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Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack.

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Judaism as a religion is over 3,300 years old, Islam 1,400.

Now I think all religious are a waste of one's brain capacity however when people, such as the esteemed senator Thorpe, complain about Israel colonising Palestinian land, perhaps they should do themselves a favour and go study ancient history. They'll realise Jews were in Palestine around a thousand years before the birth of Islam.

Muslims were the invading force and no, it was never 'peaceful'.
So get this, not all Palestinians are Muslims! And does one displacement make another one morally correct? If so, better sign your house over to the Aboriginal nation who used to own the land.
 

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I have a feeling we are about to witness a full scale war between Israel and Iran and a coalition of other middle eastern states.

This is the straw that's broken the camels back on both sides imo.




In terms of the music festival, it will go down as an all-time own goal by Hamas.

The USS Ford carrier strike group 12 is now on route to Israel, the US Navy has also re-deployed an Arleigh Burke-Class Guided-Missile Destroyer group from the Western Mediterranean to Israel.

I think Hamas will be getting a visit from Seal Team 5 shortly about these US hostages.


Probably not Seal team 5. Probably Seal team 6 also known as Naval Special Warfare Development Group.

They’ll work in with tier 1 special forces commands from other nations who’s citizens are being held hostage. Including Israel’s Sayeret Matkal.
 
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Geech. Watched a brief video of the music festival on X. (not posing it here, its graphic)

One innocent guy, clearly blooded getting taken away and kidnapped and another just hiding. lying near the boot of a car, scared and threat to no one. Hamas w***er goes up to him and shots him, just like that.

Tough to watch. I really do feel for the innocent Palestinians who are about to get caught in the cross fire, but the next time someone celebrates this act, get them to watch this 10 sec clip.

As someone said, this is a own goal by Hamas. They dont care for Palestine. All they care about is killing. They deserve what is coming to them. I just regret the innocent life which will get caught in the crossfire.

As for Iran.....they can go to hell and back.

 
I think it's always sad when civilians are killed or injured due to the actions of others in their country, that they had little control over. And I hope anyone sad for the civilians of one side, would express the same compassion for those of the other who are suffering. Particularly the Palestinian civilians getting shelled into oblivion now, because the majority of Australians seem to already be showing compassion for the Israelis.

The usual yobbos are calling for, in effect, the complete annihilation of the Palestinian people.


This is just as wrong as it would be for the annihilation of any other ethnic group, and we should all be better than that.
 
So get this, not all Palestinians are Muslims! And does one displacement make another one morally correct? If so, better sign your house over to the Aboriginal nation who used to own the land.
Not really my point to begin with.

Go back to Thorpe's tweet.

No I don't agree with the land grab from Israel, as earlier stated.
 
A lot of things don’t make sense atm. The complete failure of Israeli Intelligence..even US Intelligence. The timing by Hamas as things were going poorly for Netanyahu with protests etc. Now this will unite Israel behind him. Clearly Iran behind it and some suggest the proposed Saudi/Israel/US agreement behind their motive and this is a ploy to delay that. To the cost of course of innocent people and in particular Pal
 

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A lot of things don’t make sense atm. The complete failure of Israeli Intelligence..even US Intelligence. The timing by Hamas as things were going poorly for Netanyahu with protests etc. Now this will unite Israel behind him. Clearly Iran behind it and some suggest the proposed Saudi/Israel/US agreement behind their motive and this is a ploy to delay that. To the cost of course of innocent people and in particular Pal
Yeah it’s a conspiracy.
 
Not really my point to begin with.

Go back to Thorpe's tweet.

No I don't agree with the land grab from Israel, as earlier stated.
Perhaps you could make your point more clear. I went back to her tweet, what is your specific issue with it? It shows a displacement that has happened. An earlier displacement doesn't mean this one was justified.
 
The narrative difference between Palestine and Ukraine is the most mind-boggling piece of cognitive dissonance I think I've ever seen
Nope. Your "what about me" narrative pisses me off.

For one, Ukraine has not gone to a Russian music festival and killed 250 non combatants, shooting people one by one. Or kidnapped innocent civilians as human shields to try and protect them from the incoming attacks.

Ukraine is fighting on the battlefield and have rarely attacked Russia itself. If innocent Russians have died, they have sadly been in the wrong place at the one time. Not lining up shooting someone under his car, cold blooded on Russian soil.

Hamas are terrorists, and not freedom fighters. They should be treated with disdain as such.

Palestine would be better off without them.
 
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A lot of things don’t make sense atm. The complete failure of Israeli Intelligence..even US Intelligence. The timing by Hamas as things were going poorly for Netanyahu with protests etc. Now this will unite Israel behind him.
It all makes sense if you consider Palestinian militants (separately from the remainder of Palestinian people) to be the world's stupidest people. Some say insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, well they've tried violence for 75 years now and this attempt will get the same results all the previous ones did, Israel come down on them like a tonne of bricks. Yet this won't dissuade them from trying it again.

Accepting the paradigm that their view of this as a holy war overrides any kind of logic, evidence or common sense, then every time is a perfect time for an attack, no matter whether it will turn around your opponents fortunes or not.
 
Nope. Your "what about me" narrative pisses me off.

For one, Ukraine has not gone to a Russian music festival and killed 250 non combatants, shooting people one by one. Or kidnapped innocent civilians as human shields to try and protect them from the incoming attacks.

Ukraine is fighting on the battlefield and have rarely attacked Russia itself. If innocent Russians have died, they have sadly been in the wrong place at the one time. Not lining up shooting someone under his car and shooting cold blooded on Russian soil.

Hamas are terrorists, and not freedom fighters. They should be treated with disdain as such.

Palestine would be better off without them.
They said Palestine, not Hamas. You acknowledge Palestine is more than Hamas, yet there's a narrative amongst some that Palestinian civilians deserve what they get, where Ukrainian civilians don't.
 

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I think it's always sad when civilians are killed or injured due to the actions of others in their country, that they had little control over. And I hope anyone sad for the civilians of one side, would express the same compassion for those of the other who are suffering. Particularly the Palestinian civilians getting shelled into oblivion now, because the majority of Australians seem to already be showing compassion for the Israelis.

The usual yobbos are calling for, in effect, the complete annihilation of the Palestinian people.


This is just as wrong as it would be for the annihilation of any other ethnic group, and we should all be better than that.

It seems Palestinians are the only people one can openly call for a genocide of and have it be socially acceptable (and from more mainstream figures than Yemini).

I’d read elsewhere that approximately 140 of 180 people kidnapped were IDF. Obviously I want that number of civilians to be zero, but compared to the thousands of innocent Palestinians who have faced similar, the one-sided outrage of many is telling.
 
Perhaps you could make your point more clear. I went back to her tweet, what is your specific issue with it? It shows a displacement that has happened. An earlier displacement doesn't mean this one was justified.
Just read the following conversation. I CBF repeating it for everyone who wants to quote one reply without reading the preceeding conversation.
 
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