Is Richmond finally gone........

[Rooboy 96]

Well after the Roos made a lose everyone was after our blood... how come we don't hear the same crap, when it happens to a club that can't make the finals...

NO TALL POPPY TO CHOP DOWN HERE...

North Melbourne will be Premiers in 2001

 

[meg]

Richmond has had their fair share of injuries... probably the worst in the competition in season 2000. that's not to say that other teams haven't had a bad run with injuries, but in my mind, it's richmond especially.

With a full list, I think they could challenge most teams, even though as a carlton supporter, it pains me to say it

meg
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[TigerTank]

I suppose this is a rhetorical question Rooboy96?

I don't really have to waste your time and mine on this one do I?

Richmond posted its loss after two years of similar profit.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Kangaroos loss follows two years of merely breaking even?

A loss is a loss, and I'm sure no Richmond supporter is happy with the 2000 financial result. A couple of more years like that would spell disaster.

But the numbers I have (Sunday Age, July 23 - News 11) suggest Richmond has considerably more fat to survive on than the Roos, at least in the short term.

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[CJH]

I have requested a copy of the Full Financial Report from the Richmond Football Club, and will reserve any detailed objective comment until then.

Nonetheless, Richmond are in far healthier position than the Kangaroos because of these factors:

• Richmond made a profit of $686,938 for season 1999, which gives a net figure of $47,271 profit over the past 2 seasons.
• Richmond are debt free.

I do not have the precise figures for the 3 years previous to 1999, but the aggregate surplus would be in the order of $800,000 - $1,000,000. (This would be puffed up by the dividend from the sale of the ‘last rights’ bid).

I have posted my views on this loss ( http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/000020.html) and in no way find this loss acceptable but realise that we can afford to take this kind of hit and yet remain strong enough to survive it.

Sadly, I don’t think the same could be said for the Kangaroos.


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[Polka Dot]

Bit rich coming from you Rooboy talking about Essendon cheating ad nauseum whilst ignoring the others.
As for Norffs loss just think how lucky the AFL gave them $850,000 for their highly successfull Sydney venture.

 

[walshy1993]

the main reason richmond posted a loss, is because like most clubs they would have budgeted for the sale of waverly
of cause that didnt go ahead so clubs lost revenue

rich also said that they had extra costs this year because they had find a new coach (wouldnt they have these problems every 2nd year)
but that they expect to have a turn around and make a profit of 300,000 next year

the tiges are in much better shape than a lot of other clubs
eg- collingwood, nth melb, west bull, even carlton,

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

well rooboy its sad to say but north is one club who cant afford to record losses like they have done this year[latest rumour about 750]im sure we will get some flak no doubt however the one thing we have in our favour is we are debt free so this loss while it makes me cringe its a good loss if there is such a thing.
we needed to spend big on our footy department otherwise we would have fallen way behind the essendon.s and kangeroos etc.
injuries,colonial and those ex richmond members[bafoons]3000 all up i think didnt help the situation altho we still are having talks with the afl about compensation regarding colonial.
regarding why everyone hangs it on nth well its simple they have been a force in the league now for 10 yrs and like other sides of the same elk in the past everyone wants to see them fall i suppose its in our nature.

cheers!

 

[In The Black]

Better shape you reckon Walshy!!!

Third highest attendance, no apparent debt, no apparent financial bungling & they drop a lazy 1.3 mill & can't give any credible reason for the short fall other than to blame the AFL's fixturing {third highest attendance!} & restructuring!

Is Spud on a mill a year also?

I'll take Collingwood's profit for finishing second last over the Black Hole of Punt Road any day.

 

[ptw]

very good point I thought Walshy

I would like to see Richmond's forward budgets for the next 5 years to see when they budget to knife Spud

April ?

ptw

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

the pies profit=eaten up by its hugeeeeeeeeeeee debt yep id rather be in the pies shoes lol
cheers!

 

[Shinboners]

Tiger Fans

I don't think Rooboy is having a go at Richmond per se. What us North fans would like to know is why the media make more of a splash when the Tigers make a loss than when North do. In today's Hun, they printed plenty of reasons for the Tigers loss, and the article was tucked away at the bottom of page 67. Last week, they printed a story on a *projected* loss by North Melbourne (and who leaked it, North Melbourne or the AFL?), placed it under a nice big headline, and on the page behind the back page, and only gave one token reason for the loss and made no mention of any revenue that was to flow into the club between now and the start of next season.

You just have to wonder......

 

[Rooboy 96]

Shinners you would think the "NO TALL POPPY TO CHOP DOWN HERE" statement would have given it away... some people are so dumb... why would I want Richmond out of the league... it is not like they are a threat on the field... HA HA HA HA HA

North Melbourne will be Premiers in 2001

BTW hasn't Caroline Wilson been quite this week...

 

[Rooboy 96]

Originally posted by TigerTank:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Kangaroos loss follows two years of merely breaking even?

Ok If you want to be corrected... who better then me to do it... 1999 North made a profit of around $600,000... TIGERTANK YOU HAVE BEEN CORRECTED...

 

[Shinboners]

Well...they *are* Richmond fans....y'know, the kind of people that delude themselves into thinking that Matthew Richardson is as good as Wayne Carey......

 

[Rooboy 96]

Stop being so funny shinners...

 

[CJH]

Shinner’s

Ya gotta love these conspiracy theories!

I do understand that Rooboy96 isn’t taking a swipe at Richmond as such – just at the discrepancy in levels of reporting of the apparently similar problems experienced by both clubs.
The only key difference I can see is that a $600,000 loss is worse for the Kangaroos than it is for Richmond due to the large surpluses we have built up and also the absence of debt (notwithstanding the fact that I don’t know what North’s level of debt is). Even after a huge $600K+ hit, we are still a long way in the black.

Why do I think that North get more press focus? We all know that the ‘Roos are often mentioned as the team most likely to relocate next. When (if?) this happens it will be huge news. Recording a huge loss makes this one step closer, which in turn sells more papers.


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[TigerTank]

Originally posted by Rooboy 96:
Ok If you want to be corrected... who better then me to do it... 1999 North made a profit of around $600,000... TIGERTANK YOU HAVE BEEN CORRECTED...

According to the Sunday Age (July 23, 2000), in 1999 the Kangaroos made a profit of $87,000.

I'm afraid it was Richmond who made the profit of around $600,000 ($687,000 to be specific) in 1999.

Nevertheless Royboy96, Shinners, etc. I accept your point that it wasn't exactly fair of the media to make a bigger deal of the Kangaroos' loss than Richmonds'.

Why do you think the media (and the papers in particular) made a bigger deal out of the Kangaroos' loss?

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[Dan26]

Ah, the Kangaroos supporters clique has infested yet another thread. How surprising.

For what it's worth, Richmond are a power club (not necessarily on the field at the moment), with the 3rd, or 4th biggest supporter base in Melbourne. They have a big membership, passionate fans and a proud history. The Tiges are here to stay.

 

[Pessimistic]

Reel him in, Mike Shehan.

Walshy believes clubs budgeted for the sale of waverley - thats why they are posting losses

Nothing to do with Colonial being an economic lead baloon - Even though Richmond themselves said so ?

 

[TigerTank]

Ah! And so the Dan24-Rooboy 96 Show begins again.

CJH, Tiger-of-old, etc. just sit back now and enjoy the chaos!

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[Polka Dot]

Originally posted by Rooboy 96:
Shinners you would think the "NO TALL POPPY TO CHOP DOWN HERE" statement would have given it away... some people are so dumb... why would I want Richmond out of the league... it is not like they are a threat on the field... HA HA HA HA HA


You can see how we were confused Rooboy when you said TALL POPPY No one would have associated that with Norff!!

 

[Dan26]

TigerTank,

I don't mind arguing with Rooboy, because it is mostly innoncent slanging against each other.

You are more of a problem, for me, because some of the things you have said have reeked of crap - to put it bluntly.

Your idiotic comment about Essendon having no character a few weeks ago, was one of the top 10 "stupidist" things ever said on bigfooty.

 

[TigerTank]

Some people just don't know when to give up

Being subjective again are we Danny boy?
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[Michele]

Good to see all posters replying to this thread understood its message and were able to debate accordingly.

Why have North copped headlines predicting doom, gloom and disaster because of an rumoured loss, whilst Richmond actual loss is over $600,000.

If the report in today's paper is correct, (take everything with a grain if salt) Richmond made a PROFIT of over $600,000 last year and a LOSS of over $600,000 this year.
A VERY big turn around which the Richmond board had not anticpated.

The gist of Rooboy's topic is not the Richmond's loss, but the low-key reporting of it and that Richmond stalwart, Caroline Wilson, "shouting from the rooftops" re North's propsed loss, while saying NOTHING of the dilemma her own club faced.

She grilled Denis Pagan on 3aw over North's finances, will she do the same to Danny Frawley?

Extremely biased journalism!

Michele

 

[Carey_is_King]

I think you Tiger fans are missing a point. Having a bank balance and being debt free is good, but if it hasn't come from results on the field, you must be making it from somewhere else. Why not concentrate on that, whatever it is, and forget pretending that you can play and succeed. Perhaps you could become the AFL's first non-playing club. It would stop you being disappointed every year.

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