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Opinion Is Ablett a traitor?
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IMO, I guess footy is a business, like Metallica is a business. People by Metallica's product and are entitled to complain if they don't like it. Same with any business.
What I think is wrong is blokes like Enright, Selwood, Scarlett, Bartel, Johnson and Chapman could have gone elsewhere for more coin, but chose to stay at Geelong for sustained success. One bloke has left for succe$$
What I think is wrong is blokes like Enright, Selwood, Scarlett, Bartel, Johnson and Chapman could have gone elsewhere for more coin, but chose to stay at Geelong for sustained success. One bloke has left for succe$$
Cmon, I seem to recall various players (ling & sj) saying they'd pack their bags if they got he same offer. He was a major part of two flags, given I thought we'd never win one in my lifetime I'm a fan. He's not perfect, nobody is. You"ll die a lot happier if you remember the good times...
The thing you're not taking into account is disclosure. Ling & Johnson may or may not have acted differently in Ablett's shoes, but Ablett was exposed as the duplicitous self-serving schemer that he is. For this reason the ifs, buts and maybes can't be taken into account because they're moot.
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Yes probably. They were good times but unfortunately it's hard to come back from this. It's one thing to forgive but one often doesn't forget. The sad thing is that this is our last memory of him so all the great times, to many, are tarnished to a fair extent. I've pretty much moved on now but can still remember the gut wrenching feeling I had when I found out he was off. Probably the worst thing for me was that my perception of the cats being a special club with integral players was off the mark
Sorry,cant bear to even look at him,I cant forgive him for the carry on last year,to me the jumper is something you do not give away,especially a geelong jumper. I believe he will regret what he has done,but then he is pretty selfish,although I don"t personally know him.
We have favourites in our family,my daughter loved Ablett,and had a garbage bag full of t-shirts,badges and posters of him and said to me " what do I do with all this now mum?","send it to him,and ask for a refund",I said. Seriously not funny as we spend a lot of money on this club.Anyway, to me Jimmy Bartel is the one,has that something about him,born to play football and a humble champion of the game.Ablett,on the other hand is a traitor,no doubt about it,with all the talk now about players going to gws,I hope bartel stays,and I would wish for him another awesome year for him like he had in '07.
We have favourites in our family,my daughter loved Ablett,and had a garbage bag full of t-shirts,badges and posters of him and said to me " what do I do with all this now mum?","send it to him,and ask for a refund",I said. Seriously not funny as we spend a lot of money on this club.Anyway, to me Jimmy Bartel is the one,has that something about him,born to play football and a humble champion of the game.Ablett,on the other hand is a traitor,no doubt about it,with all the talk now about players going to gws,I hope bartel stays,and I would wish for him another awesome year for him like he had in '07.
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wish the hold was a tad tighter
PS He doesn't like attention much. Very shy. Try hard A lister
wish the hold was a tad tighter
PS He doesn't like attention much. Very shy. Try hard A lister
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to keep simple yes he is a traitor.
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Seriously who is in charge of PR at GC that matches up a a player with a history of domestic voilence for a UFC promotion.
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In a way I'm happy he is gone. Now 2011 the Cats can prove that they are more then just a one man show. Now they need to prove that Ablett needed Geelong more then the other way around.
So I say good luck and I hope you loose to a much better Cats in the GF!!
So I say good luck and I hope you loose to a much better Cats in the GF!!
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just remember he was one of the rare few that stood up when nobody else wanted to against Collingwood in the prelim final last year.
Even though he left you for more money or whatever, that last match he played for you guys had to be seen to be believed, he was incredible and just never stopped trying right up until the final siren. I was watching him do his magic and I just couldn't believe how good he was in that match against Collingwood.
just remember he was one of the rare few that stood up when nobody else wanted to against Collingwood in the prelim final last year.
Even though he left you for more money or whatever, that last match he played for you guys had to be seen to be believed, he was incredible and just never stopped trying right up until the final siren. I was watching him do his magic and I just couldn't believe how good he was in that match against Collingwood.
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So true earsta and a good reason why our team will never come close to the heights reached with Ablett. Champion players not only perform in the worst/toughest situations but lift the whole club. Ablett was best on ground in the '08 Grand Final(despite Hodge winning it) and as you said, was extraordinary in our Prelim loss. Never put his head down in the face of defeat, a true champion individual and player. Rare.
He gave everything he had to the club with great result... if fans want to fire shots, there are plenty of currently listed players who consistently put in shoddy efforts week in week out. Mark Thompson is a grade 'A' douche bag off the field, Ablett couldn't stand him, which was a big part of him leaving... lets all move on.
How did he carry on last year? Bomber Thompson was a arrogant prick towards some of the Cats players...I was a massive fan of Gaz Snr and could not believe he had a son who did what he did for Geelong Football Club for 9 YEARS.. loved every bit of it and understand why he moved to Gold Coast.. And be careful of your love for Bartel.. Wouldn't be surprised it he went to Sydney for money..Its a fact of life.. Football has turned into a business and players are realizing this fact. So many examples of clubs letting players go and be assholes.. just saying.
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If you where being offered twice as much as you where at your current club, had the opportunity to lead a new side into the competition and the coach at your current club didnt talk to you for 80% of the year, what would you do?
maybe I'd be honest with club and fans about my intentions from the outset, instead of playing stupid little deflection games through my manager, and not proceed to wring as much money out of Geelong fans as possible despite knowing that I was goneski.
But that's me to a fault, I guess.
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well if gazz missed the season or even half the season with his injury l would feel slightly happy.
I’m breaking my self imposed ‘no further comment’ on the great defector. However, there was comment in the column by Craig Hutchison in the Hun today illustrating the defectors customary selfish behaviour that couldn’t go unremarked upon.
Hutchison wrote:
Tried to find a link but the full piece seems to be only in the print edition.
Hutchison wrote:
One fan tweeted:
Seems old habits die hard.
Tried to find a link but the full piece seems to be only in the print edition.
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wasnt dustin martin offered over triple what he was earning on his rookie contract to join?
wasnt roo offered a lucrative contract to head back home and lead the new team?
and thompson not talking to him. which, came first, the chicken or the egg.
maximus steel
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People can think what they want, but based on what the club, Ablett, his managment and his friends have said he didnt make up his mind until the end of the season. Its not his fault the media and his coach kept hounding him about it. If anything the conclusion i reached, based on my previous post, it showed he had some loyalty that he was even torn about the decision in the first place.
And about the "chicken or the egg" statement, so you think if we'd found out Thompson was talking to Essendon it would be alright for the playing list to not talk to there coach for the last 20 weeks of the year?
Finally a great post from you. The man is a star footballer.
he approached gold coast, not the other way around, mckenna admitted that. all the players rumoured to have signed with gold coast in 2009 ended up signing with them. the only decision ablett was toying with was how to cope with the announcement.
i think they were both childish and both accountable for their behaviours. neither distinguished themselves honourably.
Thompson made a mess of his departure too, and no doubt lost a lot of respect from all concerned by his actions. I don't really care about that though, since I've always been pretty ambivalent about Thompson as Geelong's coach, and I don't think his leaving is a bad thing at all. He will not be missed. Ablett on the other hand, his on-field presence WILL be missed, his name being synonymous with a team OTHER than Geelong will be missed, and the interest and aura he gave the club will be missed.
That's why the way he went about leaving leaves such a rotten taste, not because he chose to leave - I've said several times that he can be where he wants - but because he has been nothing but dishonest about his intentions and your belief in his PR machine that he genuinely didn't know he was leaving until the last minute beggars belief. GC HAD to know he was onboard from the outset, otherwise their financial structuring for player payments and ability to chase and (not) contract the other tier-1 players of the competition would have been completely thrown into disarray. GC were smug as shit about player signings all season, because they (and the AFL) knew exactly who was coming, and when to announce their acquisitions. We can deduce this because of the leaked (and mysteriously retracted) exclusive news from Fox Sports, who were obviously running to a schedule given to them by the AFL that was dropped into the toilet by the drawn Grand Final last year. They then proceeded to announce it anyway on the 29th, since the "cat was out of the bag". It would seem that the only people (other than those who are in denial about the whole mess) that didn't know Ablett was leaving was Geelong itself, although given Frank's ability to play the media to his own tune he may have just ordered everyone to play dumb too.
Then you get Demetriou playing the Sgt. Schultz role to a tee with the "IIII KNOWWW NUSSSINK (wink wink)" routine in relation to Ablett's salary, by misleading everyone about the nature of his contract. The media en masse reported that he denied knowledge of the size of Ablett's contract, when in reality he commented on the way Ablett was being paid, when he refuted the idea that Ablett was being paid his 10 mil upfront, not that he was being paid 10 mil.
If there was someone actually governing the AFL, it would be exposed as a huge grubby puppetmaster organisation that is systematically putting the game second and the money first. Ablett's departure is an example of it, and Ablett's actions scream of complicity.
Some people just don’t want to spoil a good story with the facts D.F
As you suggest, the facts are that most top liners aren’t lured away from their teams by money. They stick.
Franklin was offered a similar deal to Ablett, but stuck. Brown was offered a truck load and the Collingwood town hall, but stuck. Pavlich has been offered truck loads to return to Adelaide, but stuck. Riewoldt has had huge sums waved under his nose, but stuck. Didak, Higgins, Black, Cloke, Richardson, Harvey and countless others could have earned larger sums elsewhere but stuck. Not to mention second tier players like Tippett who not only could have tripled his income, he had the added incentive of returning home, but stuck.
The fact is that if clubs look after their stars and recompense them reasonably most opt for loyalty and playing with their mates over bigger pay packets elsewhere
All that said, most of us here are less fussed about Ablett taking the gold than we are about the duplicitous way he did it.
And the quality of his playing ability has squat to do with this thread. We all know he’s a superstar.
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