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Don't have to bro. I just read and understand. There now is no argument. Maybe that's the part you can't accept?

The Steele dossier, also known as the Trump–Russia dossier,[1][2][3] is a political opposition research report written from June to December 2016 containing allegations of misconduct, conspiracy, and co-operation between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the government of Russia prior to and during the 2016 election campaign. NPR has described the controversial opposition research as an "explosive dossier of unsubstantiated and salacious material about President Trump's alleged ties with Russia".[3] The dossier, leaked by BuzzFeed News in January 2017[4] without its author's permission,[5][6][7][8][9] is an unfinished 35-page compilation of raw intelligence[10][11] based on information from anonymous sourcesknown to the author, counterintelligence specialist[12] Christopher Steele,[13] a former head of the Russia Desk for British intelligence (MI6), written for the private investigative firm Fusion GPS, paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC).[14] The dossier's 17 reports allege that Trump campaign members and Russian operatives had conspired to co-operate in Russia's election interference to benefit Trump.[15] It also alleges that Russia sought to damage Hillary Clinton's candidacy, including sharing negative information about Clinton with the Trump campaign.[16] Several mainstream media outlets criticized BuzzFeed's decision to publish the reports without verifying their allegations,[17][18] while others defended its decision.[19]

In June 2016, Fusion GPS subcontracted Steele's firm to compile the dossier. DNC officials denied knowing their attorney had contracted with Fusion GPS, and Steele asserted he was not aware the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research until months after he contracted with Fusion GPS.[20][21] Following Trump's election as president, funding from Clinton and the DNC ceased, but Steele continued his research and was reportedly paid directly by Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn R. Simpson.[22] While compiling the dossier, Steele passed some of his findings to both British and American intelligence services.[23][24]

The media, the intelligence community, and most experts have treated the dossier with caution due to its unverified allegations, while Trump denounced it as fake news.[25] The U.S. intelligence community took the allegations seriously,[26]and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) investigated every line of the dossier and identified and spoke with at least two of Steele's sources.[27] In January 2017, the primary sub-source said that Steele misstated or exaggerated certain information.[28] The Mueller Report, a summary of the findings of the Special Counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, contained passing references to some of the dossier's allegations but little mention of its more sensational claims.[27]

Some aspects of the dossier have been corroborated,[29] in particular its main finding[30] that Putin and Russia actively favored Trump over Clinton[23] and that many Trump campaign officials and associates had multiple secret contacts with Russians.[31][32] However, many allegations in the dossier remain unverified or have been dismissed by authorities.[33][34][35] Adam Goldman and Charlie Savage, two New York Times reporters heavily involved in reporting on Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, have described it as "deeply flawed".[36] The Daily Telegraph has reported that anonymous sources believe Russian intelligence agencies may have sought to create doubt about the veracity of the dossier.[37]

The dossier played a central role in the seeking of FISA warrants on Carter Page[38] in terms of establishing probable cause.[39][40]

It appears that Durham theorizes that the Trump-Russia collusion narrative was a political attack manufactured by the Clinton campaign. Relying on Danchenko, Steele compiled the reports for Glenn Simpson, co-founder of intelligence firm Fusion-GPS, which specializes in digging up political dirt. Fusion-GPS was retained for the Trump project by Perkins-Coie, the Clinton campaign’s law firm.

The New York Times has finally gone on record to admit that the infamous "Steele Dossier" was a fabricated piece of propaganda that was designed to smear President Donald Trump.

The NY Times was a major promoter of the now-debunked conspiracy theory that President Trump colluded with Russia to win the election in 2016.

RE: the Mueller report:

Defenders of the dossier say its overall message — that Russia wanted to help Trump win the election, in part to sow discord in the United States — has been validated by the Mueller report. Detractors say many of the details have been proved false or remain unverified.

Neither case is confirmed by the Mueller report. Mueller was looking for criminal acts, not seeking to confirm the dossier. In fact, Steele is rarely mentioned in the more than 400 pages. So one cannot necessarily say the Mueller report ends the matter, given a continuing counterintelligence investigation.

“The Mueller Report substantiates the core reporting and many of the specifics in Christopher Steele’s 2016 memoranda, including that Trump campaign figures were secretly meeting Kremlin figures, that Russia was conducting a covert operation to elect Donald Trump, and that the aim of the Russian operation was to sow discord and disunity in the U.S. and within the Transatlantic Alliance,” Joshua A. Levy, counsel for Fusion GPS, told The Fact Checker. “To our knowledge, nothing in the Steele memoranda has been disproven.”

The Special Counsel investigation was an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, links between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials, and possible obstruction of justice by Trump and his associates. The investigation was conducted by special prosecutor Robert Mueller from May 2017 to March 2019. It was also called the Russia investigation, the Mueller probe, and the Mueller investigation.[1][2]

The Mueller report, officially titled Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election, is the official report documenting the findings and conclusions of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 United States presidential election, allegations of conspiracy or coordination between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and Russia, and allegations of obstruction of justice. The report was submitted to Attorney General William Barr on March 22, 2019,[1] and a redacted version of the 448-page report was publicly released by the Department of Justice (DOJ) on April 18, 2019. It is divided into two volumes. The redactions from the report and its supporting material were placed under a temporary "protective assertion" of executive privilege by then-President Trump on May 8, 2019, preventing the material from being passed to Congress,[2] despite earlier reassurance by Barr that Trump "confirmed" he would not exert privilege.[3]

Volume II of the report addresses obstruction of justice. The investigation intentionally took an approach that could not result in a judgment that Trump committed a crime.[18][19][20] This decision was based on an Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion that a sitting president is immune from criminal prosecution,[21][22][23] and Mueller's belief that it would be unfair to accuse the president of a crime even without charging him because he would have no opportunity to clear his name in court; furthermore it would undermine Trump's ability to govern and preempt impeachment.[19][22][24][21][25] As such, the investigation "does not conclude that the President committed a crime"; however, "it also does not exonerate him",[26][27] with investigators not confident of Trump's innocence.[28][29][30][31] The report describes ten episodes where Trump may have obstructed justice while president and one before he was elected,[32][33] noting that he privately tried to "control the investigation".[34][35][36] The report further states that Congress can decide whether Trump obstructed justice and take action accordingly,[19][37][38] referencing impeachment.[39][40]
 
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Don't have to bro. I just read and understand. There now is no argument. Maybe that's the part you can't accept?

The Steele dossier, also known as the Trump–Russia dossier,[1][2][3] is a political opposition research report written from June to December 2016 containing allegations of misconduct, conspiracy, and co-operation between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the government of Russia prior to and during the 2016 election campaign. NPR has described the controversial opposition research as an "explosive dossier of unsubstantiated and salacious material about President Trump's alleged ties with Russia".[3] The dossier, leaked by BuzzFeed News in January 2017[4] without its author's permission,[5][6][7][8][9] is an unfinished 35-page compilation of raw intelligence[10][11] based on information from anonymous sourcesknown to the author, counterintelligence specialist[12] Christopher Steele,[13] a former head of the Russia Desk for British intelligence (MI6), written for the private investigative firm Fusion GPS, paid for by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC).[14] The dossier's 17 reports allege that Trump campaign members and Russian operatives had conspired to co-operate in Russia's election interference to benefit Trump.[15] It also alleges that Russia sought to damage Hillary Clinton's candidacy, including sharing negative information about Clinton with the Trump campaign.[16] Several mainstream media outlets criticized BuzzFeed's decision to publish the reports without verifying their allegations,[17][18] while others defended its decision.[19]

In June 2016, Fusion GPS subcontracted Steele's firm to compile the dossier. DNC officials denied knowing their attorney had contracted with Fusion GPS, and Steele asserted he was not aware the Clinton campaign was the recipient of his research until months after he contracted with Fusion GPS.[20][21] Following Trump's election as president, funding from Clinton and the DNC ceased, but Steele continued his research and was reportedly paid directly by Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn R. Simpson.[22] While compiling the dossier, Steele passed some of his findings to both British and American intelligence services.[23][24]

The media, the intelligence community, and most experts have treated the dossier with caution due to its unverified allegations, while Trump denounced it as fake news.[25] The U.S. intelligence community took the allegations seriously,[26]and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) investigated every line of the dossier and identified and spoke with at least two of Steele's sources.[27] In January 2017, the primary sub-source said that Steele misstated or exaggerated certain information.[28] The Mueller Report, a summary of the findings of the Special Counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, contained passing references to some of the dossier's allegations but little mention of its more sensational claims.[27]

Some aspects of the dossier have been corroborated,[29] in particular its main finding[30] that Putin and Russia actively favored Trump over Clinton[23] and that many Trump campaign officials and associates had multiple secret contacts with Russians.[31][32] However, many allegations in the dossier remain unverified or have been dismissed by authorities.[33][34][35] Adam Goldman and Charlie Savage, two New York Times reporters heavily involved in reporting on Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, have described it as "deeply flawed".[36] The Daily Telegraph has reported that anonymous sources believe Russian intelligence agencies may have sought to create doubt about the veracity of the dossier.[37]

The dossier played a central role in the seeking of FISA warrants on Carter Page[38] in terms of establishing probable cause.[39][40]

It appears that Durham theorizes that the Trump-Russia collusion narrative was a political attack manufactured by the Clinton campaign. Relying on Danchenko, Steele compiled the reports for Glenn Simpson, co-founder of intelligence firm Fusion-GPS, which specializes in digging up political dirt. Fusion-GPS was retained for the Trump project by Perkins-Coie, the Clinton campaign’s law firm.

The New York Times has finally gone on record to admit that the infamous "Steele Dossier" was a fabricated piece of propaganda that was designed to smear President Donald Trump.

The NY Times was a major promoter of the now-debunked conspiracy theory that President Trump colluded with Russia to win the election in 2016.

RE: the Mueller report:

Defenders of the dossier say its overall message — that Russia wanted to help Trump win the election, in part to sow discord in the United States — has been validated by the Mueller report. Detractors say many of the details have been proved false or remain unverified.

Neither case is confirmed by the Mueller report. Mueller was looking for criminal acts, not seeking to confirm the dossier. In fact, Steele is rarely mentioned in the more than 400 pages. So one cannot necessarily say the Mueller report ends the matter, given a continuing counterintelligence investigation.

“The Mueller Report substantiates the core reporting and many of the specifics in Christopher Steele’s 2016 memoranda, including that Trump campaign figures were secretly meeting Kremlin figures, that Russia was conducting a covert operation to elect Donald Trump, and that the aim of the Russian operation was to sow discord and disunity in the U.S. and within the Transatlantic Alliance,” Joshua A. Levy, counsel for Fusion GPS, told The Fact Checker. “To our knowledge, nothing in the Steele memoranda has been disproven.”

The Special Counsel investigation was an investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, links between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials, and possible obstruction of justice by Trump and his associates. The investigation was conducted by special prosecutor Robert Mueller from May 2017 to March 2019. It was also called the Russia investigation, the Mueller probe, and the Mueller investigation.[1][2]

The Mueller report, officially titled Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election, is the official report documenting the findings and conclusions of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 United States presidential election, allegations of conspiracy or coordination between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and Russia, and allegations of obstruction of justice. The report was submitted to Attorney General William Barr on March 22, 2019,[1] and a redacted version of the 448-page report was publicly released by the Department of Justice (DOJ) on April 18, 2019. It is divided into two volumes. The redactions from the report and its supporting material were placed under a temporary "protective assertion" of executive privilege by then-President Trump on May 8, 2019, preventing the material from being passed to Congress,[2] despite earlier reassurance by Barr that Trump "confirmed" he would not exert privilege.[3]

Volume II of the report addresses obstruction of justice. The investigation intentionally took an approach that could not result in a judgment that Trump committed a crime.[18][19][20] This decision was based on an Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) opinion that a sitting president is immune from criminal prosecution,[21][22][23] and Mueller's belief that it would be unfair to accuse the president of a crime even without charging him because he would have no opportunity to clear his name in court; furthermore it would undermine Trump's ability to govern and preempt impeachment.[19][22][24][21][25] As such, the investigation "does not conclude that the President committed a crime"; however, "it also does not exonerate him",[26][27] with investigators not confident of Trump's innocence.[28][29][30][31] The report describes ten episodes where Trump may have obstructed justice while president and one before he was elected,[32][33] noting that he privately tried to "control the investigation".[34][35][36] The report further states that Congress can decide whether Trump obstructed justice and take action accordingly,[19][37][38] referencing impeachment.[39][40]
Would you agree that you don't know what you're talking about?

It's fun watching you pretend.
 
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Watch the clips. It was a pivotal document with regard to the first impeachment.

No it wasnt?

And Im super confused. Literally the central point of the dossier that ''Kremlin-linked operatives ran an elaborate operation to promote Trump and hurt Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton'' and the fact that many in the Trump team had contacts with Russian operatives while all this was going on, have all been proved and accepted.

None of that is in doubt. I cant speak to the specific allegations within the document itself though. Only that its core premise has turned out to be 100 percent true.
 
No it wasnt?

And Im super confused. Literally the central point of the dossier that ''Kremlin-linked operatives ran an elaborate operation to promote Trump and hurt Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton'' and the fact that many in the Trump team had contacts with Russian operatives while all this was going on, have all been proved and accepted.

None of that is in doubt. I cant speak to the specific allegations within the document itself though. Only that its core premise has turned out to be 100 percent true.

Russian operatives claim to have compromising personal ...

And the Steele Dossier has now been debunked as BS. Or do you still think it's real?
 
MUST RESPOND IN BIGGER FONT AS WE CAN'T PUT TOGETHER A COHERENT ARGUMENT!
#qanon peanut.

Balls In and FireKrakouer is this one of your moronic Alt accounts?

Lel, the bloody size wouldn't change because of the article i quoted. But, point taken. Thank you. And the abuse ism't necessary. Do you still believe the dossier is real?
 
Lel, the bloody size wouldn't change because of the article i quoted. But, point taken. Thank you. And the abuse ism't necessary. Do you still believe the dossier is real?
Do try and put an articulate point across with your "own" point of view with facts and data, rather than "here's a Russell Brand Video, he speaks for me, you should watch"! Or simply cutting and pasting entire Wikipedia articles and saying "refute this"; that just reinforces the view that the Trump and Qanan are a bunch I low skilled, low-educated peanuts!

#qanon peanut.

I'ii ask you directly, are you and alt for Balls In or even FireKrakouer, they've been shown to have NFI about what they are talking about most of the time, so you seem to be right online!
 
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Do try and put an articulate point across with your "own" point of view with facts and data, rather than "here's a Russell Brand Video, he speaks for me, you should watch"! Or simply cutting and pasting entire Wikipedia articles and saying "refute this"; that just reinforces the view that the Trump and Qanan are a bunch I low skilled, low-educated peanuts!

#qanon peanut.

I'ii ask you directly, are you and alt for Balls In or even FireKrakouer, they've been shown to have NFI about what they are talking about most of the time, so you seem to be right online!
Not guilty. I've chilled out a lot since getting sober, I'm actually a pretty reasonable, sensational guy these days!
 

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Do try and put an articulate point across with your "own" point of view with facts and data, rather than "here's a Russell Brand Video, he speaks for me, you should watch"! Or simply cutting and pasting entire Wikipedia articles and saying "refute this"; that just reinforces the view that the Trump and Qanan are a bunch I low skilled, low-educated peanuts!

#qanon peanut.

I'ii ask you directly, are you and alt for Balls In or even
MUST RESPOND IN BIGGER FONT AS WE CAN'T PUT TOGETHER A COHERENT ARGUMENT!
#qanon peanut.

Balls In and FireKrakouer is this one of your moronic Alt accounts?
Are you sad that you got duped, is that what this post is about?
 

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Pretty clear what has gone down.

Russians hacked Hillary and exposed her pay for play business. Assange published it all and Americans voted Trump. Like magic this dossier then appeared to change the subject and put the focus back onto Trump.

Trump was ultimately impeached for outing Biden's pay for play business in Ukraine (that in part loosely maintained/is based on this made up narrative).
 
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Are you sad that you got duped, is that what this post is about?
Come on Balls In, is your alt account? You bought in balls and all with the Trump Qanan, pizza shop and any other outlandish claim Trump threw out in the hope of riping money out his moronic supporters' pockets! Hell you're in so deep into the Trump rubbish, a clown who calls himself a QAnon Shaman, and goes around wearing horns, and admitted he was brainwashed by an online cult, appears like a stable choice compared to you!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05...-to-be-brainwashed-donald-trump-fox/100177896

Capitol Hill rioter 'QAnon Shaman' to argue he was brainwashed by online cult, as lawyer plans 'dumbass' defence

So are we going to go back to the election fraud thread that you avoid like a bath?

#clown
#ConservativePeanut
#BDStupid
 

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Come on Balls In, is your alt account? You bought in balls and all with the Trump Qanan, pizza shop and any other outlandish claim Trump threw out in the hope of riping money out his moronic supporters' pockets! Hell you're in so deep into the Trump rubbish, a clown who calls himself a QAnon Shaman, and goes around wearing horns, and admitted he was brainwashed by an online cult, appears like a stable choice compared to you!!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-05...-to-be-brainwashed-donald-trump-fox/100177896



So are we going to go back to the election fraud thread that you avoid like a bath?

#clown
#ConservativePeanut
#BDStupid
Your posts have nothing to do with this topic and are not representative of anything I've ever said. Stop tagging me into threads I can't post in.
 
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They went after him because he asked what that clear quid pro quo Biden was on camera bragging about.

Yep. Thats all he did, just asked about that thing Biden did as part of his duties as VP, per official US policy and sanctioned by the IMF and about 10 other countries. Just asked about that thing a GOP senate committee investigated and declared a scathing case of 'its a bad look'. Just asked about it when he was 2 and a half years into his term, roundabout the time Biden emerged as favourite for the democrat nomination. Good ol' anti-corruption crusader and notable do-gooder Donnie Trump.

You don't wanna buy a bridge do you Tayls? :tearsofjoy:
 
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Pretty clear what has gone down.

Russians hacked Hillary and exposed her pay for play business. Assange published it all and Americans voted Trump. Like magic this dossier then appeared to change the subject and put the focus back onto Trump.

Trump was ultimately impeached for outing Biden's pay for play business in Ukraine (that in part loosely maintained/is based on this made up narrative).

Ah yes, the pay for play business a GOP senate committee specifically invested and cleared. I'm sure they just missed some crucial piece of info, you'd have the good oil no doubt. How is the Chinese yen going, by the way?

You guys :tearsofjoy:
 

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Ah yes, the pay for play business a GOP senate committee specifically invested and cleared. I'm sure they just missed some crucial piece of info, you'd have the good oil no doubt. How is the Chinese yen going, by the way?

You guys :tearsofjoy:
Stop it Bourbs now is not the time to double down. The corruption is in plain sight.
 
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