Is there too much advertising/ corporate branding in AFL?

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I always wonder how much value there can be in putting your brand name on things.

I get it if your a new company eg Magellan ashes. If I was an investor I now know about Magellan but I know about Toyota and have for most of my life when I bought a new car a couple of years ago I looked at Toyota and every other brand in my price range and chose based on value for money feature etc.

Just seems weird to me, must be some sub-conscious s**t going on.


I read an interesting article about KFC's sponsorship of the cricket last year. Basically, KFC's strategy was to aggressively overcome the perception of a US import, against the more quintessentially Australian Red Rooster. Perhaps there is an element of this in Toyota's strategy?
 
English premier league shirts are far more dominated by the primary sponsor - indeed it is the dominating characteristic off most kits - than the AFL. American sport does not have a culture of jumper signage for whatever historical reason but they make up for it in other ways!

Nothing to do with "compensating" at all.
English premier league shirts are far more dominated by the primary sponsor - indeed it is the dominating characteristic off most kits - than the AFL. American sport does not have a culture of jumper signage for whatever historical reason but they make up for it in other ways!

Nothing to do with "compensating" at all.
That's wrong have a closer look
 
American sport does not have a culture of jumper signage, because the have respect for their jumper and traditions.

So european soccer doesn't?

What do you make of Frank de Borge's liking of soccer not having advertising on the pitch? For me, with Aus football having both advertising on the ground and on the jumpers, I can't really see how the pitch is more sacrosanct than the shirt but, this is how soccer people view it.

For me, growing up with a sport where the members own the clubs, I cannot reconcile how people in the US and england deal with private ownership and still convince themselves this entities are still worth supporting with any passion

Truth is, your concept of what is "good" is likely to be shaped by what you've grown up with.....in either a positive bias for most or negative bias for those susceptible to the cultural cringe
 

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The Epl one has the Epl logo and Emirates, that's two .The Collingwood has Emirites in the colour red, Afl logo , another sponser in between the two and one bottom right,plus the 3 others on the shorts,plus the big one on back of the jumper( in different to club colours again), which Epl doesn't have .
 
The Epl one has the Epl logo and Emirates, that's two .The Collingwood has Emirites in the colour red, Afl logo , another sponser in between the two and one bottom right,plus the 3 others on the shorts,plus the big one on back of the jumper( in different to club colours again), which Epl doesn't have .

The EPL also has the apparel sponsor. Point is though they major sponsor is far more dominant
 
The Richmond jumper is a better example. View attachment 450130 View attachment 450131
in the EPL they have one large sponsor on the front, and a clean back. In AFL there is one small one in the top left corner (Emirates, Hyundai, fujitsu, jeep) and then a large one on the back.

As the front is the more important part of the jumper, the EPL has more dominant sponsorships.
 
The EPL also has the apparel sponsor. Point is though they major sponsor is far more dominant
I wouldn't say more prominent, the word Jeep in black, against a yellow background is far ore prominent.The green bingle colour shouldn't be on the jumper as it stands out too much.Yellow and black, not yellow black and green
 
Prefer the European soccer style of having the sponsor try to colour in with the jumper. Would ******* hate for the AFL to end up like the NRL where they're garish and shined up like bumper stickers.
 
in the EPL they have one large sponsor on the front, and a clean back. In AFL there is one small one in the top left corner (Emirates, Hyundai, fujitsu, jeep) and then a large one on the back.

As the front is the more important part of the jumper, the EPL has more dominant sponsorships.
You forgot the yellow puma at the top, the AFL logo in red (not white /neutral ),the add on bottom left of jumper and the 3more on the shorts
 

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You forgot the yellow puma at the top, the AFL logo in red (not white /neutral ),the add on bottom left of jumper and the 3more on the shorts

At best you are splitting hairs and your argument that EPL shirts are less commercialised than AFL jumpers is weak and subjective

Your other comment about "fans not standing for it" in terms of why US sport doesn't have jumper signage is an interesting one given that private franchise owners can and do pick up and move their franchises to new cities offering better stadium deals, completely "disenfranchising" their fans in one fell swoop....doesn't seem like a particularly powerful fan base

in the EPL they have one large sponsor on the front, and a clean back. In AFL there is one small one in the top left corner (Emirates, Hyundai, fujitsu, jeep) and then a large one on the back.

As the front is the more important part of the jumper, the EPL has more dominant sponsorships.

This is supported to some degree by the much smaller signage on the front of the AFL jumpers having higher value than the bigger one at the base of the back
 
At best you are splitting hairs and your argument that EPL shirts are less commercialised than AFL jumpers is weak and subjective

Your other comment about "fans not standing for it" in terms of why US sport doesn't have jumper signage is an interesting one given that private franchise owners can and do pick up and move their franchises to new cities offering better stadium deals, completely "disenfranchising" their fans in one fell swoop....doesn't seem like a particularly powerful fan base



This is supported to some degree by the much smaller signage on the front of the AFL jumpers having higher value than the bigger one at the base of the back
It's not just about comparing it to the EPL or any other sport really, it's about having too much 'branding' on everything.Nothings sacred anymore , not the jumper, the ball ect. The Collingwood jumper now has red in it now thanks to you selling out to Emirates .Its red on front and back hence the joke, Whats black and white and read all over? Answer; A modern day Collingwood jumper! Its starting to look like Essendon! images (47).jpeg unnamed (11).jpg
 
The major American sports leagues seems to do alright without sponsorship logos plastered all over their uniforms
Yes I agree, the NBA has hardly anything except their own name and logo.
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It's not just about comparing it to the EPL or any other sport really, it's about having too much 'branding' on everything.Nothings sacred anymore , not the jumper, the ball ect. The Collingwood jumper now has red in it now thanks to you selling out to Emirates .Its red on front and back hence the joke, Whats black and white and read all over? Answer; A modern day Collingwood jumper! Its starting to look like Essendon! View attachment 450153 View attachment 450154

Sorry, you've tried to make your point but most have disagreed with you.

Emirates is not on the front and back. It is on the front for home games and back for away games. CGU is our second sponsor and for home games that gets them a spot on the shorts and the spot under the number on the back. I would personally prefer the current set up to having a sponsor plastered over the middle of the front like in soccer and rugby league. Each to their own

My issue with the (dated at least 4 years) collingwood versus essendon photo is that Collingwood should be wearing the clash jumper....it certainly isn't "starting to look like essendon" though. that's ridiculous
 
Sorry, you've tried to make your point but most have disagreed with you.

Emirates is not on the front and back. It is on the front for home games and back for away games. CGU is our second sponsor and for home games that gets them a spot on the shorts and the spot under the number on the back. I would personally prefer the current set up to having a sponsor plastered over the middle of the front like in soccer and rugby league. Each to their own

My issue with the (dated at least 4 years) collingwood versus essendon photo is that Collingwood should be wearing the clash jumper....it certainly isn't "starting to look like essendon" though. that's ridiculous
Your missing thr point which is people should be able to sit down and watch the footy without the overload of advertisements and corporate branding. It takes away from the aesthetic of the game and the enjoyment.These corporate w***ers have convinced clubs to put extra colours on their jumpers eg bingle, Emirates It's bullshit. The clubs are prostituting themselves and getting not enough in return. The advertising on the ball is only about 50,000 a year I estimate, what a joke
 
Your missing thr point which is people should be able to sit down and watch the footy without the overload of advertisements and corporate branding. It takes away from the aesthetic of the game and the enjoyment.These corporate ******s have convinced clubs to put extra colours on their jumpers eg bingle, Emirates It's bullshit. The clubs are prostituting themselves and getting not enough in return. The advertising on the ball is only about 50,000 a year I estimate, what a joke
Bet you would be singing a different tune if it was per ball
 
I'm not sure why your happy with the red on Collingwood's jumper, you should be against it.The corporates don't need you to defend them, they got enough money already.Its about time the public stopped getting bent over

Nobody is getting "bent over" and I am not defending corporates

In a perfect world I'd rather a Collingwood jumper clean of sponsors logos. That said, I don't know why I should be "against it". I much prefer that subtler positioning of the major sponsor compared to other (non american) sports.

Overall, I am far happier with the AFL's degree of commercialisation (taking in to account: ticket prices, commercialised clinics, private franchise ownership etc) than US sports and english soccer
 

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