Is political correctness stifling debate?

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Steinfreo

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Ah, now I'm a Shapiro bro. You really can't accept the notion of someone thinking for themselves, being heterodox in their ideology and taking each situation as unique and nuanced.

I think I've listened to a Shapiro podcast / show twice in my life. He is too socially and politically conservative for my liking but can respect the basis of a lot of his views. Which, it goes without saying, isn't tacit approval or agreement with them...

Find a new box.
All your talking points are Shapiro simple as that. I know exactly what your going to respond with before you even say it. The only surprise was your Yang gang, but most of the yang gang are shapiro converts, its JBP/Shapiro desciples filtered through Joe Rogan become Yang gang, its the new cycle.
 

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Ah, now I'm a Shapiro bro. You really can't accept the notion of someone thinking for themselves, being heterodox in their ideology and taking each situation as unique and nuanced.

I think I've listened to a Shapiro podcast / show twice in my life. He is too socially and politically conservative for my liking but can respect the basis of a lot of his views. Which, it goes without saying, isn't tacit approval or agreement with them...

Find a new box.
Show me one post where you arent a complete libertarian trope. You are not an individual at all, you are completely indoctrinated. Your position is an amagamation of centre-right reddit and youtube perspectives 100%.
 

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Show me one post where you arent a complete libertarian trope. You are not an individual at all, you are completely indoctrinated. Your position is an amagamation of centre-right reddit and youtube perspectives 100%.
You can call me Suzie if it makes you feel better. I've no desire to defend myself against irrelevant and uninteresting accusations. Either the ideas or arguments I put forward are well-considered and meritorious or they aren't. Whatever you label me as has no bearing on that.
 

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Dude... of all the people you could direct that description at, Shandog is not one of them. That's laughable, you must be confused with someone else.
How would you know? youre the same. completely indoctrinated, the media and the oligarchy have complete control over your mind. You guys are just the latest incarnation of class traitors standing in opposition to any form of collective organisation... You are the factory scab, house negro, petit bourgeois.
 

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Is political correctness stifling debate?

Yes, just look at how this website is run. There is one rule for the left and a completely different set of rules for the right.
Examples?

Actually I find it weird that I'm even in this thread. I agree with it. I probably don't think it's as big of a deal as it's made out to be, and as I've demonstrated to FireKraquora , I believe a more serious instutionalisation of anti free speech principals have taken place in the form of the american president. His own subreddit will not even allow one iota of disagreement and certainly parts of the right wing loves it's information bubbles and lack of free thought as much as anyone.
 

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Examples?

Actually I find it weird that I'm even in this thread. I agree with it. I probably don't think it's as big of a deal as it's made out to be, and as I've demonstrated to FireKraquora , I believe a more serious instutionalisation of anti free speech principals have taken place in the form of the american president. His own subreddit will not even allow one iota of disagreement and certainly parts of the right wing loves it's information bubbles and lack of free thought as much as anyone.
True but I also think a lot of examples being discussed aren't PC - they're just different forms of tribalism from each side.
 

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How would you know? youre the same. completely indoctrinated, the media and the oligarchy have complete control over your mind. You guys are just the latest incarnation of class traitors standing in opposition to any form of collective organisation... You are the factory scab, house negro, petit bourgeois.
Keep going, sooner or later someone will reply to you and you will be able to copy and paste it in to your sociology assignment.
 

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Who said anything about relative numbers? What fantasy?

Holy shifting goalposts Batman!
Compared to say Gender Studies or English Departments - most academic sociologists are stats nerds who do endless surveys - maybe left wing but not in an obvious ideological way. Put it that way
 

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That's not what the North American surveys and studies have shown in the last few years.
My brother is a sociologist at UWA - he used to be an actuary. The academic sociologists I have met are pretty much like him - boring as bat s**t. I think may be the point Meds was making was that it is jejune and undergraduate to refer to "class traitors"
 

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But is it? I mean, he's not saying that transgenders do that. He's saying if you make an exception then the pedophiles could easily put on wigs and use that as an excuse if they are caught loitering in the bathroom.

I'm as open as the next person, but this shouldn't go through for that reason. Not because there is anything wrong with transgenders; but because there is something wrong with SOME people in general. I think if you are going to do this, then you need to go all the way and have unisex toilets. At least then it would be somewhat safer knowing that a father can go in with his daughter.
Mate - there are a lot of fugly women out there - theres some pretty attractive looking transgender women out there.

Ya not gonna know half the time
 
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