Its time for a change of Schimma like proprtions..

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I am not sure your facts are 100% correct on this one. Horse was never in the race. As soon as his name popped up as being likely interview candidate, Sydney immediately announced their new "succession" plan for him to take over from Roos. Blakey was settled in Sydney with his family and wasn't really an option, I think you'll find. The only other name that was strongly linked to us was Hardwick, and despite how frustrated we are with Brad at the minute, I think we dodged a bullet there.

I do agree though, that the 2016 extension was premature.
After JYD resigned the only person we were chasing was FIGJAM.
Paul Roos came out and endorsed horse as someone who'd be more than capable as a senior coach.
We put all our eggs in the one basket and Sydney and Roos pounced on their man.
The rest is history.
 

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My view is that Saturdays exceptionally disappointing performance is in the mindset of the players. In my view our club is not yet mature enough to be able to be consistently up at the level we need to be win these sorts of games and prove ourselves to be ready to really challenge. We are so much like the Geelong of 2005 to early 2007 when *bomber *thompson (must never forget the *) was in the firing sights at Geelong. He could have easily got the flick and the era that Geelong has just experienced may never have happened.

We need someone within the playing group now to give the players the Paul Chapman spray, ironically given after we beat them in the David Hale 8 goal game in 2007. From that moment on they never looked back, handing out some horrendous floggings immediately after to I think, Richmond and Melbourne.
This is precisely it. What we lack is genuine leadership WITHIN the group.
 
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Correction; Hale didn't kick 8 in 2007, from memory that was 2009 or 2010, but agree no one has the cajones to stand up and say anything otherwise they might be excluded from the next round of sound jammer
Yep, he kicked on Scarlett, we still got rolled.

The Chappy spray came after Simmo ran around at will and got 40+ touches.
 
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Totally agree all this is giving me the shits, at some time the players need to take responsibly for just playing like crap.

It may be Scott is not up to it, but we need to see out the season like it or not.

A lot of so called experts are now saying our list is not a top 4 list, I'm not sure about that, but I do know two things, we are missing the players that are injured and I don't believe apart from Cunnington the rest have come on as we have liked.
 
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With all the crap I'm reading around these parts in the last few days, not to mention the crap I've been saying about the team myself, in moments of clarity it comes back to this for me:-
We get to 15-7 and win at least one final. I'll take it. Will we get it? It's looking dodgier today than it did last Friday. However, I know for a fact that no great changes are going to be made until the end of the year when everything will be reviewed. I can live with that.
 

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Yep, he kicked on Scarlett, we still got rolled.

The Chappy spray came after Simmo ran around at will and got 40+ touches.
Yep. It is the old age factor and memory tricks coming into play with me. That was the game and that's the sort of reality call (spray) we need with our playing group.
 

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With all the crap I'm reading around these parts in the last few days, not to mention the crap I've been saying about the team myself, in moments of clarity it comes back to this for me:-
We get to 15-7 and win at least one final. I'll take it. Will we get it? It's looking dodgier today than it did last Friday. However, I know for a fact that no great changes are going to be made until the end of the year when everything will be reviewed. I can live with that.
So we are gunna go 7-1 when we've currently gone 8-6? Not convinced we can even go 5-3 Caracas
 

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Of our other losses, Collingwood and Geelong are higher placed than us, Essendon were bound to come out defiantly in round 1, Gold Coast is level with us on the ladder and Adelaide in Adelaide was always going to be a hard ask. (Make no mistake, they are no duds, Adelaide, as Port has just found out.)

I am not making excuses; rather I am trying to put some perspective on our performance this year.

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But if we had beaten Geelong and Collingwood both teams would be below us and thus be classified as "should have wons"
 

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Why is it that when things go awry football supporters in general always blame the coach but when clubs are winning the players get the praise? Doesn't make sense to me that approach.

And in our case why is it that we have beaten three of the current top 4 in Port, Fremantle and Sydney, yet have really only had one bad game that we should have won, being this loss to Brisbane? Of our other losses, Collingwood and Geelong are higher placed than us, Essendon were bound to come out defiantly in round 1, Gold Coast is level with us on the ladder and Adelaide in Adelaide was always going to be a hard ask. (Make no mistake, they are no duds, Adelaide, as Port has just found out.)

I am not making excuses; rather I am trying to put some perspective on our performance this year.

If instead of beating Port, Freo and Sydney, we had instead beaten Essendon, Adelaide and Brisbane (this most recent game) I would certainly be saying we really have not improved and maybe it is time to make a change.

But we have improved, because firstly we have beaten three of the top four and secondly we remain in the 8.

My view is that Saturdays exceptionally disappointing performance is in the mindset of the players. In my view our club is not yet mature enough to be able to be consistently up at the level we need to be win these sorts of games and prove ourselves to be ready to really challenge. We are so much like the Geelong of 2005 to early 2007 when *bomber *thompson (must never forget the *) was in the firing sights at Geelong. He could have easily got the flick and the era that Geelong has just experienced may never have happened.

We need someone within the playing group now to give the players the Paul Chapman spray, ironically given after we beat them in the David Hale 8 goal game in 2007. From that moment on they never looked back, handing out some horrendous floggings immediately after to I think, Richmond and Melbourne.
It is the corner we need to turn.

I disagree that we are not yet mature enough and I point to the back end of 2012 as the ability to play high level consistnet footy from this group.
 

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But who can look the group in the eye and deliver it though?
Jack. He's hurt though f*** knows what its doing to his confidence. Reality is he doesn't go off with the knee Saturday we probably win through pure force of will.

Luke maybe?? Loves the club oozes the same stuff as Jack, massive call for a kid to make though.

Levi? He seems quite but plays like an Animal and knows what its like to have to fight for it.
 

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If it's a spray from within the group, it has to come from Swallow.

He's the leader, he has had to slug through a year of banishment, he knows when you get your chance, you take it and never look back.

Honestly can't see it happening though. sadface.jpg
 
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If it's a spray from within the group, it has to come from Swallow.

He's the leader, he has had to slug through a year of banishment, he knows when you get your chance, you take it and never look back.

Honestly can't see it happening though. sadface.jpg
Yep, he doesn't have enough campaigner in him.

This side is seriously lacking campaigner factor.
 
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We could start by pissing of The Pirates and their merry japes.

I don't want to see photos of Ryan Bastinac's new "hipster" shirt.

I want to see Ryan Bastinac being beaten with a length of hose if he doesn't perform onfield

(Credit to RoyalBlue for that one)
 

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I do agree though, that the 2016 extension was premature.
But what more can a board do? We've remained ultra competitive whilst rebuilding.

The players can play great attacking and great defensive brutal footy, they just can't put it together every week.

We have improved each year. He sets goals, they achieve them. (Eg.Syd&freo ,2 teams we couldn't beat)

I think this squad of players we have is pretty ******* good. And you can't say they haven't cracked in most weeks. Petrie's cowardice and ridiculousness of tackling Wells after the Sydney/Port games - I mean hello what the **** is happening here, Daniel Wells should have ******* security at training not being asked to confront a moronic Petrie.

That's the shit that really irks me. The controllables.

We are well aware that certain players make a habit of wiping their ass with the jumper, but shit, we are ******* dangerous like we haven't been for many a year. At least give Bad that.
 

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We could start by pissing of The Pirates and their merry japes.

I don't want to see photos of Ryan Bastinac's new "hipster" shirt.

I want to see Ryan Bastinac being beaten with a length of hose if he doesn't perform onfield

(Credit to RoyalBlue for that one)
Gloves out opn Wednesday the 22 standing get the spots game day?

Problem with that is we only have 30 something blokes fit and half of the ones not playing are raw as botulism.
 

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Of our other losses, Collingwood and Geelong are higher placed than us, Essendon were bound to come out defiantly in round 1, Gold Coast is level with us on the ladder and Adelaide in Adelaide was always going to be a hard ask. (Make no mistake, they are no duds, Adelaide, as Port has just found out.)
I don't disagree with the quality of opposition, but I'd argue that we were particularly uncompetitive in all of those losses.
 
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