Is the Dogs Prelim the Greatest Moment in history?

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Certainly for a number of generations it would have to be.

The Raw emotion up in Sydney before, during and after the game was something to be experienced.

After 7 failed prelims including 3 where we could have won it certainly changed the club from the battling Bulldogs to those that could achieve what was previously thought to be impossible.

Interestingly it was the culmination of a 2 decade long turnaround of which Peter Gordon deserves enormous credit. Without him and those who supported him in his battle with the VFL in 1989 we would never have had 2016. From 1990 onwards our record is now that of a mid tier club not a battling club. Though I personally do not agree with all decisions, who does and only ever a small % are successful anyway, Peter Gordon, followed by David Smorgon, then back to Peter Gordon and their various teams over the years have provided the greatest stewardship in the history of the club since it entered into the VFL. The prelim win was a culmination of that stewardship.
 
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I have to ask, cos I couldn’t go but my nephews did and were just as emotional about this as the greatest day, but IF WE LOST THE GRAND FINAL would the Prelim still be the greatest day in history? Or is it the greatest day BECAUSE WE WON THE GRAND FINAL? I went crazy in front of the TV when we beat GWS but that whole Grand Final week, including finding out at 8:30 Monday night I secured STANDING tickets for the GF and the emotion that welled up inside as I grabbed my kids when Picken kicked that last goal was incredible. It seems though I’m a second rate supporter because I’m not one of the special group at Spotless who shared that special bond. Wouldn’t swap it for the Grand Final WIN ever. But don’t begrudge the joy felt by the “Spotless Specials”


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I might be one of the “Spotless Specials”, but I would have given anything to be one of the Perth Pearlers in that first final. Only about a 1000 of those.
 

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Before 2016, Preliminary finals were like a permanent road block for our club. A road block even St Kilda and Melbourne were able to travel through, not the doggies though. I went to Spotless with a sense of fatalism and dread, not optimism or hope. The life of a doggies supporter: thanks for the year boys, go down swinging whatever you do.

To assess that game objectively is impossible. I went with my best mate who is a Hawthorn member and had been to 5 of the Hawks Grand Final wins. He reckons our Prelim was the best Football experience he has had.

Gerard Whateley voiced a similar opinion. He said it was the best game he had witnessed in a decade or so.

The Grand Final was a completely different mindset. We were walk-up starts.
 

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I'd been to every prelim since 1985 up to 2016, to which I didnt attend for personal reasons. It would have been a bitter-sweet pill had we lost the GF the following week, but honestly the GF is what counts the most, IMO.
 

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I went with my best mate who is a Hawthorn member and had been to 5 of the Hawks Grand Final wins. He reckons our Prelim was the best Football experience he has had.
I took a magpie supporter - he still thanks me for taking him and talks about how good the game was ... and he was at the 2010 drawn GF.
 

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For me personally, the prelim was and forever will be comfortably the best football experience of my life. I can't even imagine a future scenario where that will change, it was simply unbelievable.
This:).

When re-watching all 4 of the finals, the Prelim is the one I choke up most in.
 

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For me personally, the prelim was and forever will be comfortably the best football experience of my life. I can't even imagine a future scenario where that will change, it was simply unbelievable.
I think because it was The First, an experience we'd never had before. We will win future PFs :) but as good as they will be, The First will always be the best.
 

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I was in a hotel room in Madrid, Spain.
My daughter was texting me score updates every few minutes.
My phone battery was low and I had lost the recharger.
We are in front, we are behind, Clay's kicked four.
On and on it went.
Down to the last couple of minutes "in front by 5 points".
Then nothing. Oh no, they kicked a goal on the siren and we lost by a point.
I'm thinking my daughter doesn't want to tell me the bad news.
The phone has run out of battery.
About 10 minutes later a text. "We are in the GF". Tears flowed.
Even on the other side of the world it was unbelievable.

When I got back and watched the replay, even more fantastic.
Somehow the Grand Final win seemed inevitable.

Love watching the prelim.
 
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For me personally, the prelim was and forever will be comfortably the best football experience of my life. I can't even imagine a future scenario where that will change, it was simply unbelievable.
Couldn't agree more. The noise when the players came for their warm sent chills down my body, bloody brilliant. At games end people unknown were hugging and being soaked with beer and anything else that was being held, unforgettable the sheer joy that moment brought. The hoards at Yass Macca's next day was also special, a weekend never to be forgotten.
 

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I'd been to every prelim since 1985 up to 2016, to which I didnt attend for personal reasons. It would have been a bitter-sweet pill had we lost the GF the following week, but honestly the GF is what counts the most, IMO.
I agree with that. Not many defeated grand finalists talk glowingly about their Prelim wins, it's the big dance only that provides ultimate satisfaction.
 
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No one is saying you are a 2nd rate supporter. I'm just saying if you weren't there you'll never know what it was like. I'm not saying that yours and anyone else's experience was not great, just that it was not at the place where it happened.

There are many reasons why I got more enjoyment and felt more emotional after the PF than I did the GF.

1. The lead up to the game at the pub. The bond between everyone that had travelled and the sense of excitement but pure fear.

2. After being at all 7 losing PF's and the pain that everyone of them caused, to finally win one and break the hoodoo was so special.

3. Sitting together with my 15 family and friends, something I wasn't able to do at the GF.

4. The after party at the Novotel with many former bulldog players and seeing the joy on their and all bulldog supporters faces.

GF day was special, but for me, GF day and the week leading up doesn't happen without PF. When we won the PF, I could finally look forward getting my hands on GF tickets, going to a GF week training session and the GF parade.

Let's hope we get to experience it all again one day soon.
All good with the different experience and with me I had all those same experiences on GF day - shared it with all the people I went to the footy with, including the 7 losing PFs ( I actually believe I’m the jinx as I was the missing link in Sydney when we finally won) and had those emotions you had at PF

Still want to know though if people would still feel the same about the PF if we lost the GF. I know we don’t get that GF experience without the PF win but is it the same unforgettable feeling if the END result is still no premiership?


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I might be one of the “Spotless Specials”, but I would have given anything to be one of the Perth Pearlers in that first final. Only about a 1000 of those.
All said and done just so stoked to be a member of the “Grateful ‘G’ers”!


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All said and done just so stoked to be a member of the “Grateful ‘G’ers”!


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I saw every final in person that year and I have seen every losing prem final (excluding 1985 as I was in London ) that was the greatest football moment and the greatest Bulldog game I have ever seen All I remember is hugging many over 50 old men after the game and shouting we have finally won a Prem final :)
 

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All good with the different experience and with me I had all those same experiences on GF day - shared it with all the people I went to the footy with, including the 7 losing PFs ( I actually believe I’m the jinx as I was the missing link in Sydney when we finally won) and had those emotions you had at PF

Still want to know though if people would still feel the same about the PF if we lost the GF. I know we don’t get that GF experience without the PF win but is it the same unforgettable feeling if the END result is still no premiership?


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A GF loss would have retrospectively tainted the PF to a degree. But to me the reason why the prelim was so special would remain, regardless - we were massive underdogs against the AFL's silver platter team, and had been there 7 times before and always fell just short.

All I wanted was to experience the Dogs in a grand final (the build up, the parade, watching them run out, actually going to a grand final after promising myself I wouldn't go to one until the Dogs were in it). I wasnt sure if I'd ever get to experience that, and the prelim made it happen. Not to mention how ridiculous the game itself was and the atmosphere at Spotless.

If we'd lost the next week I'd still look back on that prelim experience as the best thing I'd seen in football. But it would have left the door slightly ajar for a future grand final win to eclipse it.

Fortunately, that's only a hypothetical :)
 
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All good with the different experience and with me I had all those same experiences on GF day - shared it with all the people I went to the footy with, including the 7 losing PFs ( I actually believe I’m the jinx as I was the missing link in Sydney when we finally won) and had those emotions you had at PF

Still want to know though if people would still feel the same about the PF if we lost the GF. I know we don’t get that GF experience without the PF win but is it the same unforgettable feeling if the END result is still no premiership?


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Luckily, that's something I'll never be able to answer.
 

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I might be one of the “Spotless Specials”, but I would have given anything to be one of the Perth Pearlers in that first final. Only about a 1000 of those.
I was one of those Perth Pearlers ( I purchased flights for a birthday present for my son :) ) I think it was more like 500 then 1000 :)
p,s I sat next to Libba Snr on the plane on the way and when we landed the pilot played the Bulldogs theme song :)
 

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Yes, yes it is.

This is my post on the greatest day in the history on the game day thread:


My memories of this game:


- We flew up on the Friday, we booked literally as soon as the Hawthorn Final was over.

- Tried everything the night before to get my mind off the game - hotel pool, walk, gym, nothing worked.

- The morning of the game I was so nervous I couldn’t even eat. A few of my traveling party went to a pub beforehand but I was already in the midst of a nervous breakdown. Another prelim, against those ****ing assholes, the knowledge of what was on the line...I just couldn’t take it

- Arrived to the ground well early and chatting to other supporters and hearing their stories, driving up from Melbourne, flying in on the day

- The tension during this game was worse than any other game I’ve ever seen. I was on edge the whole time, roaring our goals with every ounce of energy and panicking like crazy at every one of there’s

- Strangely enough at 3 quarter time I saw Mitch Hahn in the crowd. I was tense and on edge and exchanged glances with him, we both kind of nodded at each other, as in, “Yes, this is tense, unbearable, I can’t stand it either, please may we win”

- When they got their second goal in the last quarter and were 14 up, I was so distraught and felt so sick I went to the bathroom, so I actually missed Dickson’s goal. Came back and had my parents and GF tell me we’re right back in it and not to worry, bless them

- The 3 or 4 minutes from when Bont’s goal to Cordy’s goal were insane. The bay I was in - all Bulldogs fans - going absolutely ape shit when JJ burst free. Screaming their lungs out “BONT! BONT!!!” when we saw him marauding forward. Going bananas again when Bonti slotted it, and the Bulldogs chant that went up after Bonti’s goal was the loudest Bulldogs/Footscray chant I’ve ever heard.

After Cordy’s goal, I remember thinking clearly a very dangerous thought “One more, and I think we’re home”. Of course as soon as I think that they went up and Patton scored a goal and then thought to myself “Yeah, right”

- After Cordy’s goal I was messaging about 3-4 people back home watching for time updates, and bless them, they provided one for me which I checked at every available bounce or throw in

- When Macrae marked, i went through so many emotions. Much though I love him, I wasn’t sure he’d nailed it, so at first I reassured myself that surely he’d at least put us in front. I almost had to turn away when he was running in - but the GF had my hand in hers and squeezed it tight and made me watch, and then us all jumping up and down when it sailed through.

- How I actually managed to watch the best passages of play I’ll never know but I did. When they kicked that point to bring it to 5 points I had that fatalistic Bulldogs thought of that’s it, they’ll get a goal and we’ll lose by a point. There was a tackle by McLean on one of their players near the interchange where I yelled Ball so hard my throat was in pure agony. Then when they launched that final inside 50 - again, no idea how I watched - but this was the one time in our history where our defence simply had to stand firm, and they did.

- When McLean got the free for too high it was the first time I thought we probably were going to win, then when we kicked backwards I nearly had yet another heart attack. When Stringer began running towards goal, the whole bay and crowd yelling themselves hoarse, and then Dickson marked we all began jumping up and down like crazy. Then a quick check of my phone “You’ve got it!” “You’ve won - 30 seconds!” I then told my family who all asked for reassurances, as did the fans in the row behind me and behind. When that siren went, I let out out the fiercest, most primal roar of my life - and the four of us were jumping up and down in the most chaotic and wonderful group hug ever, then we were hugging the strangers in the row behind and in front. Parents both in tears, me just jumping up and down hugging everyone and anything

- We raced around to the players race - I basically sprinted, I was on that much of an adrenaline high - and saw the players off and were still hugging every single Bulldogs fan we saw. The scene was the same when we left the ground - everyone still on a high and just wanting to release some emotion by embracing

- We also went over to the other side of the ground where our extended extended family were all watching and celebrated, plenty of old timers in that bunch all who’d waited a long time to see it happen

- We then caught an Uber from the ground - my choice, stupidly - which was ridiculously expensive, but we didn’t care, we were all on our phones messaging and watching highlights.

- As mentioned earlier, I was too nervous to eat during and before the game, so when we arrived at the airport and had checked in, I found a Hungry Jacks and burst in almost like Homer Simpson demanding 700 Krusty Burgers.

- We arrived home close to midnight, girlfriend is too tired emotionally and retires to bed, I decide to flick on the TV and you little ripper, the replay is starting in 10 minutes. Re-watched again, and have re-watched nearly 1000 times (at least) since then.


A magic night.
 
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