Review Is our forward line dysfunctional?

[Cristiano Ronaldo]

Does anyone feel that Hurley really straightens us up when he's forward?

wat

 

[HULK HOGAN]

wat

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[hurlygurdy]

Does anyone feel that Hurley really straightens us up when he's forward?

He is a kamikaze, so of course he has an impact! If he could do that without getting injured then it would be worth keeping in the back of our minds in case a replacement defender came along... But no. He can't do it without getting injured.

 

[HULK HOGAN]

He is a kamikaze, so of course he has an impact! If he could do that without getting injured then it would be worth keeping in the back of our minds in case a replacement defender came along... But no. He can't do it without getting injured.

Good point, although at times I've thought he'd go alright in the old Crameri role.

 

[BrunoV]

The reality is that if Day was affordable, he is the sort of hard leading CHF type that would suit the team but I don't see how it will change much because it is not an issue with the key forwards.

Daniher, in particular, does draw the ball on the lead. Carlisle is simply a player that is best suited to winning the ball in 50 with a run at the high ball. He is fine when he hits up to the wings, because he has a decent enough engine to work into space to win the ball.

The first and most important issue is to create space for them to ply their respective trades close to goal. This involves movement from everyone (including more movement from the key forwards).

If our flankers, in particular, are not working their arses off up and down the ground, and take up shallow positions in the middle of the ground, their opponents are much closer to the space that we want to leave free for Daniher and Carlisle meaning that we are basically clogging our own forward line.

It also applied from CHF because it is usually our players who clump together on a wing waiting for the ball to come in. They don't work back to goal and out again or across the ground to create space. They just stand there.

It all flows from a total lack of running power in the team.

I think people forget how inefficient the forward line was in 2013 when we had Hurley, Crameri and Bellchambers as the main targets. We still had most of the same problems and constant calls to play Gumbleton as an additional CHF target to provide a more traditional structure to work the ball back towards goal.

Makes more sense here.

 

[Fear Boner]

its got potential
but currently its a pain to watch and score

 

[marky53]

Yes. The answer is yes

 

[Eleven 38]

The solution to all our problems put Hurley forward,,, amm no...

 

[quotemokc]

Not only does it not kick goals it puts no pressure on defenders

 

[Red Black and Blue]

The solution to all our problems put Hurley forward,,, amm no...

He is what we need. Obviously more valuable as a defender but we really need someone with footy smarts who relentlessly creates a contest. It's amazing how we have two 200cm marking forwards yet neither of them can put body on the defenders.

 

[Cristiano Ronaldo]

i want Carlisle to stay forward for the sake of keeping him settled in that part of the ground. but unfortunately, going back to Hurley-forward Carlisle-back is what might actually start working for us. problem being of course is that Hurley is playing really well down back. Carlisle and Daniher don't compliment each other, they're too alike

 

[vast]

Its not just the forward line. Its the attacking side of the game the whole team is struggling with. Our forwards arent great but they arent being helped by whats happening up the field either.

 

[yaco55]

Another typical day at the office - EFC scored from 38% of forward 50 entries when their season average is 39%. Conceded a score from 47% of opposition forward 50 entries when our average is 45/46%.

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Another typical day at the office - EFC scored from 38% of forward 50 entries when their season average is 39%. Conceded a score from 47% of opposition forward 50 entries when our average is 45/46%.

When is it going to be fixed? even the lower ranked teams a scoring more than us.

 

[Jesse Custer]

When is it going to be fixed? even the lower ranked teams a scoring more than us.

Ask James and the coaching staff.

 

[eth-dog]

Dump Bassett, or move him to midfield and let Harves be forward coach. He was a forward once, was he not?

 

[Phone]

ok but "The forward line coach must be a forward" is the shittiest logic in the world.

 

[Lethal]

Dump Bassett, or move him to midfield and let Harves be forward coach. He was a forward once, was he not?

He was in his early days. Was moved back to stop him getting so banged up.

 

[Phone]

Is it possible that when Mark Harvey was played up forward, we did not have a forward as forward line coach and therefore Mark Harvey could not be good?

We have been going through horrible periods like this where we can barely score and look terrible going forward in every single year of Hird's tenure, despite 3 different forward line coaches, tons of different forwards and hell tons of different midfielders. We go constantly go through periods where it appears we can literally not do anything well except when we get to play quick slingshoot footy off halfback.

 

[Phone]

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/the-forwardline-conundrum.833028/

Please excuse any terrible posts I made in there. That is from 2011.

 

[Phone]

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/mccartney-to-coach-dogs.872777/

Also this thread is hilarious because most of the suggested replacements actually did get jobs here...

 

[Bombers36]

I think Joe is doing his bit, Carlisle and Ambrose struggling to have any scoreboard impact against good sides though is a worry.
Cooney & Chappy being out hasnt helped and when they come back we will be much better.
Im surprised we havent bought in Giles or Mckernan to allow TBell to float forward a bit more - hopefully that happens against North this week.

 

[table tennis]

Midfield and defenders need to show some dare down the corridor.

I have been banging on that its the way it gets in there, everyone else seems to think that its carlisles and Danihers fault.

Lloyd highlighted it on the footy show.

No dare to use the corridor

 

[Highly Evolved]

Our forward line is so bad that we should just move Carlisle back, (keeping Hurley back too), and just try and prevent the opposition from scoring at all. Daniher is good for a goal game so at worst we could be looking at ESS 1.2.8 v OPP 0.6.6. /joking
Seriously though, awful delivery into the forward line and some very confused looking forwards each week.

 

[Rack Watts]

We'd be effective with an Eddie Betts.
The ball is always in a position where a good crumber can score.