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No link unfortunately but I can have a look. I heard Rita Panahi say something along those lines on Andrew Bolt's program.got a link, I'd have thought it'd be the international TV rights.
No link unfortunately but I can have a look. I heard Rita Panahi say something along those lines on Andrew Bolt's program.got a link, I'd have thought it'd be the international TV rights.
yeh, nah .... repent?Hey Issy, are all the peodophile priests going to hell????
Hey Issy, are all the church’s officials who protected those peodophiles going to hell???
By "sky-god" I mean a "being" of some kind who resides up above us and wields a big stick with which he/she/it occasionally smites the unworthy, ungrateful cretins (i.e. us) below on the ground. This includes "God", "Allah", "Yahweh", "The Great Pumpkin" and other assorted dieties. So I'm not just referring to the Christian "God".Reading yes, understanding no. Where does it talk about a sky god? You are right when you say that too many so called “christians” haven’t read much of it though
Compost , what else could happen????So you know what happens after we die then? Perhaps you'd like to fill us in?
Yes we know a lot more about the universe than the Pagans, Jews, Christians....This is right, 2000 years ago humans searched for reasons to who what how and why and supplanted this story to help deal with what they did not understand.
2000 years down the track we know and understand so much that i find incredible that anyone gives any credence at all to this fractured fairy tale. There are so many holes in the story for it to be credible and then for so called people looking to help others to take a literal interpretation and then impose this on others.
On the extremely remote chance that there is such a place then of course they would. The bible says so doesn't it? Folau said so didn't he?Why do you assume Folau wouldn't think they would?Hey Issy, are all the peodophile priests going to hell????
Hey Issy, are all the church’s officials who protected those peodophiles going to hell???
Why do you ignore these crimes yet vilify homosexuals who did not choose to be the the way they are, pathetic.
So definitely not Hell then ...Compost , what else could happen????
It's very compassionate of you not to vilify paedophiles.Hey Issy, are all the peodophile priests going to hell????
Hey Issy, are all the church’s officials who protected those peodophiles going to hell???
Why do you ignore these crimes yet vilify homosexuals who did not choose to be the the way they are, pathetic.
Not the place but what the heck. Creationism isn't a theory as it doesn't have any scientific evidence supporting it. The Big Bang Theory does have scientific evidence supporting it (eg the discovery of cosmic background radiation (https://www.space.com/33892-cosmic-microwave-background.html) , the Hubble constant (https://www.space.com/25179-hubble-constant.html), the red shift of stars, etc).If you can explain to me how all the matter in the universe could possibly have once been in an infinately small place and how that is any more or less faniciful than creationism than I'd appreciate it. Are the theories mutually exclusive?
I'm not a beliver but there are huige gaps in all the theories.
Before we thought we knew. Now we know we don't know.Yes we know a lot more about the universe than the Pagans, Jews, Christians....
If you can explain to me how all the matter in the universe could possibly have once been in an infinately small place and how that is any more or less faniciful than creationism than I'd appreciate it. Are the theories mutually exclusive?
I'm not a beliver but there are huige gaps in all the theories.
On the extremely remote chance that there is such a place then of course they would. The bible says so doesn't it? Folau said so didn't he?Why do you assume Folau wouldn't think they would?
The difference between evolutionist and creationist is that evolutionists know when there is a gap in the knowledge. They dont make things up to fit a story that cant work under an reasonable circumstance.Yes we know a lot more about the universe than the Pagans, Jews, Christians....
If you can explain to me how all the matter in the universe could possibly have once been in an infinately small place and how that is any more or less faniciful than creationism than I'd appreciate it. Are the theories mutually exclusive?
I'm not a beliver but there are huige gaps in all the theories.
On the extremely remote chance that there is such a place then of course they would. The bible says so doesn't it? Folau said so didn't he?Why do you assume Folau wouldn't think they would?
Go check the GEORGE PELL thread.It's very compassionate of you not to vilify paedophiles.
We? There are a lot of people who have never been part of any culture that follows any relgion from the middel eastern origons. We don't actually know what we do or don't know. I guess that makes us more enlightened. It doesn't seem to make us any less judgemental though.Before we thought we knew. Now we know we don't know.
Our knowledge has grown.
Other than existance itself. As I said I'm not a believer but it isn't impossible in some form.Not the place but what the heck. Creationism isn't a theory as it doesn't have any scientific evidence supporting it.
The Pope (not this one) gave Steven Hawking a medal for his work on The Big Bang and beleved that was the creation moment. That's probably as explainable as any theroy for all the matter in the universe being in an instantly small space and ending with Collingwood losing another GF.Creationists insist their view is correct even in the face of conflicting evidence.
Just trying to get a handle on what you're saying here. Are you referring to Genesis/Old Testament or the New Testament? Genesis was written hundreds of years before Christ.... 2000 years ago humans searched for reasons to who what how and why and supplanted this story to help deal with what they did not understand.
2000 years down the track we know and understand so much that i find incredible that anyone gives any credence at all to this fractured fairy tale.
An “evidence supports” model of inquiry is superior to a “no evidence but I’m definitely right anyway” model.The difference between the two approaches is science (the Big Bang) constantly looks to refine and change the model ...
Is Phil Collins that old ?Just trying to get a handle on what you're saying here. Are you referring to Genesis/Old Testament or the New Testament? Genesis was written hundreds of years before Christ.
We now have a great understanding how the world works and dont need to come up with a story to give world reason.Just trying to get a handle on what you're saying here. Are you referring to Genesis/Old Testament or the New Testament? Genesis was written hundreds of years before Christ.
Except maybe existance and hundres of thousands of years of meaning in the darkness of the unknown. That's a bit more than nothing and quite likely enough to get us to the point where electricity etc were possible. Science and religion are not mutually exclusive or even neccessarily contradictory. Religion isn't confined to Christianity.There’s a reason one gave us electricity, internet and the ability to fly, and the other, well not very much.
But can't you see? I wanted to see which story you were referring to. The story of Genesis of the one about Christ. Or do you believe BOTH are complete fairytales, e.g. Jesus didn't exist?We now have a great understanding how the world works and dont need to come up with a story to give world reason.
Yeah don’t really agree with this. Religion isn’t just a question about the existence of a God; it’s a system of belief without evidence, plenty of which has been, and is being, chipped away at by actual human knowledge acquired through scientific method. This issue with Folau is born out of such contradiction, with science providing evidence that fornication and homosexuality have the same biological basis as marital coitus, and religion claiming that not only are these different, but some lead to hell - for which there is ZERO evidence.Science and religion are not mutually exclusive or even neccessarily contradictory.
As I keep saying, I am not a believer but the fact that some things are, or at least seem to be, explained, does not discount the greater volumn of unexplained as being the result of one or another theory including diviinty.
There is more unexplained by science than tehre is explained.
You can respect someone as a human being without respecting their opinions. For example, do you respect the opinions of neo-Nazis "and the untold numbers of people around the world who share those opinions"? I would hope not.Are you showing basic respect for Israel Folau and the untold numbers of people around the world who share his opinions?
Is Israel Folau being shown respect by people like yourself at the moment?You can respect someone as a human being without respecting their opinions.
By saying what he says in the way he says it - in public, where he gets huge media attention - is he disrespecting the majority of Australians (who voted in favour of the plebiscite for gay marriage)?Is Israel Folau being shown respect by people like yourself at the moment?