Is Collingwoods recruiting really bad.

[goalpie]

Is Collingwoods recruiting any worse than other teams. As more and more draft picks seem to be flopping, maby this is a result of Collingwood not having the right coaches to get young players to the next level.

Other teams dont seem to have this problem and Collingwood is either cursed or doing something wrong.

 

[grayza]

its very hit and miss...every team has skeletons in the closet, we are the same

Burns at 90, Johnson and Rowe 60 odd...they were astute picks

 

[hotpie]

Only two clubs have won flags in the past four years, and only four clubs have competed in Grand finals.

There's a lot of teams in the same boat in terms of poor recruiting. Its all relative.

We''ve done ok without doing anything particuarly outstanding. 2002 was our worst recent year at the draft table, 2003 is also looking shonky. 2004 is looking good, albeit with the good form of some of the draftees being for Willy Reserves.

As far as trading, we've done ok. Woey has been servicable, and Morrison and Carecella good this year. Williams for Adkins was a debacle. Other trading mistakes were so long ago its not important any more.

 

[goalpie]

All I was wondering if any of Collingwoods coaches have the ability to guide and develop young players. Wen you had the u19's competition, you had a coach wo was able to concentrate on that and the club used to have a great wealth of young players.

 

[hotpie]

Brad Gotch goes ok.

 

[pieman1]

Its no better or worse than a dozen other clubs. IFfyou want to see a shocking recruiting record take a look at the Bombers. Featuring gems like Bolton(4th overall) Hefernan, McAlister, Shane Harvey, Ted Richards to name just a few. Can't wait for Rohan Connolly's story on the Bomber stuffups over the last seven years. Our father sons are also miles better than Jobe Watson.

 

[Murray]

I think our recruiting is worse than other clubs in one sense it is too focused on the way off future.

We recruit guys that rarely play in their first year at the club.
I can only think of 4 under MM
Lokan
Rowe
Lonie
Fraser.
There maybe one other (Didak but not sure).

We tend to go for 'project' players such as
Morrison
Hall
Richards
The Shaws
Rusling
Walker etc

Most other clubs recruit players that are able to play AFL in their first year.
Even clubs that have selections after us get players that are able to play good footy in year 1.

 

[hotpie]

I
We tend to go for 'project' players such as
Morrison
Hall
Richards
The Shaws
Rusling
Walker etc

Most other clubs recruit players that are able to play AFL in their first year.
Even clubs that have selections after us get players that are able to play good footy in year 1.

Thats not a bad thing, but the project has to pay off. Fanning's another project player. Only Walker and perhaps Richards and R SHaw (finally) look the goods at this early stage. Players like Hall and Morrison (and dare i say it, Davidson) are huge risks which cost the club big time in terms of lack of depth if they dont develop according to projections. With project players, by definition there is a lot more hit and miss. And we've been missing, not hitting.

Excited about Rusling though.

 

[Murray]

Excited about Rusling though.

So what have you seen in Rusling that excites you?

Sure he is braining them in the Willi seconds but that doesn't excite me as much as it would if he was doing that in the Willi 1's.
To me he is just another one of the athletes we have as project players.

I want to believe

 

[hotpie]

So what have you seen in Rusling that excites you?

I want to believe

You just answered your own question. Blind faith. Plus the fact he's kicking goals.

 

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

It's disgraceful. We should be putting every resource into our recruiting department.

Since 1993...

AFL DRAFT 1993 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
15 - Barry Mitchell (Sydney)
31 - Brett James (Norwood)
45 - Kent Butcher (Geelong)
59 - Jason Williams (Williamstown)
68 - Andrew Tranquilli (Marcellin)
75 - Terry Board (Brisbane)
MID-SEASON
12 - Terry Keays (Frankston)
24 - Kane Batzloff (Chelsea)
NATIONAL DRAFT
34 - Stephen Patterson (Norwood) (Draft choice 34 traded by Adelaide for Brett Chalmers)
35 - Aaron James (Western) (Draft choice 35 traded by Carlton for Barry Mitchell)
39 - Jason Wild (Collingullie) (Draft choice 39 traded by Brisbane for Craig Starcevich, Troy Lehmann)
53 - Justin Mallon (Northern) (Draft choice 53 traded by Melbourne for Paul Ridley)
66 - Andrew Schauble (Xavier College)
TRADES
- Nathan Buckley (Brisbane) traded by Brisbane for draft selection 12 (Chris Scott)
- Brenton Sanderson (Adelaide) traded by Adelaide for draft selection 44 (Eugene Warrior)
- Brad Plain (Essendon) traded by Essendon for draft selection 29 (Scott Mollard)

AFL DRAFT 1994 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
13 - Jon Ballantyne (Footscray)
28 - Trent Hotton (Preston)
34 - Stephen Ryan (Richmond)
37 - Justin Staritski (North Melbourne)
NATIONAL DRAFT
9 - Ben Wilson (Norwood) (Draft choice 9 traded by Adelaide for Jason McCartney)
30 - Chad Liddell (Southern)
47 - Robert Ahmat (Darwin) (Draft choice 47 traded by Geelong for Brenton Sanderson)
53 - Mark Orchard (Ballarat) (Draft choice 53 traded by Adelaide for Jason McCartney)
61 - Stephen Zavalas (Western)
64 - Robert Powell (Northern)
National Pre-Draft Supplementary Chris Curran Collingwood Reserves
TRADES
- Lee Walker West Coast traded by West Coast Eagles for draft selection 12 (Shane Sikora)

AFL DRAFT 1995 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
10 - Dermott Brereton (Sydney)
24 - Nick Hider (Camperdown)
34 - Ryan Aitken (Southern)
NATIONAL DRAFT
10 - Simon Prestigiacomo Northern
40 - Luke Godden Northern
64 - Matthew Carr East Fremantle
71 - Jason Bevan South Adelaide
74 - Mark Bradley Gippsland
76 - Ben Kemp Norwood
77 - Steven Pitt Norwood
TRADES
- Scott Crow (Hawthorn) traded by Hawthorn for draft selection 54 (Adam Ansell)
- Matthew Francis (Richmond) traded by Richmond for Robert Powell
- Adrian McAdam (North Melbourne) traded by North Melbourne for Bradley Plain
- Alex McDonald (Hawthorn) traded by Hawthorn for draft selection 54 (Adam Ansell)
- Robert Pyman (North Melbourne) traded by North Melbourne for draft selection 26 (Chris Groom)

AFL DRAFT 1996 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
9 - Mark Pitura (Richmond)
NATIONAL DRAFT
19 - Brent Tuckey (Ballarat U18) (Draft choice 19 traded by Carlton for Mick McGuane)
48 - Marty Warry (Fitzroy)
65 - Brad Cassidy (Fitzroy) (Draft choice 65 traded by Carlton for Mick McGuane)
77 - Marcus Barham (Calder U18)
84 - Josh Mahoney (Williamstown)
87 - Brad Fuller (NSW-ACT U18)
89 - Dwayne Griffin (Swan Districts WAFL)
90 - Leigh Singline (South Launceston)
TRADES
- Anthony Rocca Sydney traded by Sydney for Ben Wilson/Mark Orchard, draft selection 14 (Brett O'Farrell), draft selection 33 (Will Sangster)
- John Barnett (North Melbourne) traded by North Melbourne for draft selection 70 (Adam Hay)
- Richard Osborne (Footscray) traded by Footscray for draft selection 61 (Stephen Powell)
- Jonathan Ross (Adelaide) traded by Adelaide for Brett James

AFL DRAFT 1997 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
4 - Jason Taylor (Hawthorn)
14 - Robert Schaefer (Central District SANFL)
19 - Michael R. Gardiner (Subiaco WAFL)
NATIONAL DRAFT
8 - Chris Tarrant (Bendigo U18)
24 - James Wasley (Norwood SANFL)
56 - Ben Kinnear (Central District SANFL)
81 - Troy Kirwen (Preston U18)
84 - Frank Raso (Preston U18)
86 - Scott Whiston (Central District SANFL)
- Malcolm Michael (Morningside Qld) Rookie Elevated
- Andrew Pugsley (Scoresby) Rookie Elevated
TRADES
- Clinton King (Sydney) traded by Sydney for Robert Ahmat, draft selection 40 (Fred Campbell)
- Brad Smith (Richmond) traded by Richmond for Aaron James, draft selection 71 (Andrew Kellaway)
- Shannon Gibson (Hawthorn) traded by Hawthorn for Paul Sharkey
- Stuart Mangin (Sydney) traded by Sydney for Robert Ahmat, draft selection 40 (Fred Campbell)
- Jamie Tape (Richmond) traded by Richmond for Aaron James, draft selection 71 (Andrew Kellaway)

AFL DRAFT 1998 – COLLINGWOOD
NATIONAL DRAFT
19 - Nick Davis (NSW-ACT U18)
35 - Brad Oborne (Preston U18)
41 - Craig Jacotine (Dandenong U18) (Draft choice 41 traded by Essendon for draft selection 12 - Adam Ramanauskas)
44 - Heath Scotland (Western U18) (Draft choice 44 traded by Sydney for draft selection 3 - Nic Fosdike)
50 - Damien Adkins (Gippsland U18)
65 - Lee Walker (Collingwood)
76 - Rupert Betheras (Collingwood Reserves)
- Tarkyn Lockyer (East Fremantle WAFL) Rookie Elevated
TRADES
- Tyson Lane (Western Bulldogs) traded by Western Bulldogs for Josh Mahoney
- Paul Licuria (Sydney) traded by Sydney for draft selection 3 (Nic Fosdike)
- Ricky Olarenshaw (Essendon) traded by Essendon for draft selection 12 (Adam Ramanauskas)
- Mark Orchard (Sydney) traded by Sydney for draft selection 3 (Nic Fosdike)

AFL DRAFT 1999 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
3 - Glenn Freeborn (Kangaroos)
13 Cameron Venables (Claremont)
NATIONAL DRAFT
1 - Josh Fraser (Murray)
7 - Danny Roach (Tasmania) (Draft choice 7 traded by Richmond for Clinton King, draft selection 3 - Aaron Fiora)
18 - Rhyce Shaw (Preston)
34 - Leon Davis (Perth WAFL) (Draft choice 34 traded by Sydney for Andrew Schauble)
62 - Ben Johnson (Preston U18)
75 - Dale Baynes (East Fremantle WAFL)
82 - Nick Stone (Prahran U18)
88 - Michael W. Clark (Fremantle)
TRADES
- Steven McKee (Richmond) traded by Richmond for Clinton King, draft selection 3 (Aaron Fiora)
- Andrew Ukovic (Essendon) traded by Essendon for Jonathan Robran, draft selection 40 (David Hille)
- Mark Kinnear (Sydney) traded by Sydney for Andrew Schauble

AFL DRAFT 2000 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
1 - Shane O'Bree (Brisbane)
10 - Simon Hawking (Sydney)
NATIONAL DRAFT
3 - Alan Didak (Port Adelaide SANFL)
19 - Jason Cloke (Eastern U18)
34 - Ryan Lonie (Dandenong U18)
37 - Guy Richards (Eastern U18) (Draft choice 37 traded by Kangaroos for Ricky Olarenshaw and draft selection 8 - Daniel Motlop)
49 - Shane Wakelin (St Kilda)
65 - PASS
TRADES
- James Clement (Fremantle) traded by Fremantle for draft selection 39 (Adam McPhee)
- Brodie Holland (Fremantle) traded by Fremantle for draft selection 39 (Adam McPhee)
- Jarrod Molloy (Brisbane) traded by Brisbane for Malcolm Michael, draft selection 22 (Richard Hadley)
- Carl Steinfort (Geelong) traded by Geelong for draft selection 44 (Joshua Hunt)

AFL DRAFT 2001 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
2 - Chad Rintoul (West Coast)
NATIONAL DRAFT
11 - Richard Cole (Eastern Ranges)
27 - Tom Davidson (Geelong Falcons)
43 - Mark McGough (Murray Bushrangers)
58 - Dane Swan (Calder Cannons)
72 - Tristen Walker (Claremont)
- Andrew Hill (Northern Bullants) Rookie Elevated

AFL DRAFT 2002 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
4 - Scott Cummings (West Coast)
NATIONAL DRAFT
21 - Bowman Nixon (Calder Cannons) = Nick Davis (Sydney)
29 - Luke Shackleton (Tassie Mariners)
43 - Cameron Cloke* (Doncaster)
58 - David King (Glenelg)
70 - Matthew Lokan (Port Adelaide)
AFL ROOKIE DRAFT 2002
15 - Nicholas Maxwell (Geelong Falcons)
31 - Jason Roe (City Cobras)
47 - Tom Hooker (Oakleigh Chargers)
60 - Steven Eichner (Port Adelaide SANFL)
TRADES
- Andrew Williams traded from West Coast Eagles for Damien Adkins
- Shane Woewodin traded by Melbourne for draft selection 14 (Daniel Bell)

AFL DRAFT 2003 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
7 - Luke Mullins Murray U18 U18
NATIONAL DRAFT
17 - William Morrison (Tasmania)
32 - Brayden Shaw (Northern Knights)
35 - Brent Hall (South Fremantle Wafl)
48 - Heath Shaw (Northern Knights)
60 - Julian Rowe (Oakleigh Chargers)
AFL ROOKIE DRAFT 2003
15 - Zane Leonard (Dandenong Stingrays)
31 - David Fanning (Aberfeldie)
46 - Dean Benson (Oakleigh Chargers)
60 - Justin Crow (Collingwood)
TRADES
Losses: Heath Scotland Collingwood to Carlton In exchange for pick 35

AFL DRAFT 2004 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
2 - Collingwood - Blake Caracella (Brisbane)
NATIONAL DRAFT
10 - Chris Egan (Murray Bushrangers)
23- Sean Rusling (West Adelaide)
39 - Travis Cloke (Eastern Ranges-F/S)
55 - Adam Iacobucci (Calder Cannons)
66 - Pass
AFL ROOKIE DRAFT 2004
4 - Benjamin Davies (Western Jets)
20 - Heritier O'Brien (Claremont)
TRADES
Gains: Chad Morrison (West Coast), Pick 10 (Kangaroos via Hawthorn)
Losses: Bo Nixon (Hawthorn), Pick 7 (Hawthorn)

 

[magpies on the rise]

It's disgraceful. We should be putting every resource into our recruiting department.

Since 1993...

AFL DRAFT 1993 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
15 - Barry Mitchell (Sydney)
31 - Brett James (Norwood)
45 - Kent Butcher (Geelong)
59 - Jason Williams (Williamstown)
68 - Andrew Tranquilli (Marcellin)
75 - Terry Board (Brisbane)
MID-SEASON
12 - Terry Keays (Frankston)
24 - Kane Batzloff (Chelsea)
NATIONAL DRAFT
34 - Stephen Patterson (Norwood) (Draft choice 34 traded by Adelaide for Brett Chalmers)
35 - Aaron James (Western) (Draft choice 35 traded by Carlton for Barry Mitchell)
39 - Jason Wild (Collingullie) (Draft choice 39 traded by Brisbane for Craig Starcevich, Troy Lehmann)
53 - Justin Mallon (Northern) (Draft choice 53 traded by Melbourne for Paul Ridley)
66 - Andrew Schauble (Xavier College)
TRADES
- Nathan Buckley (Brisbane) traded by Brisbane for draft selection 12 (Chris Scott)
- Brenton Sanderson (Adelaide) traded by Adelaide for draft selection 44 (Eugene Warrior)
- Brad Plain (Essendon) traded by Essendon for draft selection 29 (Scott Mollard)

AFL DRAFT 1994 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
13 - Jon Ballantyne (Footscray)
28 - Trent Hotton (Preston)
34 - Stephen Ryan (Richmond)
37 - Justin Staritski (North Melbourne)
NATIONAL DRAFT
9 - Ben Wilson (Norwood) (Draft choice 9 traded by Adelaide for Jason McCartney)
30 - Chad Liddell (Southern)
47 - Robert Ahmat (Darwin) (Draft choice 47 traded by Geelong for Brenton Sanderson)
53 - Mark Orchard (Ballarat) (Draft choice 53 traded by Adelaide for Jason McCartney)
61 - Stephen Zavalas (Western)
64 - Robert Powell (Northern)
National Pre-Draft Supplementary Chris Curran Collingwood Reserves
TRADES
- Lee Walker West Coast traded by West Coast Eagles for draft selection 12 (Shane Sikora)

AFL DRAFT 1995 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
10 - Dermott Brereton (Sydney)
24 - Nick Hider (Camperdown)
34 - Ryan Aitken (Southern)
NATIONAL DRAFT
10 - Simon Prestigiacomo Northern
40 - Luke Godden Northern
64 - Matthew Carr East Fremantle
71 - Jason Bevan South Adelaide
74 - Mark Bradley Gippsland
76 - Ben Kemp Norwood
77 - Steven Pitt Norwood
TRADES
- Scott Crow (Hawthorn) traded by Hawthorn for draft selection 54 (Adam Ansell)
- Matthew Francis (Richmond) traded by Richmond for Robert Powell
- Adrian McAdam (North Melbourne) traded by North Melbourne for Bradley Plain
- Alex McDonald (Hawthorn) traded by Hawthorn for draft selection 54 (Adam Ansell)
- Robert Pyman (North Melbourne) traded by North Melbourne for draft selection 26 (Chris Groom)

AFL DRAFT 1996 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
9 - Mark Pitura (Richmond)
NATIONAL DRAFT
19 - Brent Tuckey (Ballarat U18) (Draft choice 19 traded by Carlton for Mick McGuane)
48 - Marty Warry (Fitzroy)
65 - Brad Cassidy (Fitzroy) (Draft choice 65 traded by Carlton for Mick McGuane)
77 - Marcus Barham (Calder U18)
84 - Josh Mahoney (Williamstown)
87 - Brad Fuller (NSW-ACT U18)
89 - Dwayne Griffin (Swan Districts WAFL)
90 - Leigh Singline (South Launceston)
TRADES
- Anthony Rocca Sydney traded by Sydney for Ben Wilson/Mark Orchard, draft selection 14 (Brett O'Farrell), draft selection 33 (Will Sangster)
- John Barnett (North Melbourne) traded by North Melbourne for draft selection 70 (Adam Hay)
- Richard Osborne (Footscray) traded by Footscray for draft selection 61 (Stephen Powell)
- Jonathan Ross (Adelaide) traded by Adelaide for Brett James

AFL DRAFT 1997 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
4 - Jason Taylor (Hawthorn)
14 - Robert Schaefer (Central District SANFL)
19 - Michael R. Gardiner (Subiaco WAFL)
NATIONAL DRAFT
8 - Chris Tarrant (Bendigo U18)
24 - James Wasley (Norwood SANFL)
56 - Ben Kinnear (Central District SANFL)
81 - Troy Kirwen (Preston U18)
84 - Frank Raso (Preston U18)
86 - Scott Whiston (Central District SANFL)
- Malcolm Michael (Morningside Qld) Rookie Elevated
- Andrew Pugsley (Scoresby) Rookie Elevated
TRADES
- Clinton King (Sydney) traded by Sydney for Robert Ahmat, draft selection 40 (Fred Campbell)
- Brad Smith (Richmond) traded by Richmond for Aaron James, draft selection 71 (Andrew Kellaway)
- Shannon Gibson (Hawthorn) traded by Hawthorn for Paul Sharkey
- Stuart Mangin (Sydney) traded by Sydney for Robert Ahmat, draft selection 40 (Fred Campbell)
- Jamie Tape (Richmond) traded by Richmond for Aaron James, draft selection 71 (Andrew Kellaway)

AFL DRAFT 1998 – COLLINGWOOD
NATIONAL DRAFT
19 - Nick Davis (NSW-ACT U18)
35 - Brad Oborne (Preston U18)
41 - Craig Jacotine (Dandenong U18) (Draft choice 41 traded by Essendon for draft selection 12 - Adam Ramanauskas)
44 - Heath Scotland (Western U18) (Draft choice 44 traded by Sydney for draft selection 3 - Nic Fosdike)
50 - Damien Adkins (Gippsland U18)
65 - Lee Walker (Collingwood)
76 - Rupert Betheras (Collingwood Reserves)
- Tarkyn Lockyer (East Fremantle WAFL) Rookie Elevated
TRADES
- Tyson Lane (Western Bulldogs) traded by Western Bulldogs for Josh Mahoney
- Paul Licuria (Sydney) traded by Sydney for draft selection 3 (Nic Fosdike)
- Ricky Olarenshaw (Essendon) traded by Essendon for draft selection 12 (Adam Ramanauskas)
- Mark Orchard (Sydney) traded by Sydney for draft selection 3 (Nic Fosdike)

AFL DRAFT 1999 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
3 - Glenn Freeborn (Kangaroos)
13 Cameron Venables (Claremont)
NATIONAL DRAFT
1 - Josh Fraser (Murray)
7 - Danny Roach (Tasmania) (Draft choice 7 traded by Richmond for Clinton King, draft selection 3 - Aaron Fiora)
18 - Rhyce Shaw (Preston)
34 - Leon Davis (Perth WAFL) (Draft choice 34 traded by Sydney for Andrew Schauble)
62 - Ben Johnson (Preston U18)
75 - Dale Baynes (East Fremantle WAFL)
82 - Nick Stone (Prahran U18)
88 - Michael W. Clark (Fremantle)
TRADES
- Steven McKee (Richmond) traded by Richmond for Clinton King, draft selection 3 (Aaron Fiora)
- Andrew Ukovic (Essendon) traded by Essendon for Jonathan Robran, draft selection 40 (David Hille)
- Mark Kinnear (Sydney) traded by Sydney for Andrew Schauble

AFL DRAFT 2000 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
1 - Shane O'Bree (Brisbane)
10 - Simon Hawking (Sydney)
NATIONAL DRAFT
3 - Alan Didak (Port Adelaide SANFL)
19 - Jason Cloke (Eastern U18)
34 - Ryan Lonie (Dandenong U18)
37 - Guy Richards (Eastern U18) (Draft choice 37 traded by Kangaroos for Ricky Olarenshaw and draft selection 8 - Daniel Motlop)
49 - Shane Wakelin (St Kilda)
65 - PASS
TRADES
- James Clement (Fremantle) traded by Fremantle for draft selection 39 (Adam McPhee)
- Brodie Holland (Fremantle) traded by Fremantle for draft selection 39 (Adam McPhee)
- Jarrod Molloy (Brisbane) traded by Brisbane for Malcolm Michael, draft selection 22 (Richard Hadley)
- Carl Steinfort (Geelong) traded by Geelong for draft selection 44 (Joshua Hunt)

AFL DRAFT 2001 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
2 - Chad Rintoul (West Coast)
NATIONAL DRAFT
11 - Richard Cole (Eastern Ranges)
27 - Tom Davidson (Geelong Falcons)
43 - Mark McGough (Murray Bushrangers)
58 - Dane Swan (Calder Cannons)
72 - Tristen Walker (Claremont)
- Andrew Hill (Northern Bullants) Rookie Elevated

AFL DRAFT 2002 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
4 - Scott Cummings (West Coast)
NATIONAL DRAFT
21 - Bowman Nixon (Calder Cannons) = Nick Davis (Sydney)
29 - Luke Shackleton (Tassie Mariners)
43 - Cameron Cloke* (Doncaster)
58 - David King (Glenelg)
70 - Matthew Lokan (Port Adelaide)
AFL ROOKIE DRAFT 2002
15 - Nicholas Maxwell (Geelong Falcons)
31 - Jason Roe (City Cobras)
47 - Tom Hooker (Oakleigh Chargers)
60 - Steven Eichner (Port Adelaide SANFL)
TRADES
- Andrew Williams traded from West Coast Eagles for Damien Adkins
- Shane Woewodin traded by Melbourne for draft selection 14 (Daniel Bell)

AFL DRAFT 2003 – COLLINGWOOD
PRE-SEASON DRAFT
7 - Luke Mullins Murray U18 U18
NATIONAL DRAFT
17 - William Morrison (Tasmania)
32 - Brayden Shaw (Northern Knights)
35 - Brent Hall (South Fremantle Wafl)
48 - Heath Shaw (Northern Knights)
60 - Julian Rowe (Oakleigh Chargers)
AFL ROOKIE DRAFT 2003
15 - Zane Leonard (Dandenong Stingrays)
31 - David Fanning (Aberfeldie)
46 - Dean Benson (Oakleigh Chargers)
60 - Justin Crow (Collingwood)
TRADES
Losses: Heath Scotland Collingwood to Carlton In exchange for pick 35

its not that bad just have to pick better more stronger players thats all

 

[kangaroo19]

Easy on the quotes there MOTR!

And also, I can't believe you guys gave up pick 3 and C. King for McKee!!!

 

[Murray]

Easy on the quotes there MOTR!

And also, I can't believe you guys gave up pick 3 and C. King for McKee!!!

Which would have been Pavlich - Oh the pain!!!!

 

[EB&W Pieman]

Easy on the quotes there MOTR!

And also, I can't believe you guys gave up pick 3 and C. King for McKee!!!

Which would have been Pavlich - Oh the pain!!!!

Not quite right - Pick 3 + CKing for SMcKee + Pick 7 -

and we are led to believe that Fremantle would have taken Pavlich with pick 2 if Collingwood had Pick 3.

Apparently Freo's strategy was "If Richmond have Pick 3 they need midfielders so we'll take Haselby with pick 2 hoping that the Tiges will leave Pavlich for us at Pick 4; If the Collingwood have Pick 3 they need taller players so we'll take Pavlich with Pick 2 hoping the Pies will leave Haselby for us at Pick 4"

Collingwood were NEVER going to get Pavlich, unless we had taken him with Pick 1.

 

[Pedro]

Not quite right - Pick 3 + CKing for SMcKee + Pick 7 -

and we are led to believe that Fremantle would have taken Pavlich with pick 2 if Collingwood had Pick 3.

Apparently Freo's strategy was "If Richmond have Pick 3 they need midfielders so we'll take Haselby with pick 2 hoping that the Tiges will leave Pavlich for us at Pick 4; If the Collingwood have Pick 3 they need taller players so we'll take Pavlich with Pick 2 hoping the Pies will leave Haselby for us at Pick 4"

Collingwood were NEVER going to get Pavlich, unless we had taken him with Pick 1.

Thats the way I believe it panned out, although I wouldn't be complaining with Haselby in the side.

 

[Lensen]

nup, our recrootas are gr8! look at the *s we hav, we'll winn the necks fifteen flagz!!!!

 

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

nup, our recrootas are gr8! look at the *s we hav, we'll winn the necks fifteen flagz!!!!

 

[Barge]

Not quite right - Pick 3 + CKing for SMcKee + Pick 7

Yep, No 7 was a star for us too! Danny Roach (anyone remember him?) DUD!

Played 1 game!

As a Tasmanian I remember the local media were all in a flap prior to that draft about a local star teenager who `looked like going to Collingwood' with pick 7. This player actually went elsewhere with pick 19 as we picked his team mate, Roach.

The Player? BRAD GREEN! (Ouch!)

So in summation, we miss out on Pavlich/Hasleby and Green and pick up McKee and Roach!

NO WONDER I DRINK!

 

[Murray]

Not quite right - Pick 3 + CKing for SMcKee + Pick 7 -

and we are led to believe that Fremantle would have taken Pavlich with pick 2 if Collingwood had Pick 3.

Apparently Freo's strategy was "If Richmond have Pick 3 they need midfielders so we'll take Haselby with pick 2 hoping that the Tiges will leave Pavlich for us at Pick 4; If the Collingwood have Pick 3 they need taller players so we'll take Pavlich with Pick 2 hoping the Pies will leave Haselby for us at Pick 4"

Collingwood were NEVER going to get Pavlich, unless we had taken him with Pick 1.

Chrystal Ball Theory

The fact is Pavlich DID go at 3