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I blame Paul Roos and the extreme defensive coaching mindset in his Swans days.
That’s what started it.
That’s what started it.
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OP is conveniently ignoring scores of 150 and 122, also I take it the term ‘dead’ really means ‘has defence finally’.
As for how to open the game up, I say leave it alone and refer to my explanation from yesterday
It's already a rule. And we can agree to disagree but I don't think the players are going to stand around with the ball on the deck and not pick it up.
The players are so fit now, 18 on the field is too many. I’d like to see it reduced to 16, not that I think it will ever happen...
No it's not. Not in the way you think it is.
Currently the rule is that a free for incorrect disposal is only where a player throws the ball or hands it to a teammate. Dropping the ball is not a free for incorrect disposal.
Refer to my explanation. The coaches are progressing - and some people don’t like the current direction of progression - but if they’re allowed to progress, there’ll be something you like come around soon enough. Instead the AFL pushes them back and, of course, coaches will firstly set out to regain what they have lost.I haven't ignored s**t, I'm pointing out the majority of the scores this round & which are representative of many rounds this season.
There should be the odd flogging, it's part of the game. What there shouldn't be is game after game with 3,4,5 goals a side kicked to 3QT & then a mad rush in the last quarter to win.
The game is devolving into who knows what.
Won’t change a single thing. It’s the coaches putting numbers around the ball, not the AFL. It’s the coaches putting every player in the defensive 50. It’s the players with shocking goal kicking and general disposal. Look at how Clarkson coaches the Hawks against GWS; would any easy rule change change that? None of that is the AFLs doing.
I agree that effective disposal needs to be umpired better, but if it gets too harsh players will just not go for the ball. Already you see players waiting to tackle rather then retrieve the ball themselves; if you reward the tackler even more you will see that increase tenfold.
I do not see that in the rules Rob, here is what they say. If I am wrong enlighten me.
17.6 HOLDING THE BALL 17.6.1 Spirit and Intention The Player who has Possession of the Football will be provided an opportunity to dispose of the football before rewarding an opponent for a Legal Tackle.
17.6.2 Free Kicks - Holding the Ball: Prior Opportunity
(a) Where a Player in Possession of the Football has had Prior Opportunity, a Free Kick shall be awarded if that Player does not Correctly Dispose of the football immediately when they are Legally Tackled.
(b) Where a Player in Possession of the Football has not had Prior Opportunity, the field Umpire shall throw up the football when a Player, in the act of applying a Legal Tackle, holds the football to the body of the Player being tackled or the football is otherwise pinned to the ground.
17.6.3 Free Kicks - Holding the Ball: Incorrect Disposal Where a Player in Possession of the Football has not had Prior Opportunity, a Free Kick shall be awarded if that Player elects to Incorrectly Dispose of the football when Legally Tackled. For the avoidance of doubt, a Player does not elect to Incorrectly Dispose of the football when:
(a) the Player genuinely attempts to Correctly Dispose of the football;
(b) the Legal Tackle causes the football to be dislodged from the Player’s possession.
17.6.4 Free Kicks - Holding the Ball: No Genuine Attempt Where a Player is in Possession of the Football and is able but does not genuinely attempt to Correctly Dispose of the football when Legally Tackled, a Free Kick shall be awarded.
Correct Disposal or Correctly Dispose: a Kick or Handball of the football by a Player. AFL rules page 11.
Refer to my explanation. The coaches are progressing - and some people don’t like the current direction of progression - but if they’re allowed to progress, there’ll be something you like come around soon enough. Instead the AFL pushes them back and, of course, coaches will firstly set out to regain what they have lost.
I agree, and have no idea why he is treated as a God, but I reckon Terry Wallace had a big hand in it too...I blame Paul Roos and the extreme defensive coaching mindset in his Swans days.
That’s what started it.
if by game you mean something resembling hot potato where 36 players with so little time or space just hand the ball around? It's borderline unwatchable, hence thread after thread are created on the very topicYet another thread about low scores. In between scoring there's a football game going on. Watch it.
No problem.
17.12 OTHER A Free Kick shall be awarded against a Player who:
(a) throws the football;
(b) hands the football to another Player;
This rule has to do with players being tackled - it quite clearly states that as long as you attempt to get rid of it by hand or foot you're OK. You don't get a free kick awarded against you if you simply don't dispose of it correctly by hand or foot (unless of course you're had prior). As it states, it's only where you deliberately don't dispose of it legally where you get penalised. Which rarely gets paid because it's hard for an umpire to tell whether a player does that.
I assume the situation you're talking about is where a player hasn't had prior.
Yep, Terry Wallace started it IMOI agree, and have no idea why he is treated as a God, but I reckon Terry Wallace had a big hand in it too...
I’m not trusting the coaches to do it. It’ll happen because that’s just how it works. You always need a point of difference to win a flag, that’s where the evolution of the game occurs.There is no way this (or any other professional game) can be entrusted to the coaches, surely you can see that.
listening to DOn Pike talk about the reaction to the recent 6 6 6 and kick out changes shows how far the coaches will go to control scoring against them. He basically said they introduced even more defensive tactics this year because they felt scoring would be easier. No matter what the AFL do the coaches will work a way to shut it down. Time to lift the value of scoring rather than trying to make it easier.
Yet another thread about low scores. In between scoring there's a football game going on. Watch it.
just came in here to say what a DUMB thread. waste of space
I agree, and have no idea why he is treated as a God, but I reckon Terry Wallace had a big hand in it too...