Conspiracy Theory It's coming. COVID vaccine required for entry to games

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No overseas travel, and no welfare payments: The way the government will force people to get a COVID-19 jab - even as the PM insists the vaccine will NOT be compulsory

Yeah it is not compulsory but we will make life as hard as possible.
 
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No overseas travel, and no welfare payments: The way the government will force people to get a COVID-19 jab - even as the PM insists the vaccine will NOT be compulsory


He is right. It isn’t compulsory.
But why should you get benefits from a government and medical you don’t trust enough to get the vaccine?
 

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would you go to the footy if you had to produce evidence of a negative test? (without being vaccinated)
Nah I would tell em to shove it, this isn't about a bad flu season.

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You don't understand how vaccines work.

I'm fairly sure I do.

Are you about to refer to the concept of reducing the potential for exposure by the community being vaccinated? If so, please consider how covid is tested and where your immune system does and doesn't work. Meaning people will still spread covid, even if they aren't showing signs of the disease.

Also remember:
- for the vast majority, covid is a non event anyway.
- influenza vaccines don't like to publish there success or failure in reducing mortality rates from the disease. why, because they are effective in reducing the impact on the healthy but not the immune compromised. They do though have potential benefits for the "grey" zone. Corona will be no different.
 
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It's not just the footy.

It'll be all events. Then it'll be travel. Then it'll be shopping centres. Then it'll be public transport, education etc.

It's not a choice, it's about control.

medical in confidence, is at risk here
 
We should also introduce scales at the register of fast food places, with a BMI calculator with a flashing light and loud audio "stand back from the counter"

AND

Have to swipe medicare cards to buy cigarettes, alcohol and fast food.

AND

Mandate exercise


If we are concerned about public health, we need to focus on the biggest risks
 
They can't trial long term effects for this stuff though.

RNA vaccines use a different approach that takes advantage of the process that cells use to make proteins: cells use DNA as the template to make messenger RNA (mRNA) molecules, which are then translated to build proteins. An RNA vaccine consists of an mRNA strand that codes for a disease-specific antigen.

Yeah, nah. Altering DNA? I'll be staying away from that one thanks
Just to catch up with this one:


Of course, to experts the claim that RNA vaccines will somehow “reprogram” your DNA claims are utterly risible in the ignorance of basic biology and biochemistry necessary to make such unscientific claims.
 
If we keep our active cases constantly low and manage international travel appropriately the virus won't be able to spread very fast at all at 90% effectiveness and 75% compliance.

please refer mortality rates of influenza pre and post vaccinations. This might provide guidance to what we will expect. Many journals point to 30% reduction at best and other studies show an increase in mortality rates.

Please note the immune system does not work where the virus enters the body, multiplies and spreads (internal and external).
 
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Just to catch up with this one:


Of course, to experts the claim that RNA vaccines will somehow “reprogram” your DNA claims are utterly risible in the ignorance of basic biology and biochemistry necessary to make such unscientific claims.
I hadn’t heard the doctors Gorski called fearmongering in that opinion piece from his “science based medicine” blog, so thought it worthwhile to attach a short video of what one of them was claiming first. There is also no liability for any of the vaccine manufactures in Australia.

https://visionlaunch.com/dr-carrie-madej-an-urgent-wake-up-call-about-new-covid-19-vaccine/

With Moderna vaccine lab to Phase 2 with 45 subjects was 60 days. First time ever they’ve developed a vaccine for anything, although Gorski says 80 - 100% with side effects, with unknown long-term effects. Pfizer also only had 45 subjects in phase 2 studies and although there have been reports of more subjects the science community has to rely on science by press release and no peer data, which has never happened before.

Have Mod-e RNA, a company backed by Bill Gates to develop modified RNA vaccines developed 10 candidates already as Gorski states? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderna It's a Bill Gates backed new company to develop technology platform inserts synthetic mRNA into human cells. This mRNA then reprograms the cells to prompting immune responses. It is a novel technique, previously abandoned due to the side effects of inserting mRNA intro cells. It has not had one of it's vaccines approved so far.

The problem with all of this, Madej notes, is that they’re using a process called transfection — a process used to create genetically modified organisms.

If you look at the definition of transfection, it will tell you that it can be a temporary change in the cell. And I think that is what the vaccine manufacturers are banking on.

Or, it’s a possibility for it to become stable, to be taken up into the genome, and to be so stable that it will start replicating when the genome replicates. Meaning it is now a permanent part of your genome. That’s a chance that we’re taking. It could be temporary, or it could be permanent.

We really should not be quick to dismiss the idea that these vaccines may cause permanent genetic changes, because we now have proof that even conventional vaccines have the ability to do that, and they don’t involve the insertion of synthetic RNA and there have been no long term studies for humans. Madej also makes the point that synthetic mRNA or DNA or genes can be patented in Supreme court GMO cases. SO if the vaccines do get taken into the genome, can the modified human organism be patented?

The other two features of the mRNA vaccines are

Luciferase. Has bio-luminescence or produces light. Luciferase is patented enzyme that gives a light pattern showing a digital pattern or mark branding the subject with an ID and showing the person has been vaccinated. Holds your vaccination record and ID/barcode that you become like a product, that can be read by i-phone or a reader that can read this light.

And

Hydrogel is special nanotechnology technology invented by DARPA (US dept of defence) that gathers information from your body like BP, emotions, exercising, menstruating whether you’ve taken medication, which can go to a smart app like your phone. Microscopic robots. All the information gathered can be connected to AI. Proposed that info going out can also mean info coming back to your body. Hydrogel tech has the potential to be an on demand drug delivery system, not be in this vaccine but is aimed for. SO theoretically, if your rioting you can be given a sedative.

Gorski quotes Moderna spokesperson Colleen Hussey explaining to NPR in an email, that Moderna's vaccine doesn’t need to be kept so cold (-20 compared to -75 or above degrees for Phyzer) because of its particular “lipid nanoparticle properties and structure,” “Now we don’t need [ultra-cold conditions] as the quality of product has improved and [it] doesn’t need to be highly frozen to avoid mRNA degradation,” Hussey explained.

Both companies are very vague about why their vaccines need intense freezing so it could be addition of nanoparticles, which have their own potential problems, mean the Moderna vaccine is not frozen to the same level.

Gorski quotes “Dr. Madej’s claim that microneedles and a Hydrogel base will be used to inject the new vaccines; so I might as well briefly explain that she’s almost certainly referring to “quantum dot tags” which are copper-based quantum dots embedded in biocompatible, micron-scale capsules. They’re tagged with a near-infrared dye that’s invisible, but the pattern they set can be read and interpreted by a customized smartphone. Contrary to Madej’s and Mercola’s claims, these are not permanent, as the currently estimated time during which they can be read is five years.

He claims this is a good because … “For one thing, knowing who’s already received a specific vaccine can protect that person from unnecessarily being advised to receive that vaccine again if there is uncertainty over whether they have ever had it.”

I'm sure you're aware with all his "whoopy de do and whoopy de dee" statements and vicious attacks on his opposing view that Gorski who also trolls for big Pharma anonymously online as "Orac", has this message from his employer at Wayne State University’s, Chairman Donald W. Weaver which reads, in part:

The Department has a long and rich history of clinical excellence, educational innovation, and novel research… The Department faculty is a mix of senior surgeons, accomplished, experienced surgeons and young, well-trained surgical specialists eager to contribute their skills to teaching the craft of surgery.”

In the case of Dr. David ‘Orac’ Gorski, there appears to be little “clinical excellence” or “educational innovation” or “novel research” on display, by the doctor who spends his time producing personal attacks, making a bad name for himself and the institutions that give him a paycheck.

Despite disclosing conflicts of interest with the pharmaceutical industry on his quasi-serious website.


Are they accelerating development and use of the vaccine because

1 - It is not a vaccine but genetic engineering?

2 - The covid farce is collapsing much faster than they expected?
 
I hadn’t heard the doctors Gorski called fearmongering in that opinion piece from his “science based medicine” blog, so thought it worthwhile to attach a short video of what one of them was claiming first. There is also no liability for any of the vaccine manufactures in Australia.

https://visionlaunch.com/dr-carrie-madej-an-urgent-wake-up-call-about-new-covid-19-vaccine/

With Moderna vaccine lab to Phase 2 with 45 subjects was 60 days. First time ever they’ve developed a vaccine for anything, although Gorski says 80 - 100% with side effects, with unknown long-term effects. Pfizer also only had 45 subjects in phase 2 studies and although there have been reports of more subjects the science community has to rely on science by press release and no peer data, which has never happened before.

Have Mod-e RNA, a company backed by Bill Gates to develop modified RNA vaccines developed 10 candidates already as Gorski states? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moderna It's a Bill Gates backed new company to develop technology platform inserts synthetic mRNA into human cells. This mRNA then reprograms the cells to prompting immune responses. It is a novel technique, previously abandoned due to the side effects of inserting mRNA intro cells. It has not had one of it's vaccines approved so far.

The problem with all of this, Madej notes, is that they’re using a process called transfection — a process used to create genetically modified organisms.

If you look at the definition of transfection, it will tell you that it can be a temporary change in the cell. And I think that is what the vaccine manufacturers are banking on.

Or, it’s a possibility for it to become stable, to be taken up into the genome, and to be so stable that it will start replicating when the genome replicates. Meaning it is now a permanent part of your genome. That’s a chance that we’re taking. It could be temporary, or it could be permanent.

We really should not be quick to dismiss the idea that these vaccines may cause permanent genetic changes, because we now have proof that even conventional vaccines have the ability to do that, and they don’t involve the insertion of synthetic RNA and there have been no long term studies for humans. Madej also makes the point that synthetic mRNA or DNA or genes can be patented in Supreme court GMO cases. SO if the vaccines do get taken into the genome, can the modified human organism be patented?

The other two features of the mRNA vaccines are

Luciferase. Has bio-luminescence or produces light. Luciferase is patented enzyme that gives a light pattern showing a digital pattern or mark branding the subject with an ID and showing the person has been vaccinated. Holds your vaccination record and ID/barcode that you become like a product, that can be read by i-phone or a reader that can read this light.

And

Hydrogel is special nanotechnology technology invented by DARPA (US dept of defence) that gathers information from your body like BP, emotions, exercising, menstruating whether you’ve taken medication, which can go to a smart app like your phone. Microscopic robots. All the information gathered can be connected to AI. Proposed that info going out can also mean info coming back to your body. Hydrogel tech has the potential to be an on demand drug delivery system, not be in this vaccine but is aimed for. SO theoretically, if your rioting you can be given a sedative.

Gorski quotes Moderna spokesperson Colleen Hussey explaining to NPR in an email, that Moderna's vaccine doesn’t need to be kept so cold (-20 compared to -75 or above degrees for Phyzer) because of its particular “lipid nanoparticle properties and structure,” “Now we don’t need [ultra-cold conditions] as the quality of product has improved and [it] doesn’t need to be highly frozen to avoid mRNA degradation,” Hussey explained.

Both companies are very vague about why their vaccines need intense freezing so it could be addition of nanoparticles, which have their own potential problems, mean the Moderna vaccine is not frozen to the same level.

Gorski quotes “Dr. Madej’s claim that microneedles and a Hydrogel base will be used to inject the new vaccines; so I might as well briefly explain that she’s almost certainly referring to “quantum dot tags” which are copper-based quantum dots embedded in biocompatible, micron-scale capsules. They’re tagged with a near-infrared dye that’s invisible, but the pattern they set can be read and interpreted by a customized smartphone. Contrary to Madej’s and Mercola’s claims, these are not permanent, as the currently estimated time during which they can be read is five years.

He claims this is a good because … “For one thing, knowing who’s already received a specific vaccine can protect that person from unnecessarily being advised to receive that vaccine again if there is uncertainty over whether they have ever had it.”

I'm sure you're aware with all his "whoopy de do and whoopy de dee" statements and vicious attacks on his opposing view that Gorski who also trolls for big Pharma anonymously online as "Orac", has this message from his employer at Wayne State University’s, Chairman Donald W. Weaver which reads, in part:

The Department has a long and rich history of clinical excellence, educational innovation, and novel research… The Department faculty is a mix of senior surgeons, accomplished, experienced surgeons and young, well-trained surgical specialists eager to contribute their skills to teaching the craft of surgery.”

In the case of Dr. David ‘Orac’ Gorski, there appears to be little “clinical excellence” or “educational innovation” or “novel research” on display, by the doctor who spends his time producing personal attacks, making a bad name for himself and the institutions that give him a paycheck.

Despite disclosing conflicts of interest with the pharmaceutical industry on his quasi-serious website.


Are they accelerating development and use of the vaccine because

1 - It is not a vaccine but genetic engineering?

2 - The covid farce is collapsing much faster than they expected?
the claims that RNA vaccines will somehow “reprogram” your DNA are utterly risible
 
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the claims that RNA vaccines will somehow “reprogram” your DNA are utterly risible
All retroviruses, I think, use reverse transcriptase to make DNA from the retroviral RNA, as do some other viruses. Very occasionally it can be integrated. When it's integrated, it usually isn't forming retroviruses, as it often is just fragments. But, those fragments can code for other proteins. Whether this is a realistic issue with mRNA vaccines, one cannot make the blanket statement (no caveats) that RNA never produces DNA.

There are vaccine specialists claiming that if a vaccination symptom develops after an mRNA vaccination, the damage caused by the vaccination will be genetically irreversible. There should be long term studies and previous mRNA vaccines were abandoned because of the safety hazards.

Gorski quoted Nirenberg "We should await the detailed safety data, but, a priori, a segment of RNA encoding the spike protein RBD of SARS-CoV-2 with no replicative potential, and no ability to form whole virus, nor even whole ability to form an ENTIRE spike protein, should be expected to be a safe vaccine."

That's a very reasonable statement but not happening, with a rushed vaccine from the test tube to being injected in the population in 10 months and missing many safely steps before Pfizer recently getting "emergency" approval.

On December 1, 2020, the ex-Pfizer head of respiratory research Dr. Michael Yeadon and the lung specialist and former head of the public health department Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg filed an emergency application with the European Medicine Agency responsible for EU-wide drug approval, for the immediate suspension of all SARS CoV 2 vaccine studies, in particular the BioNtech/Pfizer study on BNT162b (EudraCT number 2020-002641-42).

The petitioners demand that, due to the known lack of accuracy of the PCR test in a serious study, a so-called Sanger sequencing must be used. This is the only way to make reliable statements on the effectiveness of a vaccine against Covid-19.

Furthermore, they demand that it must be excluded, e.g. by means of animal experiments, that risks already known from previous studies, which partly originate from the nature of the corona viruses, can be realized.

The concerns are directed in particular to the following points:

  • The formation of so-called “non-neutralizing antibodies” can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real, “wild” virus after vaccination. This so-called antibody-dependent amplification, ADE, has long been known from experiments with corona vaccines in cats, for example. In the course of these studies all cats that initially tolerated the vaccination well died after catching the wild virus.
  • The vaccinations are expected to produce antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. However, spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans. It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.
  • The mRNA vaccines from BioNTech/Pfizer contain polyethylene glycol (PEG). 70% of people develop antibodies against this substance – this means that many people can develop allergic, potentially fatal reactions to the vaccination.
  • The much too short duration of the study does not allow a realistic estimation of the late effects. As in the narcolepsy cases after the swine flu vaccination, millions of healthy people would be exposed to an unacceptable risk if an emergency approval were to be granted and the possibility of observing the late effects of the vaccination were to follow. Nevertheless, BioNTech/Pfizer apparently submitted an application for emergency approval on December 1, 2020.

Cody O'Loughlin for The New York Times . By Denise Grady. Dec. 2, 2020; The drug maker Moderna said on Wednesday that it would soon begin testing its coronavirus vaccine in children ages 12 through 17.

Surely, as possible infertility has been mentioned more than once as a possible result of the vaccines and this may not be obvious for 5 or more years, that children who are at no risk would not be given the vaccine until long term studies are completed? Also in both Australia and US all vaccine makers are indemnified from paying if side effects or damage occurs.

As far as transhumanism (to meld human biology with technology and artificial intelligence) I've only just heard of it, but it is heavily promoted in the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab book. By its definition it seems this is exactly what's happening with nanotechnology and these vaccines. Just my opinion.
 
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One of the main reasons ex - Pfzer head of respiratory research, Dr Yeadon and lung specialist and former head of the Public Health Dept, Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, have petitioned the German government to stop all vaccination studies until they can answer questions about whether female infertility can result from taking the vaccines. See petition link in post above.
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The UK regulatons state they don't know if the vaccine affects fertility! Also avoid pregnancy for at least two months after the second dose.
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Ministers have also changed the law in recent weeks to give new protections to companies such as Pfizer, giving them immunity from being sued by patients in the event of any complications.
NHS staff providing the vaccine, as well as manufacturers of the drug, are also protected.

 
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One of the main reasons ex - Pfzer head of respiratory research, Dr Yeadon and lung specialist and former head of the Public Health Dept, Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, have petitioned the German government to stop all vaccination studies until they can answer questions about whether female infertility can result from taking the vaccines. See petition link in post above.
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The UK regulatons state they don't know if the vaccine affects fertility! Also avoid pregnancy for at least two months after the second dose.
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Ministers have also changed the law in recent weeks to give new protections to companies such as Pfizer, giving them immunity from being sued by patients in the event of any complications.
NHS staff providing the vaccine, as well as manufacturers of the drug, are also protected.



Perhaps just give the vaccine to the vulnerable and those dying anyway. Then once trials are completed to normal standard, then give it to the healthy.........those not at risk to covid anyway.
 
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