Opinion Is Ablett a traitor?

[Beth]

Cold Poach Plastic Metre Maid$ Board

 

[Partridge]

Just go out the door past those eight premiership cups and head north until you come to a picket fence made of wooden spoons and you will be home,thanks for dropping in.

Easy. He's entitled to his opinion, and he hasn't bagged Geelong. Pretty fair estimation of the two of them also.

 

[KardiniaPark]

The fact remains, its the Afl's fault he left not Abletts. Just like its not Scully's fault when he leaves. You just cant turn down $1mil a season I dont care who you are (especially when you are scully and will never be fit to shine a player like Ablett's boots). If these new teams came in a year after Ablett retired he would have played his whole career with the cats no doubt. Its just bad timing. We can only hope GWS leaves us alone.

 

[The rabbi]

I hate you Gary. You Judas. Look what you have done to _ME_
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[Hoffy95]

Who's this Ablett chap people keep raving on about?

 

[The rabbi]

Who's this Ablett chap people keep raving on about?

He is a bloke that some rather deluded people thought would never leaver the club for greener pastures.

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[candiehappy]

Re: Is G. Ablett a Traitor

and who is jack?

a young bloke at Melbourne that can't get a kick

 

[Sttew]

Its a bit silly asking a die-hard Geelong supporter whether Ablett leaving was traitorous. Of course it was. But I am biased. I am loyal to the Cats and could never support any other club. I expect loyalty from the players in return.

The reality is, as Tony Abott recently said, "Shit happens". Dollars are louder than loyalty.

I'll be very happy when Geelong snares a superstar recruit from another club - if that ever happens - and you won't hear me calling that player a traitor.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

I'm not sure "traitor" is the right word to use, because it implies that Ablett disseminated information to, say, Collingwood before leaving that resulted in Geelong losing the prelim. Of course this isn't true, they just gave the scoreboard a walloping sufficient to make the result beyond doubt very early.
I think Ablett is more guilty of subterfuge and deceit. Anyone remember that article early last year where Ablett was quoted as being "90% likely" to stay at Geelong? I wish I could find it online.

 

[Hoffy95]

I'm not sure "traitor" is the right word to use, because it implies that Ablett disseminated information to, say, Collingwood before leaving that resulted in Geelong losing the prelim. Of course this isn't true, they just gave the scoreboard a walloping sufficient to make the result beyond doubt very early.
I think Ablett is more guilty of subterfuge and deceit. Anyone remember that article early last year where Ablett was quoted as being "90% likely" to stay at Geelong? I wish I could find it online.

Kinda like Judd saying he couldn't see himself leaving Claremont (or wherever it was he was living).

Things change I guess even though he and Ablett may have genuinely meant that at the time.

Gazz is a traitor of sorts. I put anyone in that bracket who leaves the team they are at for money or to chase a flag. That said, I totally understand why he did it and don't blame him. The price of this decision is that he gets ridiculed to some degree and deservingly so.

 

[AM]

The discussion about Ablett is becoming circular.

As has been said ad infinitum, we might disagree with his decision but lots of us can understand why he put cash over loyalty if his priorities are that way – as they clearly are. However, the duplicitous way he extricated himself from the club was disrespectful to the club and to his team mates.

He’ll earn every cent he’s paid as the only marquee player being paid a fortune. Without superstars all around him he’ll be the singular target every week. A few ordinary games early and the press will be all over him.

However, time to move on as the topic has been done to death. Can’t wait for next Sunday.

 

[Gaz_Brownlow]

The discussion about Ablett is becoming circular.

As has been said ad infinitum, we might disagree with his decision but lots of us can understand why he put cash over loyalty if his priorities are that way – as they clearly are. However, the duplicitous way he extricated himself from the club was disrespectful to the club and to his team mates.

He’ll earn every cent he’s paid as the only marquee player being paid a fortune. Without superstars all around him he’ll be the singular target every week. A few ordinary games early and the press will be all over him.

However, time to move on as the topic has been done to death. Can’t wait for next Sunday.

I have had the distinct pleasure of enjoying 2 generations of Gary Ablett at the Geelong Football Club and without any shadow of doubt can say that i have immensely enjoyed every moment of it.

I would strongly urge any Geelong supporter to not tread down the traitor path and instead enjoy the Abletts for what they were....phenomenal football players who contributed to the best of times of our great club. Gary Jnr is no traitor - he will always love the GFC and i have no doubts that he will one day end up back at the club in some capacity. He is a local boy with strong ties ..... i have no doubt at all that he will one day contribute to our club.

As such, we should not rob ourselves of the good times, it was awesome and delivered everything in spades that we could have possibly hoped for. That will always be part of our great history and that is definitely something to be celebrated. It is only a game, and Gary for whatever reason is entitled to make his own decisions and i for one will still look forward to watching him play and rise to the new challenge of the Gold Coast Footy club.

What i do know is that we are in a brilliant position as a club right now. Ablett has been a large part of that - and even his move to the gold coast will act to sure up our playing reserves for the future.

Who knows...maybe we will even see a 31 year old Gaz playing FF back at the club in 2017....its not like that hasn't been done before!

 

[David the Cat]

Its a bit silly asking a die-hard Geelong supporter whether Ablett leaving was traitorous. Of course it was. But I am biased. I am loyal to the Cats and could never support any other club. I expect loyalty from the players in return.

The reality is, as Tony Abott recently said, "Shit happens". Dollars are louder than loyalty.

I'll be very happy when Geelong snares a superstar recruit from another club - if that ever happens - and you won't hear me calling that player a traitor.

Like Brad Ottens? Havent heard too many Cat fans calling Otto a traitor...

Some double standards around here????

 

[Vdubs]

I have had the distinct pleasure of enjoying 2 generations of Gary Ablett at the Geelong Football Club and without any shadow of doubt can say that i have immensely enjoyed every moment of it.

I would strongly urge any Geelong supporter to not tread down the traitor path and instead enjoy the Abletts for what they were....phenomenal football players who contributed to the best of times of our great club. Gary Jnr is no traitor - he will always love the GFC and i have no doubts that he will one day end up back at the club in some capacity. He is a local boy with strong ties ..... i have no doubt at all that he will one day contribute to our club.

As such, we should not rob ourselves of the good times, it was awesome and delivered everything in spades that we could have possibly hoped for. That will always be part of our great history and that is definitely something to be celebrated. It is only a game, and Gary for whatever reason is entitled to make his own decisions and i for one will still look forward to watching him play and rise to the new challenge of the Gold Coast Footy club.

What i do know is that we are in a brilliant position as a club right now. Ablett has been a large part of that - and even his move to the gold coast will act to sure up our playing reserves for the future.

Who knows...maybe we will even see a 31 year old Gaz playing FF back at the club in 2017....its not like that hasn't been done before!

Agree with all of that. Loyalty is ONLY for supporters. We are the ones bleeding, even his EX teammates have forgiven and condoned what he did and are still his mates, hence the need for that bridge.
Ablett was totally loyal to us every time he played and those are awesome memories

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

Kinda like Judd saying he couldn't see himself leaving Claremont (or wherever it was he was living).

Things change I guess even though he and Ablett may have genuinely meant that at the time.

Gazz is a traitor of sorts. I put anyone in that bracket who leaves the team they are at for money or to chase a flag. That said, I totally understand why he did it and don't blame him. The price of this decision is that he gets ridiculed to some degree and deservingly so.

Same same. Judd was dishonest with WCE since he allowed all Vic clubs to court him with the best deal to get him back here. Except he at least made sure WCE got the #3 pick in the deal.

 

[AM]

Agree with all of that. Loyalty is ONLY for supporters. We are the ones bleeding, even
his EX teammates have forgiven and condoned what he did and are still his mates, hence the need for that bridge.

I think that's what's called gilding the lily. To put it mildly.

All we know on that front is that the admin certainly didn't.

Ablett was totally loyal to us every time he played and those are awesome memories

He was but that misses the point entirely.

Let's face it. Nobody is about to change their opinion about the way he handled his departure. Let's move on.

 

[Gaz_Brownlow]

I think that's what's called gilding the lily. To put it mildly.

All we know on that front is that the admin certainly didn't.



He was but that misses the point entirely.

Let's face it. Nobody is about to change their opinion about the way he handled his departure. Let's move on.

Moving on is exactly the point....however, i would strongly urge everyone to remember all the good the name Gary Ablett has given the GFC. Sure the departure wasn't handled ideally, but in no way does that detract from the services we got from the Ablett name.

Personally i have enjoyed over 20 stunning seasons supporting that name......couldn't imagine a more enthralling journey.

 

[you pick one]

Moving on is exactly the point....however, i would strongly urge everyone to remember all the good the name Gary Ablett has given the GFC. Sure the departure wasn't handled ideally, but in no way does that detract from the services we got from the Ablett name.

Personally i have enjoyed over 20 stunning seasons supporting that name......couldn't imagine a more enthralling journey.

Thumbs up to that,I find it quite bizarre the venom directed to the Abletts on this board, every one to there own opinion I guess.

 

[STC]

Yes, but it's time to give it a rest.

 

[dustyy]

Not at all. Doing what 99% of people do every day of their lives. Just trying to get a better deal for themselves. No problem at all with me. He owes nothing to us. He has given his all . I wish him all the best.

 

[_Me_]

Yes, but it's time to give it a rest.

yeah
but given judas raised it

why not join in

 

[Roadie]

Is this going to go on all year?

 

[goyoucatters]

Only if people keep dignifying the indignation of the OP with a response...

Keep the faith,
S.

 

[Vdubs]

I think that's what's called gilding the lily. To put it mildly.

All we know on that front is that the admin certainly didn't.



He was but that misses the point entirely.

Let's face it. Nobody is about to change their opinion about the way he handled his departure. Let's move on.

agree about moving on, but those teammates that we've heard interviewed, headed by Harley, have all said it was an impossible deal to walk away from, they would have done it, good luck to him = condoning.

Anyway, who really knows until they can walk in his shoes, and none of us will ever be there, and it is still a very courageous decision, albeit unpalatable for most of us. The Nathan factor, as said before, is not to be underestimated.

As far as handling departures, how could he have done it better? None of the others did it differently. Just that he is Gary Ablett.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

I think Hawthorn supporters voiced similar disdain for Brown's machinations through the year, although there is some chicken/egg debate: did Brown leave because Clarkson offered him for trade, or did Clarkson offer him for trade because Brown was already off to GC? It was dirty through to the core, and the players were complicit in the process. There's nothing wrong with a player leaving, but a player lying about their intentions all year and taking the fans for money in the process (garyablett.com) was a low blow. Self serving behaviour at it's worst, and in hindsight it was poetic justice that Ablett didn't get the Brownlow to add to his collection of singular, personal accolades.