Analysis Is Matt Crouch going to be the best ball magnet in the AFL?

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Put it out there
  1. LiamPickering

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    They out injured for the 2017 one?
     
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  2. LiamPickering

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    PS wish Jarman Impey slid to us :'(

    I remember being told post draft one of the Port recruiters thought he would most likely reach 50 games but would never be a good player so they overlooked him.

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    Should push 300. Big fan of his. Feels like he has been 22 for years.
     
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    Pushing towards A grade
     
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    What other b grade gets 30 per game ... every game. His possessions are quality to... not deadly .. but very acceptable
     
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    Looking good for our BnF, has been so consistent.

    What a season he is having, amazing he is only 22.
     
  8. Paladin

    Paladin Norm Smith Medallist

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    Killed it after half time and broke the game open. Dominant is a good description.
     
  9. Redleg Crow

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    This was before tonight's game - this rating rewards consistency (much like the B&F)

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    I've been going over the 2013 draft to pick the best players. I probably don't watch enough of other teams but here's a list.

    Bontempelli
    Kelly
    Cripps
    Merrett
    Billings
    Salem
    Crouch???
    Sheed
    Kolodjashnij
    McCarthy
    McDonald
    Brown
    Jones
    Lobb

    Seems weird putting him up that high and it's more than likely that some of them will go past him including some of the talls I have missed (Gardiner/McStay). He's obviously a step or two behind the top 5, but on current output he probably deserves to be top 10.
     
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    Paladin Norm Smith Medallist

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    Salem is a classy player but Crouch well ahead on performance i would think.
     

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  12. Redleg Crow

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    The Herald Sun re-ranked it last month:

    THE 2013 DRAFT RE-RANKED

    1. MARCUS BONTEMPELLI (No.4, Western Bulldogs): Almost the complete football CV at 21. Close to No.1 player in the game.
    2. JOSH KELLY (No.2, GWS Giants): North Melbourne’s $9 million carrot says everything. Brownlow calls from draft days are back on.
    3. ZACH MERRETT (No.26, Essendon): No.1 in AFL for metres gained this season, averaging 599 per game. Leather-poisoning Don the fans love.
    4. PATRICK CRIPPS (No.13, Carlton): Contested midfield beast who was a surprisingly early pick at 13 on draft night.
    5. JAYDEN HUNT (No.57, Melbourne): Searing pace and symbolic of the new Melbourne — shrewd recruiting polished with diligent development.
    6. ORAZIO FANTASIA (No.55, Essendon): Genuine A-grade small forward who has four bags of three goals or more this season (Bombers have won each of those games).
    7. MATT CROUCH (No.23, Adelaide): Ball magnet. Averaging 32.5 disposals per game — No.3 in the AFL.
    8. TOM BOYD (No.1, GWS/Bulldogs): Critics will disagree, but most can only dream of a Norm Smith Medal-worthy performance in a premiership.
    9. RORY LOBB (No.29, GWS Giants): No.3 for contested marks among forwards. Kicked three goals in a preliminary final.
    10. BEN BROWN (No.47, Nth Melb): Plucked from North’s VFL affiliate with supposedly dodgy ankles. Clean mark and reliable set-shot.
    11. JACK BILLINGS (No.3, St Kilda): It’s Billings with a bullet. Has rediscovered the scoreboard impact which made him a junior star.
    12. ZAK JONES (No.15, Sydney): Brother of Demons co-captain Nathan is now rated an elite wingman after being unleashed this year.
    13. JARMAN IMPEY (No.21, Port Adel): Doesn’t get the kudos in Victoria, but averaging 1.4 goals and 3.6 tackles per match.
    14. TOBY NANKERVIS (No.35, Sydney/Richmond): Aggressive ruckman who is a force around the ground. Is in the All-Australian conversation.
    15. CAMERON McCARTHY (No.14, GWS/Fremantle): Has returned from football wilderness to show glimpses — goalkicking accuracy still askew.
    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...t/news-story/08190fa55daca9f631c4a6e9cb85becd
     
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    Ahhh. Forgot about Fantasia and Hunt.

    Wouldn't have Boyd. Playing well in a GF is obviously a great thing for a young player to do, but I don't think it warrants plaudits when discussing who has been the better player since the draft. May well come back into it if he gets his mind right.

    Impey has been gifted an early start to his career if you ask me. Not a bad player but so many deficiencies.

    Nankervis has been good this season from what I've seen, but maybe a touch early to put him alongside the others. Same with Hunt.
     
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    Future all Australian, and will be top 4 in our bnf this year. Kicking has improved out of sight. Single handedly turned the tide in the second half. Gun!
     
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    http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/ad...s/news-story/2cb6958f152d94cf759bbe63265e5c36

    Adelaide Crows show premiership credentials

     
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    He's had a superb year so far. I never had any doubt that he'd be the kind of player to get 30 touches every week, but I've been so impressed with his poise and decision-making this year. It's amazing how much better his disposal looks now that he's taking an extra second to sum up his options.

    Add to that what is now a good tank, good tackling technique, has been durable so far, and he is super competitive. He's become a really good player and is still so young, who knows how good he'll end up.
     
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    Needs more Riley Knight
     
  18. Redleg Crow

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    With just 21 games, the Crows need more Riley Knight - cf Bont - 78 games, Kelly 74, Merrett 74, Cripps 58, Matt 62.

    In a couple years maybe, but right now he's still more potential than actual.
     
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    44 disposals from 74% game time... Cripes.

    2017 avge: Mitchell: 35.8 disposals, 87.5% game time = 40.9 per 100% game time
    2017 avge: Matt: 33.0 disposals, 76.9% game time = 42.9 per 100% game time

    So to recap, the answer to the question is, "Yes"

    Also those worried about his game time - we need to remember he is still young, and he averaged the same game time this year as Mitchell did 2 years ago when he was Matt's age.
     
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    Well, watching a dead rubber from the couch at home as it turns out
     
  21. John Who

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    There's actually a crazy good chance that in the next 12 months he could:
    - win a BnF this year
    - win a Norm Smith (if we make it to the GF)
    - win a Brownlow next year

    I'm very tempted to say "bookmark it!", but I really hope he doesn't rest on his laurels and just keeps wanting to improve his craft. Not the most flashiest of players, but definitely someone I'd gladly have on my team!
     
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    Matt Crouch All Australian
     
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    Nice one :)
     
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    http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...y/news-story/4692ea58856c654a6a0a36d6087ba8e0

    The pair rank in the top three at the Crows in tackles, contested possessions and clearances, with only star vice-captain, fellow midfielder and AFLPA most courageous player winner Rory Sloane in the same conversation.

    The Crouch siblings rank in the top five in the league as a midfield combination for disposals (averaging 60.8), groundball-gets (18.6) and uncontested possessions ((34.6).

    They are averaging career-highs in almost every key statistic.

    As for their brothers disposals record, Matt described it as “a funny one’’.

    “It’s nice to achieve that together but it’s actually not something that me and Brad have even spoken about,’’ he said. “It’s something we might reflect on later but at the moment we’re just focused on the finals and trying to win a premiership.’’

    The pair appears to have an almost telepathic on-field understanding but Matt said that it’s not something that comes naturally “because we didn’t play a lot of footy together growing up’’.

    “Brad’s 15 months older than me so when we were growing up we weren’t in the same team very often,’’ Matt said.

    “If anything, we probably just notice each other’s voice out on the field more than others.’’

    That’s music to the ears of Crows’ fans.
     
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