Is being unmarried and childless becoming "the norm" in society?
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Yes, exactly as Aldous Huxley explained would happen in Brave New World.
But we have plenty of free pr0n and other stimulation to keep us entertained.
Not to mention soma by way of legalised weed, which is quickly becoming a thing (and replacing alco-soma).
Is this all bad or good? Depends on your perspective. I like to look on the bright side of things.
But we have plenty of free pr0n and other stimulation to keep us entertained.
Not to mention soma by way of legalised weed, which is quickly becoming a thing (and replacing alco-soma).
Is this all bad or good? Depends on your perspective. I like to look on the bright side of things.
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Unmarried in a technical sense, sure.
Childless, not so much.
Childless, not so much.
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I despise children so I hope to have no children in my future.
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Which is exactly why it soon won't be the norm. People can't afford divorce.
I can afford it but that's probably because I'm single.
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Yeah, divorce usually comes as a package deal with paying child support and losing your house.
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Stand back everybody. Here is the gay community to show you heteros how love and marriage is done properly.
Married for 34 years, now separated, 2 kids but they are currently self sufficient so technically/financially I'm single and childless.
Although I do have 3 youngish grandchildren.
Although I do have 3 youngish grandchildren.
I see more and more young people getting married in their early to mid 20s and having kids. It's like a full 360 from the 1980s.
44. Divorced after 11 years married and 15 years together. Two kids under 12.
Pay child support.
Kept the house but had to pay her out so effectively have bought my house twice.
It’s great having kids no doubt.
Marriage meh.
But under the law de facto or marriage is seen the same so save your dollars and dont get married. Wedding industry is a scam. It will go the way of the video shop over next 20 years
Pay child support.
Kept the house but had to pay her out so effectively have bought my house twice.
It’s great having kids no doubt.
Marriage meh.
But under the law de facto or marriage is seen the same so save your dollars and dont get married. Wedding industry is a scam. It will go the way of the video shop over next 20 years
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Want a partner but not marriage or kids.
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Howard and Rudd governments updated most of this. People are in for a shock if they shacked up with someone for years "but I never married the bitch so suuuuucked in, woman!".
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Not having kids isn’t a cost issue.
It’s driven by women becoming educated and having options.
Who would chose to have kids early and give up on pursuing a career, travel, an outgoing lifestyle and testing one’s self as to what they can achieve?
There is no right or wrong answer
It’s driven by women becoming educated and having options.
Who would chose to have kids early and give up on pursuing a career, travel, an outgoing lifestyle and testing one’s self as to what they can achieve?
There is no right or wrong answer
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That's part of what is driving it. Women's nature is to seek men of equal or higher economic status to themselves (when looking for a long term partner). Back in the day when women weren't in the paid workforce, all of a woman's potential suitors were of higher economic status than her, provided they had a job. Women had essentially no economic status at all, so her dating options were limitless. In this day and age, there are more female college/uni graduates than male, women are being promoted faster than men, government and corporations have female quotas, so women are earning as much or more money than men. As a woman's education and income level gets higher, her pool of potential mates gets smaller (because there are more men beneath her financially). That makes finding a partner a more tricky prospect for women than it was in the past.
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And in 10-20 years they will be the ones keeping the divorce industry alive.
That’s an amazingly prophetic book, really need to re read it.
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With the exception of gay marriage being legalised, marriage hasn't caught up to modern times. 'Gay divorce' should go some way to pushing family law towards the path of equality. I know one single dad with custody of a child. One. Growing up I knew none, other than families where the mother had passed away. The law might not favour one sex over the other, but everyone knows the status quo.
As far as divorce (and de facto break ups) where kids aren't involved, it's still pretty archaic. A friend of mine had parents divorce when all the kids had grown up and left home. His mum stayed home when the kids were growing up and didn't earn a wage as a result. When the divorce came they split assets and she ended up with the house. I don't know the full details but that's not wildly unfair on face value. Other friends of mine divorced in their early 30s after maybe 7-8 years together. No kids and the whole time they were together both worked full time. There is zero justification for either to get more out of the divorce than what they brought in and half what they accumulated together. But there is still this ridiculous notion that everything is up for grabs.
I don't think humans are evolving away from wanting companionship and family but marriage can be a pretty s**t deal. Personally I'd rather be married than be in the process of becoming married (i.e. anything wedding related) but that's a different topic altogether. $50k for a few hours entertaining people? Pass.
As far as divorce (and de facto break ups) where kids aren't involved, it's still pretty archaic. A friend of mine had parents divorce when all the kids had grown up and left home. His mum stayed home when the kids were growing up and didn't earn a wage as a result. When the divorce came they split assets and she ended up with the house. I don't know the full details but that's not wildly unfair on face value. Other friends of mine divorced in their early 30s after maybe 7-8 years together. No kids and the whole time they were together both worked full time. There is zero justification for either to get more out of the divorce than what they brought in and half what they accumulated together. But there is still this ridiculous notion that everything is up for grabs.
I don't think humans are evolving away from wanting companionship and family but marriage can be a pretty s**t deal. Personally I'd rather be married than be in the process of becoming married (i.e. anything wedding related) but that's a different topic altogether. $50k for a few hours entertaining people? Pass.
So basically you're just after a sperm receptacle?
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In the past "Is he taller than me, does he provide security"
Now.............the list is endless until they hit their late 30s
Personally I prefer the modern woman. My tip for women is to pursue men 5-10 years older than them, as they are more likely to tick the boxes than guys still carving out their careers.
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