Is Dan24's finals system right or wrong? VOTE NOW!

[Rooboy 96]

So two wrongs make a right... another Essendon rule.

 

[RICE80SF]

Have to agree Rooboy - GO YOU KANGAS, LIMP OVER AGAIN

! Our boys will be most upset if you do, he he he

.

AS for the Dan Vote, well I do believe 1st should get more recognition, in the form of a salary cap increase and/or a top five draft pick. BUT I still think the premier should be the GF winner. They too should have a cap increase and a top five draft pick.

Love ya work though Dan you're a tenacious contributer, in fact you deserve the Big Footy "Most Determined Award" for 2000. Well done Dan (no I'm not being a smartarse).

Cheers.


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BOMBER BLITZ IN 2000!

 

[Rooboy 96]

Ricey, I see your mob are there already, just like last year.

This time last year it was gunna be a Brisbane-Essendon grand final.

So cocky Rice, I just love it...

 

[RICE80SF]

Rooboy it's not often a team has a 21-1 record

, I repeat a 21-1 record

, for the H&A and a record win against the reigning premiers in their first final, so I'm making the most of it. Stuff keeping a lid on it now we're 2 wins away from footy imortality.

Don't worry though Cobba I'll be back nice and early Monday morning if we happen to slip up in the next couple of weeks, so you can have your fun

. Just make sure you are too regardless of the outcome

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Cheers.



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BOMBER BLITZ IN 2000!

 

[Rooboy 96]

Ricey, I will be here too.

But unlike you I have not been spurting out crap from my fingertips about my team winning the Flag.

From hear on in, anything for us is a bonus.
7 prelims most longest consistently high era ever, by anyone.

Seeya Monday...

 

[WCE2000]

The Score is now 18 votes no to 7 votes yes.
Also very interesting to note that most people have that have voted yes are Essendon supporters.
One may feel that the Essendon fans are a little nervous that they wont win the Grand Final, which is perhaps why they are campaigning for Dan24's system.

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[Rooboy 96]

WCE2000, like my buddy Dutchie would say "you cynical sack of shit"

WCE2000, don't take it to heart, only having a laugh...

 

[projecteagle]

No. Need not to say anything others have aready said it.

 

[Grendel]

Rooboy you said, quote,
"7 prelims most longest consistently high era ever, by anyone."

The 'by anyone' bit is a little confusing to me.


Hawks 83-89 and again in 91. Lets see, thats SEVEN GRAND FINALS IN A ROW, plus another premiership two years later.

So your saying that prelims mean youve had a greater period of domination than that of the Hawks?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA thats too much.

Bugger preliminary finals, we ruled like no one had since the Dees of the fifties, or the Woods of the late twentys and then some!

WCE2000 thanks for the update on the votes. Its good someone else is doing the counting, i might have done a Matthew Broderik like in the film 'Election'.

 

[Shinboners]

Hey, didn't Melbourne under Norm Smith from the mid'50s to the mid 60's play in something like 8 Grand Finals for 7 wins, or something like that?

Dan24, get your stat book out!

 

[Rooboy 96]

Grendel, I stand corrected and apologise to you that is a mighty performance and one I should have remembered.

Sorry, I think I got caught up in a pissing comp with Ricey, you know how it gets.

[This message has been edited by Rooboy 96 (edited 23 August 2000).]

 

[Dave]

So Rooboy, it's ok to cheat as long as you don't get caught? Is that another one of your kangaroos rules?

PS Grendel, Melbourne played in the GF seven years running too, so "longest consistently high era ever, by anyone." looks a tad sick eh?

 

[RICE80SF]

What colour's red Rooboy

? Onya Grendel, the Roos 7 prelims and 2 in 4 flags, hardly stacks up to a bona-fidey Golden Era that was the Hawks of the Eighties.





[This message has been edited by RICE80SF (edited 23 August 2000).]

 

[WCE2000]

Melbourne made 7 Grand Final in a row from 1954 - 1960 and won 5 Grand Finals, they made it to 11 finals series in a row.
Hawthorn won 4 grand finals out of their 7, which included 13 finals series in a row.
Take your pick at which won you think was the greater team.
Dont forget Collinwood 1927-1930. The only team to win 4 flags in a row.
Only 5 Teams in history have made 10 finals series in a row: Collingwood (1897-1911), Melbourne (1954-1964), Carlton (1978-1988), Hawthorn (1982-1994), West Coast (1990-1999).
So the Kangaroos of the late 90's would have to be classed as one of the great teams in history. They still have the oppurtunity to further on their 8 finals series and 7 prelimanary finals in a row.

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[Rooboy 96]

So Ricey where is your sustained Golden Era, we don't count it, if you drop down and pick up an early draft pick in the middle.

 

[Dave]

Ahh, so it IS cheating then even if you don't get caught Rooboy?

 

[Grendel]

Yea, the dees were in the GF from 54 to 60 for wins in 55/56/57/59/60! Incredible really when you stop and think about it.

The Pies went from 25-30 for four wins on the trot from 27-30. Again incredible, and really stands still imho as the BEST of the periods anyone has ever had. Four in a row is hard to argue with.

They would be the two stand out periods (aside from the Hawks) for domination. Though the Blues did contest five straight from 1906 through to 1910 and became the first team to win three in a row in the years 1906/07/08.

Just wanted to show I know my footy history too

 

[Shinboners]

Speaking of cheating (well, depends on which way you look at it...one team's testing the opposition is another team's cheating) in today's Herald-Sun it was reported that 22% of players surveyed said that the Bombers led the way in gamesmenship. The Doggies came second and the Roos, third. Surprisingly, Freo came fifth.

Clubs that were not inclined to sledge/push the rules/ruffle opposition feathers were Port Adelaide (the club forefathers must be rolling in their graves), Richmond (no surprises there with Daffy and Co.), and Hawthorn (what would Dermie think of that????).

 

[Rooboy 96]

Dave, let me get this right.

You are comparing a little old Kangaroo Supporter with the almighty dominating Essendon.

Is a mistake CHEATING?

Your smartarse Board decided not to take advantage of the amnesty, thinking they would get away with it. This was no mistake, it was a calculated risk, that went wrong.

COP IT SWEAT THEY GOT LESS THEN THEY DESERVED.

 

[Dave]

Mistake my arse. The other clubs that took the amnesty were over their cap just as deliberately as Essendon. Yeah, our board at the time was stupid not to take it but they didn't cheat any more than any club that did take it.

 

[Indian in the cupboard]

Dan,

The basic premise of your system is for the minor premier to receive recognition for their efforts - or in your words, get the "plaudits". I don't know if you've been exposed to any form of media during the footy season but I reckon Essendon has received ample 'plaudits' for its exceptional season. You even recognise this when you talk about how everybody knows Essendon is the best team win or lose the Grand Final - isn't this recognition of the best team?

And stop saying that "people are sheep". Then qualifying the statement with, "I'm not talking specific people, just the community as a whole". What the hell does that mean? I hate to break it to you, but the community is made up of 'specific people' - including everyone on this site.

Oh, and in respone to the thread question -
NO.

 

[Rooboy 96]

Hey Dave,

I have never said other clubs didn'tcheat what I have said is (to Sandie) it should not be something you are proud of, but I suppose that is up to you.

BTW Essendon got caught cheating on their cheating starting to get a little bizarre.

Gredel sorry for hijacking your thread (I will start a new thread titled - CHEATING ON THEIR CHEATING, for any further discussion on this matter).

So what's the score?

 

[Dave]

I don't think it's ok and neither does the current board. I love the way other teams fans have a go at Essendon over something their club in all likelyhood (there were 10 clubs that took the amnesty IIRC) was just as guilty of. Sandie's point about raising something that happened 7 years ago doesn't mean he/she thinks it's ok (at least that's my reading of it), just that it's a tad boring after all this time. I suppose you're going to start on Carlton fans about taking bribes, after all they had two players banned for life about 80- years ago

 

[Shinboners]

Grendel

You must be very proud. Is this the fastest growing thread ever, or what? I mean, it only started yesterday and now it's zoomed past 70 replies. Congratulations!

Now, um.....what was the topic again?

 

[Grendel]

Actually Shinboners i think its gotten lost a little haha.

Maybe i should start another one with the instructions

Just vote Yes or No. Any divergence will be marked as a donkey vote!

What do you Reckon?