Is Geelong home games at Etihad the biggest league-endorsed rort of recent times?

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  1. Relton Roberts

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    Its a bit narrow minded to think that you could survive playing ALL your games in Geelong.

    Yes, in the short fall you gain some home ground advantage and maybe a few wins along the way but you also restrict the growth of your supporter base. How can you increase your membership base when the only access you have to the ground is a 30k stadium? Your Melbourne based supporters will drop off. Revenue from sponsorship will drop off accordingly etc.

    And to top that, during the periods where you aren't as successful as you have been in the past decade, the whole situation only gets worse!
     

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  2. ThatsjustDappa

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    Non Victorian clubs currently offer membership packages and rights to entry of 'Away' games, what's the beef?

    Isn't Easter a Hawthorn home game? Unless Easter isn't practiced in Geelong - possibly right as there is a high level of heathens in Geelong so you could be right....
     
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    Fine by me, If we don't have the seats for Melbourne supporters, then we can't take any away from you either. Easter Monday just comes down the highway when it's our turn.
     
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    We would still have 4 or 5 Melbourne away games, by all accounts that's what Geelong should have at home, so I don't see any problem with that on the flip side.
     
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    Obviously not a member/never been to the Easter Monday game as that has been alternating home fixture for at least the past 6 years.
    I guess playing all games in Geelong doesn't effect you from the couch?
     
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    Which non Victorian clubs offer entry for all away games in Melbourne?
    I thought all interstate clubs only offer 11 game home memberships only.
     
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    Easter Monday has to stay at the MCG IMO so maybe Hawthorn have to look at playing someone else on that day in the future
     
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    It varies, I believe for the Crows you can buy an Away Victorian package. Other clubs have offers depending on demand...
     
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    Alternate home ground KP and MCG then - Geelong makes more money at KP and I think the Geelong hierarchy would ideally want to play all home games at KP.

    Thanks for asking, my couch is comfortable and actually quite portable...

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    Do you think Hawthorn choose to play in Tassie for the home ground advantage it brings down there? Do GWS play games out of Canberra because it is a fortress at that venue?
    No its not, its a commercial decision to give them more exposure. Much similar to your 'exposure' with your home games in Melbourne.

    Your own club doesn't want to pigeon hole itself to Geelong.
     
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    You better tell the decision makers then....

    “We want to get to a position where we can play 11 games in Geelong,” Acting CEO Justin Reeves told the Geelong Advertiser. June 2017.
     

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    There is a big difference between talking PR crap for the fans and actually doing anything.


    What have they actually DONE to get all their games at KP?

    I mean, $200M has been spent on redeveloping the ground...you'd think they could have included in that a deal with the AFL for minimum games, etc. just like every other stadium built/rebuilt in the past 30-40 years has had, but no....nothing...

    Those in charge are either grossly incompetent to have missed that opportunity, or don't actually want it and just spit out that PR to give their fans an 'us against them' attitude to fire them up.
     
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    However, when it comes to its home matches, the Cats will continue to campaign for some changes.

    “In an ideal world, we would host all 11 home games at Simonds Stadium, but we understand this is not possible," Cook said.

    http://www.geelongcats.com.au/news/2015-10-29/cook-delighted-with-cats-2016-fixture
     
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    Why should Easter Monday be played at the MCG? What intrinsic value does the MCG add to the event? Is it not the game itself and the two teams?
     
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    No you just don't play on Easter Monday anymore.
     
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    Perhaps you need to point your questions towards the Kardinia Park Stadium Trust, setup by the State Government via the Kardinia Park Stadium Act 2016. The only influence GFC has in the Trust is a representative on the Advisory Committee as selected by the Minister.
     
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    The quote from 2015 seems to align with one from 2017, strategy seems sound...
     
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    Why not? What about the MCG makes the difference on Easter Monday.
     
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    It's a blockbuster game on a public holiday, blockbuster games don't get played at boutique stadiums.
     
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    Geelong will never get 11 home games so maybe we should sell one to Port Adelaide who apparently don't want GC in China next year. And if the match in India goes down then we sell this too so we are down to 9 home games?

    What I just said is perhaps the most sensible argument of Geelong not getting 11 genuine home games.
     
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    That $200m is the real rort that's going on. $200m for a ground that can't fit everybody, lacks cafes, bars, restaurants, function areas, terraces and comfortable seating... you look at a comparable amount of money spent on the 'G and what it paid for...

    Growth of the code should not be stifled in this instance. Move games from the venue because it isn't, though it should be, up to the grade.
     
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    You mean your club spent money on all this, is pretty much the only tenant and has no influence over what they do?

    I think your club needs to learn to walk before they run and take on that trust before you try and talk the AFL into anything.

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    Nail
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    It was a combination of ALP pork barrelling and a job creation project to smooth out the transition with Ford closing down and the consequent loss of identity as the town becomes more and more just another outer suburb of Melbourne.