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So in other words he was solid without doing anything to really stand out?

I’m not sure why that means he’s not up to AFL standard 10 games in to his career...?
To be AFL standard you have to have a point of difference and so far Appleby doesn’t have one at AFL level.
 

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To be AFL standard you have to have a point of difference and so far Appleby doesn’t have one at AFL level.
Appleby was solid in his first handful of games. I would argue as solid as Maynard. There is plenty of scope for him to develop and improve with experience. Whether he capable of holding down a full time position in our lineup may be as much about competition for spots as it is his ability to make it a AFL level.
 

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To be AFL standard you have to have a point of difference and so far Appleby doesn’t have one at AFL level.
I'd argue being our only actual lock down defender qualifies as a point of difference.

Because outside Maynard who only VERY late started to beat opponents in one on one contests with any kind of regularity, Appleby is our only defender with an actual legitimate ability to...you know, defend.

Goldsack does the job when not put outside his weight division.
 

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I'd argue being our only actual lock down defender qualifies as a point of difference.

Because outside Maynard who only VERY late started to beat opponents in one on one contests with any kind of regularity, Appleby is our only defender with an actual legitimate ability to...you know, defend.

Goldsack does the job when not put outside his weight division.
The problem is Appleby hasn’t shut down anyone of note yet, so I wouldn’t consider it a point of difference until he does.
 

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The problem is Appleby hasn’t shut down anyone of note yet, so I wouldn’t consider it a point of difference until he does.
wait what?

Let's not pretend Apples is a full back.

If you look at Collingwood's proud history of turnung nothing players into superstars for ONE week, Appleby is exactly the sort of defender we need. He's the guy that shuts down any potential threat from a no name forward that decides to have a day in the sun ONLY against Collingwood.

I'm completely ok with that.

It's hard ot beat someone of "note" when you're the 6th defender in your team. How many teams have 6 forwards you have to worry about? I feel like we're the only team with 6 dangerous 4 goal plus forwards. Cox, Elliott, De Goey, Hoskin-Elliott, Mihocek, Stephenson, Thomas. Make that 7.
 

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I'd argue being our only actual lock down defender qualifies as a point of difference.

Because outside Maynard who only VERY late started to beat opponents in one on one contests with any kind of regularity, Appleby is our only defender with an actual legitimate ability to...you know, defend.

Goldsack does the job when not put outside his weight division.
Crisp plays very attackingly, but he's magnificent in a one on one contest. I'd back Howe in a one on one against most blokes in the league.
 
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Crisp plays very attackingly, but he's magnificent in a one on one contest. I'd back Howe in a one on one against most blokes in the league.
You are correct they both very good 1 on 1 players with good disposal generally but they are both over a hundred games in not less than ten with should be a big consideration.
 

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The problem is Appleby hasn’t shut down anyone of note yet, so I wouldn’t consider it a point of difference until he does.
So every team fields developing players then.

Can you let us know his opponent breakdown across those 9 games and what they were able to do while he was opposed to them?
 

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So you think my claim is outlandish?

Can you let us know his opponent breakdown across those 9 games and what they were able to do while he was opposed to them?
So to summarise, you've got no idea who his opponents were, yet they weren't noteworthy, but he's still managed to keep them quiet irrespective of their noteworthiness. Got ya.
 

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So to summarise, you've got no idea who his opponents were, yet they weren't noteworthy, but he's still managed to keep them quiet irrespective of their noteworthiness. Got ya.
If you provide some evidence he shut down some one good, I’ll concede. Otherwise I’m going to continue believe he’s shut down ability isn’t anything special atm.
 

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If you provide some evidence he shut down some one good, I’ll concede. Otherwise I’m going to continue believe he’s shut down ability isn’t anything special atm.
Because you don't rate the players he's shut down despite not knowing who they are.... Right.

Provide me with a list of those you don't rate already shut down opponents and I'll make a case for 1 of them that I do.
 

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Because you don't rate the players he's shut down despite not knowing who they are.... Right.
If they were any good the I’d remember because everyone with a hard on for him would constantly bring them up. So until proven otherwise I’ll back myself in.
 
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