Is Peter Matera Aboriginal?

[Altum Volantes]

Someone with Aboriginal blood can consider themselves Aboriginal I believe.

Anyone know the legal requirement? ie. for Abstudy etc.

 

[YAKUZA]

Then that shows your ignorance of the definition of Aboriginality doesn't it.

Well then how about you enlighten all of us less knowledgeable people about the definition of Aboriginality??

 

[masai]

Pardon my ignorance again, but what's Regan? Of the East Fremantle Regan's?

Daniels mother is Roxanne (nee Regan), daughter of Con Regan, from the family of Regans well known around East Fremantle.

 

[Dogwatcher]

Someone with Aboriginal blood can consider themselves Aboriginal I believe.

Anyone know the legal requirement? ie. for Abstudy etc.

Very minimal Aboriginal heritage required from what I understand.

 

[hopeless]

If you have Aboriginal ancestry, Identify as an Aboriginal person and are recognised as an Aboriginal person by the Aboriginal community I think thats close enough to the def.

 

[Frodo]

What a load of bullcrap.

Firstly 'aboriginal' is being used as a colloquialism for 'Australian aboriginal'

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An Aborigine is

1. 1. A member of the indigenous or earliest known population of a region; a native.
   2. often Aborigine A member of any of the indigenous peoples of Australia. See Usage Note at native.
2. aborigines The flora and fauna native to a geographic area.

[From Latin aborigines, original inhabitants (folk etymology of a pre-Roman tribal name) : ab-, from; see ab- + origine, ablative of go, beginning; see origin.]
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The key to this is the root "original inhabitants"

Peter can claim to have blod in him related to Aborigines but he can only claim to being 'part' Aborigine.

He can however claim what he likes, just as I can claim to be a royal if I wish. Doesn't make it true though!!!

The political use of the term differs though (nothing new in that as politicians bend words at will). And yes, people with up to 1/16th aboriginal heritage get handouts that the rest of Australians don't.

Under the circumstances of the handouts it would seem sensible to claim you are aboriginal if you have any chance at all. Get on the gravy train at taxpayers expense!!!!

 

[Cat_flying_high]

If only Total_Package aka Frank Matera weren't banned, then we'd be able to find out Peter's exact percentage of aboriginality.
I thought Kerr was indian/australian

 

[YAKUZA]

If only Total_Package aka Frank Matera weren't banned, then we'd be able to find out Peter's exact percentage of aboriginality.
I thought Kerr was indian/australian

Roger, his father, is of Burmese extraction.

 

[Frodo]

I reckon he's an AUSTRALIAN


(Am I allowed to say that or is it racist? )

 

[Cat_flying_high]

I believe that Chris Mainwaring was once named an aboriginal. His parents are not aboriginal so I do not know where that one came from.

That's to do with a rumour from the 90's where an old aboriginal man claimed to be his father, and told everyone that he was...But as far as Chris believes, he's not!

 

[hungrytiger]

Roger Kerr is born in Calcutta, India.. To an English Father and Indian Mother Anglo-Indian
Daniels mum is a Regan from Famous Fremantle family Con Regan etc..
Roger was my Assistant Junior Coach with his son in my team.

Peter Materas mum is a Collard.

 

[Shoei]

I'm glad a question posted 10 years ago finally has a definitive answer.

Scotland yard can now focus on if Jack The Ripper was more of a Blonde or Brunette kinda guy.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Jesus christ some people have seriously got a lot of time on their hands

 

[QS]

I would hazard a guess ScottyB's 89th and final post appeared on this very page..

 

[Evelyn208]

Yeah, let's not unbury decade old threads lol.

 

[Ochre]

What a load of bullcrap.

Firstly 'aboriginal' is being used as a colloquialism for 'Australian aboriginal'

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
An Aborigine is

1. 1. A member of the indigenous or earliest known population of a region; a native.
   2. often Aborigine A member of any of the indigenous peoples of Australia. See Usage Note at native.
2. aborigines The flora and fauna native to a geographic area.

[From Latin aborigines, original inhabitants (folk etymology of a pre-Roman tribal name) : ab-, from; see ab- + origine, ablative of go, beginning; see origin.]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The key to this is the root "original inhabitants"

Peter can claim to have blod in him related to Aborigines but he can only claim to being 'part' Aborigine.

He can however claim what he likes, just as I can claim to be a royal if I wish. Doesn't make it true though!!!

The political use of the term differs though (nothing new in that as politicians bend words at will). And yes, people with up to 1/16th aboriginal heritage get handouts that the rest of Australians don't.

Under the circumstances of the handouts it would seem sensible to claim you are aboriginal if you have any chance at all. Get on the gravy train at taxpayers expense!!!!

****, I didn't know Andrew Bolt used to post on this board.

 

[dajesmac]

Lel, 2015 version of BigFooty will lock this because it's politically incorrect.

 

[EagleEgo]

So, a Chinese person can now be an Australian Aborigine? What about someone from Sweden?

Funny enough, it is believed that some Australian aborigines were Chinese decent as the Chinese visited Australia in the Ming Dynasty. (year 1403?)
Even more, the following article reported that the Chinese had information about Australia 2000 years ago.
http://www.gavinmenzies.net/Evidenc...inese-fleets-visit-to-australia-–-west-coast/
That might also explain the aboriginal word "Loy Yang" (as Loy Yang Power Station) sounds very Chinese.
Actually, history of human race is very deep and colourful. The more you think and talk about, the more multicultural we are. Something that we can go back to think, learn and be proud of.

 

[kingswood71]

Peter can claim to have blod in him related to Aborigines but he can only claim to being 'part' Aborigine.
He can however claim what he likes, just as I can claim to be a royal if I wish. Doesn't make it true though!!!
The political use of the term differs though (nothing new in that as politicians bend words at will). And yes, people with up to 1/16th aboriginal heritage get handouts that the rest of Australians don't.
Under the circumstances of the handouts it would seem sensible to claim you are aboriginal if you have any chance at all. Get on the gravy train at taxpayers expense!!!!

Jesus. What a load of crap!
Firstly, there is no such thing as "part" Aboriginal. This term ceased to be used many years ago. A person is either "Aboriginal" or they are not (according to the approved definition). It doesnt matter if only their great-great-great grandmother was Aboriginal...if they meet the criteria of "Aboriginal", they are Aboriginal.
Secondly, people can claim to be whatever they like, but will be asked to prove this. Yes, Aboriginal people are often asked to prove that they are Aboriginal. This usually involves letters from elders in their community who know their heritage and are willing to confirm it.
Thirdly, what benefits do Aboriginal people get that other Australian's dont??.....I work extensively in Aboriginal affairs and I dont know of them. Can you please enlighten me by showing actual proof of this?? Proof isnt "My friends neighbour's cousin told me that an Aboriginal kid at his school gets paid to go to school" either
Finally, If someone has Aboriginal heritage, they can claim they are Aboriginal....But, to do this, they need to also be accepted by their Aboriginal community as Aboriginal. one could not wake up at the age of 50 and discover that a long lost family member was Aboriginal, and then claim that they are Aboriginal. They would have to go thru a process of community acceptance first. And they would have to "identify" and be "accepted" as being Aboriginal.
The "identify" as Aboriginal is a big part of this....this is why some people are seen as "Aboriginal", but their siblings may not be. This is due to one embracing their Aboriginality and one not.

 

[kingswood71]

They don't look Aboriginal.

How does a person "look" Aboriginal?? Do they have to all have dark skin and meet a criteria of "darkness"??
Sharrod Wellingham?
Murray Newman??
Alex Pearce??
Brady Grey??
Jon Griffin??
Josh McGuinness??
Liam Jones??
Andrew Walker??
Do any of these meet you concept of "looking Aboriginal" enough???

 

[kingswood71]

Easy Yak Aboriginal = Boong. There is no way Matera is a Boong.

Here is an idea...next time you see Peter ask him if he is a "boong"...and see what reaction you get!
He will probably be at the game on Saturday night, maybe you can ask him then.

 

[Sw3Et]

How does a person "look" Aboriginal?? Do they have to all have dark skin and meet a criteria of "darkness"??
Sharrod Wellingham?
Murray Newman??
Alex Pearce??
Brady Grey??
Jon Griffin??
Josh McGuinness??
Liam Jones??
Andrew Walker??
Do any of these meet you concept of "looking Aboriginal" enough???

No, none of them really look aboriginal at all. I don't know what you're getting so worked up over.

 

[Darryl Ferrara]

Jesus. What a load of crap!
Firstly, there is no such thing as "part" Aboriginal. This term ceased to be used many years ago. A person is either "Aboriginal" or they are not (according to the approved definition). It doesnt matter if only their great-great-great grandmother was Aboriginal...if they meet the criteria of "Aboriginal", they are Aboriginal.
Secondly, people can claim to be whatever they like, but will be asked to prove this. Yes, Aboriginal people are often asked to prove that they are Aboriginal. This usually involves letters from elders in their community who know their heritage and are willing to confirm it.
Thirdly, what benefits do Aboriginal people get that other Australian's dont??.....I work extensively in Aboriginal affairs and I dont know of them. Can you please enlighten me by showing actual proof of this?? Proof isnt "My friends neighbour's cousin told me that an Aboriginal kid at his school gets paid to go to school" either
Finally, If someone has Aboriginal heritage, they can claim they are Aboriginal....But, to do this, they need to also be accepted by their Aboriginal community as Aboriginal. one could not wake up at the age of 50 and discover that a long lost family member was Aboriginal, and then claim that they are Aboriginal. They would have to go thru a process of community acceptance first. And they would have to "identify" and be "accepted" as being Aboriginal.
The "identify" as Aboriginal is a big part of this....this is why some people are seen as "Aboriginal", but their siblings may not be. This is due to one embracing their Aboriginality and one not.

I'm quite sure that there are a few benefits available for people of Aboriginal heritage as my blonde haired blue eyed daughter (adopted) found out about five years ago that her grandfather was Aborigine.
When she had a son 3 years ago, the nurse asked the question of race which then opened up a raft of other questions.
The short story is that she and her partner separated soon after and my daughter applied for benefits. At that time, she was informed of different benefits because of her heritage and although nothing was said in great detail, some of them were - free dental, medical and legal. Also 'help with schooling costs' rent,etc.
She has never needed them as we (her parents) help her financially.
Possibly this has changed in the last 3 years??

 

[Hardhat11]

If your aboriginal your aboriginal

It's very offensive to list %'s

Yes he's aboriginal and you can say other descents also, however saying %'s will offend them ...I work with them a lot

 

[Tsongkie]

Daniel Kerr is Indian, okay okay!