seeds]

US Oil currently $85 per barrel. Was $64 a week ago.

It was 71 dollars before the conflict begun. Regardless, what is your point?

 

[Seeds]

Of course, they've been agitating for this exact outcome for decades.

And then you have gullible fools in here giving the US/Israel axis the green light to ignore international law, slaughter civilians and destroy civilian infrastructure, all in an attempt to turn Iran into another failed state. Not for the good of the Iranians who they suddenly care so much about, but for their own global projects.

Slaughtering your own citizens for protesting is also against international law.

International law is pointless if no one is going to enforce it.

 

[Seeds]

People like to pretend the protests were occurring in a vacuum, and not in the wake of US and Israeli strikes, threats, economic sanctions and open incitement to revolt.

If the US were put under this pressure, ICE would have slaughtered more than Iran did.

And does that make what Iran's regime did not horrific and worthy of intervention?

The reason why we despise maga is because we can see they will eventually lead down the path of iran if given full control. That's why we despise them. Im not sure why some of the posters in here despise them given they seem a bit ambivalent towards the Irans extremely religous dictatorship regime.

 

[steve strange]

Slaughtering your own citizens for protesting is also against international law.

Who slaughtered ? Police and emergency services in that death toll ?