Is there a place for the Drop Kick today

Discussion in 'AFL - The Australian Football League' started by maroon and blue, Jan 4, 2018.

Put it out there
  1. maroon and blue

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    Is there any part of the ground that a drop kick might work, especially for the players up forward who struggle with the drop punt?
     

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  2. demondavey

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    I'd like to see a drop kick for goal NRL style. From what I've seen it's incredibly accurate.
     
  3. NoobPie

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    I think the place kick off a tee is certainly the most accurate as it eliminates the drop

    In terms of the NRL, drop goals are overwhelmingly from 25 to 35 metres directly in front by the best or second best kick in the team

    I would have thought if drop kicks were still a useful technique in Australian football they would still be used.
     
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    Nah I think Fev's time has been and gone. Maybe coaching? ;) :D
     
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    Perhaps if you are trying to hit an opponent in the head. :) Where you strike the ball is probably below the players eye line, so they lose sight of the ball for a second or two and you don't strike it as hard as a regular punt or torp so it won't do any real damage. But it would probably be good enough to get a player off the ground for 20 minutes or so under the concussion rule.
     
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    Yes, but only when a player has free kick 10m out from goal and they're down by 5 points with 10 seconds left in the Grand Final.
     
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    It's an incredibly quick, straight and low pass that would be perfect for hitting up a leading forward if you had a bit of space on the run. Given many players struggle to execute a drop punt though, the chances of it being employed are zero.
     
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    That was called a stab pass.
     
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  11. NoobPie

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    That's correct, innovated by Collingwood at the start of the last century....superseded by a drop punt version which itself is used far less because a chip into the space of a leading player is obviously now considered optimal all things considered.

    Interestingly, some Collingwood players were using stab kicks into the forward line against West Coast last year presumably to negate their intercept marking game. The risk is it is cut off at the first line in the zone

    Which of any of the 800 players in the competition "struggle to execute a drop punt"? Seriously. The pre-professional game of Australian football (the classical version if you like) was a great game in open play. The modern version is phenomenally amazing. The players are far more skilled. They are also far more organised and fitter.
     
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    over 20m you can get a drop kick fly straight, no tumble, chest high very easily. like the torp though it requires a different grip/gait so it's been coached out in favour of consistent drop punts.
     
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    I found It easier to kick drop kicks at top pace than drop punts. Drop punts for me always felt a bit more rushed and a lot less controlled, but something about drop kicks just made it so much easier to get the timing right and hit sweetly.

    Drop kicks are also much flatter, especially off one step. You don't need to have the right technique or as much momentum to get a decent trajectory. I also found it better for accuracy with short range kicks as you don't feel the need to guide the ball with your hand or weight it by foot.

    You'd struggle to use it in AFL though, the speed/lack of space means that extra split second on the drop will just get knocked off your kick, or you'll struggle to thread it through the gaps which you need to do because of the trajectory.



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    And seeing how I didn't really answer the question:

    Tight angles where you can't afford shape the ball naturally, ie a right footer in yhe right picket.

    Also good for kicking into the wind as they're alot punchier and not as loopy.

    Can also be good for kicking it to forwards on the lead where you want to keep it away from the defender from being able to get a fist in.

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    I'm not talking about a stab pass, I'm talking about a drop kick that is, yes, 'stabbed' if you like. Done properly, the ball can travel no more than a metre or so from the ground.

    As for the last part, spoken like a man that's never seen Sam Kerridge play.
     
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    Like I was saying, the original "stab pass" was a drop kick that Collingwood innovated in 1902 or something....the drop punt stab pass probably has a marginally higher "lowest possible arc" than the drop kick stab pass, sure

    I was more focussed on the kid with number 5 tearing us up last year. Overall, players are far more skillful by foot than yesteryear...cos they train a lot more....
     
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    In general, sure, but it depends on the particular skill. In close, players are miles ahead of even a decade ago. Snaps, dribble kicks - yep. Hitting up a player on the lead by putting it in front of his teammate so he can run on to it without it being spoiled...hmm...maybe it depends on which team you watch the most.
     
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    Drop kicks aren't more accurate than drop punts. The kicks of the tees are because they eliminate the ball drop
     
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    I think they are significantly better at this as well...I suspect people who think otherwise are guilty of 2 errors

    1. A nostalgic bias, remembering the past through rose coloured lens
    2. A failure to account for the far higher pressure and far less time and space that players are required to execute their kicking skills nowadays

    Anyway, you can certainly be forgiven for enjoying your football less now than 20 years ago ;-)
     
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    Ok
     
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    Need to see more scissor kicks as well.
     
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    Drop kicks are reserved for the lodge these days
     
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    just go to the hawthorn board. Plenty there
     
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    Someone should do a gag about a person who’s a drop kick, not the actual kick.