Is Geelong home games at Etihad the biggest league-endorsed rort of recent times?

Discussion in 'AFL - The Australian Football League' started by MotleyLemon, Dec 8, 2015.

Put it out there
  1. RedVest4

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    The AFL had to ensure a certain number of games were played at Etihad every year. (I believe this deal has ended now meaning it shouldn’t be an issue).
    With Etihad tenants ie. North, Dogs etc. selling home games to other cities, it meant other teams had to play home games there to meet that agreement. Unfortunately in our case we had to make up 2 games a year there and lose money for it, simply because other teams sell home games elsewhere to make a profit.
     

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    Huh? We have played five of the last six games against the Tigers at the MCG. We played the first semi final at Richmond's home ground despite the AFL having a $2.5 billion TV deal in place. Gil and Caro waffle on about attendances, but i say stuff that, if you qualify higher you play your first final at home. Buy a TV set! The Tigers have done well with the fixture against the Cats in recent years. It's all nonsense anyway, every team must be rostered on to play in Geelong every 3 years or so...
     
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    Sounds like South Morang?
     
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    Yes I went through the other side of this argument with another Cats poster which most Cats people are either oblivious to or choose to ignore.

    Some clubs choose to sell home games because they need the money, it's not really economically viable to get crowds of 27 thousand at the G, you don't make any money. Geelong however make a truckload of money from 27k at Simonds. Why? Because the administrators of the largely tax payer funded Simonds stadium basically let them use it for free, compared to the G and Etihad tenants who pay a pretty penny to play in their stadiums. Maybe the taxpayer should demand a comensurate return on their investment? Hope they don't though because Geelong would be broke. Yes if you want a level playing field with 11 games and pay a proper contribution to the stadium then you will go bust very quickly. The boss knows this, that's why he needs to be careful about how far he pushes it. He does seem to be happy to run with the whole this aint fair bs to keep the mindless sheeple on his side though.
     
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    Instead of Tassie, why don't you sell 4 home games to Geelong if it makes so much money? Or is the Tassie gravy train to good for you?
     
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    Id be more than happy to do as you suggested, as long as we’d then have the option to sell 4 home games a year like Hawthorn does to make a profit and also get 11 true home games.
     
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    Geelong have hosted 6 of the last 9 H@A games 4 @ simmonds, 1 Etihad and 1@MCG. If you want to host games at the MCG, which your club does then you need to take aim at GFC as you don't have a leg to stand on in any argument.

    I noticed your best fairest was at Crown last night, which is surprising considering it's so hard for your fans to travel 35 mins up the highway and then struggle back again. I guess there musn't be a venue big enough in Geelong...
     
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    Lets be honest here. If the cats did not have KP would they be good enough to even make finals? My feeling is No.
     
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    We will take your opinion as someone experienced with missing finals seriously.
     
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    Nah it is, whether you like it or not. You play home games at the MCG during the H&A, so obviously you get that ground experience (as well as experience from some away games there). The ground is NO issue for Geelong. However, you're right we played you once away and once at home = all fair.

    But let's stop the home ground bleating. There's absolutely no doubt that both Adelaide and Geelong have a massive home ground advantage. Richmond played Adelaide and Geelong ONCE EACH during the H&A and it was at THEIR HOME GROUNDS.

    Going on results during the year, if we'd have played both teams at the MCG as well as at their home grounds during H&A we'd have an extra 8 points on the board, with a healthier percentage to go along with it. Those teams would have had one less win, so -4 points each and the top 4 in order at the end of H&A would have been:

    1. Richmond
    2. Adelaide
    3. GWS
    4. Port Adelaide

    Geelong wouldn't have had the double chance! And guess where we played our ONE AND ONLY game against Port Adelaide? You got it! We'd have 'earned' our 'home ground finals advantage' anyway, if it was a fair comp. So please, for the love of God, let it go!
     
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    Why get salty?

    Your away record is poor hence my reasoning. Also in the last 5 years we often made finals so your old insult i fear has little substance now.
     
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    Yeah.... a B&F with a few hundred people, of which the majority are from the club anyway, is very much the same as a weekly game where 35-40,000 people go to....
     
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    Why is it still so hard for people to understand?

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    We DON’T, I repeat DON’T want to host games at the MCG
     
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    As of 2017 for 2018. lol.
     
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    So we agree. Richmond and Geelong (and Melbourne, Collingwood etc) all unfairly have to play home games at Etihad to supplement the Hawks, North and Dogs selling home game where we get a lower financial return than playing at our respective home grounds.
     
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    None of this comes close to the advantage of playing the GF at your home ground regardless of where you finished. No chance Tiges would be Premiers if they played at Adelaide Oval or KP like they should have...
     
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    I agree there, however Geelong are further disadvantaged because they have to play home games against teams located in that city that isn’t the city Geelong is located in. Geelong also doesn’t have the option of selling home games like all Melbourne teams do.
     
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    Not sure on exact figures but Tassie probably would make us more money. It's about a milion per game plus extra members, merch etc, quite a lucrative deal. If we got thrown out of Tassie I would be more than happy to play a few of the lower drawing clubs at Simonds if we got the same stadium deal as you and made similar profits. That would be great for the Geelong region too, realy is a waste having such a good stadium sitting there empty.
     
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    No home games against collingwold or hawthorn next year obviously. His tune changes pretty quick when it suits.
     
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    Because geelong had a stadium funded by tax payers from which they make a metric ****ton of cash
     
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    The Cats have contributed ~ 20 million to the development of Simmonds Stadium ... doesn't quite suite the narrative I know. :)
     
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    Geelong and their fans could whinge for australia
     
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    No worries, so with that deal, you’d be happy to take a financial loss by playing 4 other home games not at your home ground just like Geelong currently do?
    weve been clear on this for a long time now... we want 11 home games in our home city
    no no, if there is any help from the government at all then that means it is the government funding EVERYTHING
     
  24. Lunchlady Doris

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    Who is salty? Please demonstrate how our away record is poor - thanks.

    I must have blinked and missed your finals performances previous to this year.
     
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    That's a hilarious fantasy you've conceived to attempt to make some sort of point, I'll give you that much.