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FIGJAM said:
Funny how you place credence in an unscientific "experiment" when it suits your needs.

Randi has so many "small print" lines in the conditions of his offer, there's practically no way anyone can win, even if they're bloody close!

He's a real trustworthy guy!

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In June 1999, a Mr Rico Kolodzey of Germany wrote to James Randi and challenged for the reputed $1 million prize. Mr Kolodzey is one of several thousand people who believe and claim that they can live on water alone, absorbing 'prana' or life energy from space around them.

Now this claim is, to say the least, extraordinary. It is perhaps even more extraordinary that an individual should offer to prove this claim by submitting himself to a controlled test.

The claim is one that most people would treat with great skepticism, and might well run a mile from. But James Randi is not most people -- he is the person who has publicly claimed that he has $1 million on offer to all comers who challenge him and are willing to submit to rigorous testing, as Mr Kolodzey has offered to do.

It should not be very difficult to arrange a test of Mr Kolodzey's claim. All that is needed is to lock him in a police cell, under CCTV observation, with only water to drink. If he experiences significant measurable weight loss, or asks for food, then his claim is false. If, on the other hand, he does somehow survive on water alone, then Randi is wrong, conventional science is wrong, and Mr Kolodzey has won $1 million.

It ought therefore to have been a very simple matter for Randi to offer to lock Mr Kolodzey up for a week or two. But that is not what Randi did. Instead he ignored Mr Kolodzey entirely. When Mr Kolodzey wrote again to Randi asking about his challenge, he received the following email from Randi (later confirmed with a hard copy):-

Date: 6/18/99 12:03 PM

Mr. Kolodzey:

Don't treat us like children. We only respond to responsible claims.

Are you actually claiming that you have not consumed any food products except water, since the end of 1998? If this is what you are saying, did you think for one moment that we would believe it?

If this is actually your claim, you're a liar and a fraud. We are not interested in pursuing this further, nor will we exchange correspondence with you on the matter.

Signed, James Randi.
(A hard-copy of this letter will be sent by post to you, today.)

James Randi Educational Foundation
201 S.E. 12th Street (Davie Blvd.)
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316-1815


So, now we know exactly how much confidence can be placed in James Randi's "challenge" and exactly how Randi behaves when confronted by a real challenger, willing to submit to rigorous scientific testing of his claims.


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FIGJAM, Randi is not a scientist. He's an ex-magician who gets off on debunking frauds. He's also a private citizen who can write all the letters he likes claiming people are liars and frauds. He has tested any number of challengers for the million, and no one has ever come close. It's his challenge, he can decide who gets to play.

I note that you havent provided an example of a remote viewing challenger that has been turned away by Randi.

I'm just pointing out, that if its an everyday, almost 100% accurate occurance as you claim, not only would Randi have lost his million, but the spy satellite construction, delivery and maintenance industries would have shut up shop in light of the far superior and obviously cheaper remote viewing competitors. Private eyes would be hiring them to save on the costs of tiny cameras. I'd learn it and spend all day peeking into modelling shoots, strip clubs and Area 51, all from the comfy retreat of my couch.

But its not an everyday ocurance. It's a load of arse.
 

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FIGJAM said:
Sounds like a lot of work on my part, which is why I asked you to do it in the first place.

A chance at a million bucks though sounds like it's worth a crack though!

but you are the one claiming it works. I dont believe it works, you obviously do.

Why should i waste several hours/days/months/years on something I believe to be complete bollocks?
 

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MonkeyButterer said:
FIGJAM, Randi is not a scientist. He's an ex-magician who gets off on debunking frauds. He's also a private citizen who can write all the letters he likes claiming people are liars and frauds. He has tested any number of challengers for the million, and no one has ever come close. It's his challenge, he can decide who gets to play.

I note that you havent provided an example of a remote viewing challenger that has been turned away by Randi.

I'm just pointing out, that if its an everyday, almost 100% accurate occurance as you claim, not only would Randi have lost his million, but the spy satellite construction, delivery and maintenance industries would have shut up shop in light of the far superior and obviously cheaper remote viewing competitors. Private eyes would be hiring them to save on the costs of tiny cameras. I'd learn it and spend all day peeking into modelling shoots, strip clubs and Area 51, all from the comfy retreat of my couch.

But its not an everyday ocurance. It's a load of arse.
Ignore my 100% claim, as I may have got a bit over-excited. It happens close to draft time!!

These guys put in a pretty serious challenge, but the design of the test meant that the results were erratic.

Still, there's some very interesting matches and one's which wouldn't be attribuatble to anything other than either remote viewing, or cheating.

http://home.hawaii.rr.com/cooljerk/

I just don't get why people would bother learning this ********, if they weren't actually getting hits. Why would you cheat yourself??

Eitherway, we'll agree to disagree. I still maintain the existence of the Universal Consciousness and encourage science to investigate it more thoroughly.
 
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