Roast Irrelevant man has a say.

[Black_White]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04...lls-for-anzac-day-match-to-be-shared/11029448

 

[Mooresome]

Mick is turning into a flog ,needs to stfu.

 

[JB1975]

The main board has a thread trying to tell everyone that the Anzac Day game is little more than commercialised hype. People might not like Mick's suggestion that the game get shared around, but at least he is fully alive to the significance of the day and occasion of the game itself.

 

[Mooresome]

The main board has a thread trying to tell everyone that the Anzac Day game is little more than commercialised hype. People might not like Mick's suggestion that the game get shared around, but at least he is fully alive to the significance of the day and occasion of the game itself.

That's true but so is everyone else in Australia,or they should be.

 

[TradeDraft]

Piss Of MM

 

[Mooresome]

Piss Of MM

Love ya Dave

 

[EddiesBigBucks]

Yeah sorry Mick, not happening.

 

[magpies42]

What a piece of s**t

 

[The Royal Sampler]

The main board has a thread trying to tell everyone that the Anzac Day game is little more than commercialised hype.

I disagree on ANZAC Day, but ANZAC Round is an abomination of an idea and nauseatingly exploitative.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

I disagree on ANZAC Day, but ANZAC Round is an abomination of an idea and nauseatingly exploitative.

Next thing you’ll be telling me there is some rock band or whatnot doing a gig pre the game.

Nah the AFL would never do that.

Errr wait a minute...

 

[JB1975]

I disagree on ANZAC Day, but ANZAC Round is an abomination of an idea and nauseatingly exploitative.

I agree, the extended round does take it too far.

 

[Kappa]

Everyone get on board for North Melbourne V Gold Coast Anzac day blockbuster in 2020. Brilliant idea.

 

[CFC2010]

Just play Tarrant on Hawkins dude and leave the Anzacday game to the experts.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Everyone get on board for North Melbourne V Gold Coast Anzac day blockbuster in 2020. Brilliant idea.

I’m already planning my social activities around it.

Can’t wait.

 

[sr36]

The main board has a thread trying to tell everyone that the Anzac Day game is little more than commercialised hype. People might not like Mick's suggestion that the game get shared around, but at least he is fully alive to the significance of the day and occasion of the game itself.

I tend to agree that it is commercialised hype, but it's Collingwood's commercialised hype and we love it.

 

[Anzacday]

And look what year the pousti malaka started changing his tune
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-04-20/malthouse-breaks-ranks-on-anzac-day/2607116

 

[Markfs]

I dont think it's commercialised. But my grandfather didnt go to war in 1914 for truth, freedom and justice and the american way. Some bloke got shot in Armenia or the balkans or something and all the inbred royalties in europe decided to go to war over it... My grandfather went to war to do something different. To escape a mundane life... a lot of country boys did. Lots of glory for the famous generals. Death, lost limbs, chronic health problems was the usual outcome for the ordinary punter getting on the ships going overseas. Anzac day has been "reworked" to pump up nationalism.

 

[sr36]

Anzac day has been "reworked" to pump up nationalism.

Yep. When I was growing up it was a very different event with a very different message. It's turned from a day of remembrance to a day of glorification and re-written history.

 

[Kappa]

Yep. When I was growing up it was a very different event with a very different message. It's turned from a day of remembrance to a day of glorification and re-written history.

Governments and militaries need to glorify it to keep young people signing up to throw their lives away and risk serious physical and mental injuries for an average salary.

 

[sr36]

Governments and militaries need to glorify it to keep young people signing up to throw their lives away and risk serious physical and mental injuries for an average salary.

I personally think it was the Howard government playing dog whistle politics to appeal to racists and xenophobes.

 

[mwhop]

White washing history? In this country?

 

[Hazz]

#woke

 

[JB1975]

I personally think it was the Howard government playing dog whistle politics to appeal to racists and xenophobes.

I grew up before Anzac Day was considered such a big thing, when it was looked upon like Remembrance Day: an occasion to reflect on the tragedy of war. This is how I still think of it, and as I get older the sacrifice of so many young men seems even more tragic to me. But the 'revival' of Anzac Day and its politicisation began well before the Howard years (1996-2007), and the institution of the Anzac Day game (1995) before the Howard government is one indicator of this.

I've mentioned in another post an interview that Malcolm Fraser gave a few years ago, where he talked about how odd it would have seemed if he had gone to Anzac Cove on Anzac Day during his leadership, and yet Bob Hawke during his prime ministership did just that. Those Hawke-Keating years coincided with a whole range of 50-year anniversaries from the Second World War, and Keating in particular invested quite a bit of politics --and taxpayer money-- in the remembrance of Anzac. He hardly ignored WWI (e.g. tomb of the unknown soldier), but his own emphasis was on WWII and Australia's engagement with the Asian region during that war, which also suited his broader political agenda at the time. No Prime Minister before Keating had talked more about Australia's war past and its importance to the present, and initiatives like the tomb of the unknown soldier and the 'Australia Remembers' campaign underscored the message.

None of this denies that Anzac was also used by Howard, who drew upon it for his own political purposes, but my point is that the changing nature of Anzac Day long precedes him. Maybe a few hundred people used to attend the dawn service at the Shrine in the early 1980s, but they were attending in their thousands before Howard became PM in 1996, which suggests to me that Australia's relationship to its war history had been changing for quite a while.

I tend to agree that it is commercialised hype, but it's Collingwood's commercialised hype and we love it.

It's pretty hard to deny that the Anzac Day game is commercialised, but my own view is that the commercialisation of it doesn't diminish the occasion or render it meaningless. Cultural events can be exploited by commercial interests and yet remain culturally significant. For example, I'm one of those naive types who still thinks of football as something more than a profitable (for some) form of entertainment. I know people are making wads of cash from football, and the hype which accompanies their money-making rarely fails to nauseate me, and yet --in my worldview-- the Collingwood Football Club and the game itself manages to transcend this. The game remains 'more than a game'.

In a similar way, the promotional hype of Channel 7 shouldn't be allowed to define the significance of the Anzac Day game, and it doesn't define the importance and meaning of the occasion for the thousands of people who contribute to it. To put it another way, the significance of the Anzac Day game runs deeper than the hype which surrounds it.

Now it's time for coffee.

 

[Vicky Park]

I personally think it was the Howard government playing dog whistle politics to appeal to racists and xenophobes.

I personally think you are right.

 

[Vicky Park]

It's pretty hard to deny that the Anzac Day game is commercialised, but my own view is that the commercialisation of it doesn't diminish the occasion or render it meaningless. Cultural events can be exploited by commercial interests and yet remain culturally significant. For example, I'm one of those naive types who still thinks of football as something more than a profitable (for some) form of entertainment. I know people are making wads of cash from football, and the hype which accompanies their money-making rarely fails to nauseate me, and yet --in my worldview-- the Collingwood Football Club and the game itself manages to transcend this. The game remains 'more than a game'.

In a similar way, the promotional hype of Channel 7 shouldn't be allowed to define the significance of the Anzac Day game, and it doesn't define the importance and meaning of the occasion for the thousands of people who contribute to it. To put it another way, the significance of the Anzac Day game runs deeper than the hype which surrounds it.

Now it's time for coffee.

You make fair points too JB.

But I cant bring myself to join in the hype, so this is the first Pies MCG game of 2019 that I wont be attending.

Plus I tend to get into arguments with Essendon supporters, which as a collective, I cant abide.

P.s. Go Pies!