Its Time For Trigg To Resign.

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'Contact today', 'key supporters', sounds like a ring around to a handful of well-heeled powerbrokers. They are the only people that count. Maybe the afl is included in that group.

Let's not forget that he's a banker.
 

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Maybe I'm misremembering, as I don't remember the part DABM mentioned about reassigning existing sponsorships - but the conversation was "you can make another $200k in being a brand ambassador for Adelaide businesses." "But what if I don't?" "mate, you will. Have you seen this town? But look - in some fantasy world where you don't, we'll make it up."
There is an email from Harper to Blucher in early 2011, in which Harper says he has ''tipped'' the forward, Dangerfield and captain Nathan van Berlo into an endorsement deal with a construction company owned by former board member Alan Sheppard. These deals were approved by the league at the time, but Harper's use of the word ''tipped'' catches the attention of investigators. Independent agreements are supposed to be just that - not sought, facilitated or set up by clubs.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-tippett-saga-how-it-went-wrong-for-crows-20121128-2aefe.html#ixzz33vMJxB5V

The AFL Commission's findings:
“Thirdly, there was the facilitation by the Adelaide Crows Football Club of three separate side agreements, outside the operation of the TPP rules, for payments to player Tippett in 2011 and 2012, in addition to his standard playing contract and an ASA contract with the Club for promotional work. The facilitation of these agreements occurred across the various years 2009, 2010 and 2011 and did not come to the attention of the AFL until the latter part of this year. As part of this, a number of inaccurate statutory declarations were lodged by the Adelaide Crows with the AFL.”


The delusion from both inside and outside the club focuses on these four myths, and the club is happy to propagate these myths when questioned publicy:
1) The "trade for a second round pick" wasn't really cheating. If anything, it hurt the club by committing to trade him for less than he was worth.
2) We didn't go over the salary cap anyway.
3) The deal got annulled, but Blucher "didn't remember" the conversation so it's just his word against Trigg's.
4) Every other club does it, we just got caught.

1 isn't correct - the gain to us was Tippett's signature in the first place, using an illegal draft/trade guarantee to get him across the line.
2 is irrelevant. We set it up so that we could pay him outside the cap if we needed to, plus we funnelled club sponsor money into his pocket with is another no no.
3 isn't correct either. We continued to honour all conditions of the deal (financial and the trade guarantee), right up until Trigg set off for his European vacation with the parting instruction to Harper to accept a second rounder if push comes to shove.
4 is obviously garbage. Other clubs no doubt are shrewd but manage to do it within the rules, at no time leaving their club liable like we did.
 

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I think you're misunderstanding what we were confident about - not needing the guarantee is not the same as paying it.
I've not misunderstood a thing. Its exactly the same, and you could not be more mistaken.

AFC: Kurt we can offer you 500k
KT: I've got 900 on the table for Gold Coast. Has to be at least 700 before I'll consider it
AFC: You'll get 200k in sponsors if you stay
KT: I'll get that whatever you offer me. Do you think GC don't have sponsors? But ok. I'll let you include the 200k as salary to me

Now in what world does that happen?

Fact is, this wasn't 200k of sponsorships extra because Kurt would have gotten that on top anyway. It was part of his guaranteed contract.

We paid him 700 and guaranteed he'd get at least another 200k from our sponsors. I what way is that ok? Its straight out cheating. We'd guaranteed him money to stay and play for us, and we guaranteed it from a 3rd party source because if we had a successful year, we knew we couldn't fit it in.

That's the whole point of the grant Rutherford emails. that we could not be sure that his guarantee and his salary would fit in our cap. That's why we underwrote 3rd party payments. Its straight out of the john Elliott play book.

If you can't see how our cap positioned turned out in hindsight is irrelevant then I don't know what to tell you.
 

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Something about Rucci writing an article which starts out as a story about an article he wrote a week ago really rubs me the wrong way.

You're not the story, Rooch. Your articles are not the story.
He loves doing it. The whole Trigg going to Brisbane is a classic example. He writes about it then in subsequent articles refers to the fact that's it's reported Brisbane are interested in Trigg. But the only one who has reported it is himself, everyone else has laughed at the suggestion.
 

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The 2nd article shows Chapman is deluded in thinking his internal accountability review will make everything ok. If he was fair dinkum it would be conducted externally by no mates. His attitude only smacks of arrogance or he is seriously stupid - either way - he needs to go for the good of afc.
Seriously why is this a bad thing?

Why waste the time, resources or even money when we know everything is running to plan anyways? We can congratulate ourselves for doing such a great job; cut the middle man.

I say great job Adelaide.
 

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Seriously why is this a bad thing?

Why waste the time, resources or even money when we know everything is running to plan anyways? We can congratulate ourselves for doing such a great job; cut the middle man.

I say great job Adelaide.
Yep, give the $'s to your mate's including those useless high priced lawyers defending triggy & afc... & increase the price on the crows supporter season ticket for the privilege!
 

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Any one heard more about Mark Ricciuto challenging the board?

Is he going to establish him own ticket and try and try and take over or just join the board?
Seems like a pipe dream to me.

Besides, I thought the club constitution was written in such a way that a "take over" couldn't occur?
 

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Seems like a pipe dream to me.

Besides, I thought the club constitution was written in such a way that a "take over" couldn't occur?
Sounds like the board is manufacturing a coup in order to generate the positive buzz associated with change, sans the fear of any of the boys club actually losing their places on the gravy train.
 
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Seems like a pipe dream to me.

Besides, I thought the club constitution was written in such a way that a "take over" couldn't occur?
So did I but I imagine if someone like Roo was serious, he could make enough noise in the media and drum up enough support to make sone impact.

I not 100% convinced he will make the change completely but if he us serious! he can start knocking sone bricks down from the wall.
 
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I bet that Chapman/Trigg work to get Ricciuto on the Board, inside their little circle. Don't fight us, join us.

Placate the fans, be seen to be doing something plus neutralise any external threat.
 

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I bet that Chapman/Trigg work to get Ricciuto on the Board, inside their little circle. Don't fight us, join us.

Placate the fans, be seen to be doing something plus neutralise any external threat.
Tin foil ha...
Nah this is a real possibility.. :eek:
 

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I bet that Chapman/Trigg work to get Ricciuto on the Board, inside their little circle. Don't fight us, join us.

Placate the fans, be seen to be doing something plus neutralise any external threat.
Exactly what I meant by a board manufactured coup, although I reckon Ricciuto is already in that little circle, this is a mere formality that they'll dress up as "big changes at the club".
 

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I bet that Chapman/Trigg work to get Ricciuto on the Board, inside their little circle. Don't fight us, join us.

Placate the fans, be seen to be doing something plus neutralise any external threat.
I'd like to think that even if that did occur that Roo would be going in thinking he could change things around.
 

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I bet that Chapman/Trigg work to get Ricciuto on the Board, inside their little circle. Don't fight us, join us.

Placate the fans, be seen to be doing something plus neutralise any external threat.
I don't think that would happen, Roo seems like too much of an independent person to buy into an established culture unless he thought that culture was the right culture. Plus, being a member elected board member, he wouldn't sit by and allow something he thought was wrong to go down without causing some sort of stink. I just don't see a man like him sell out his integrity when he's based his entire existence around the meaning of that word.
 
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Chapman says:

"Steven is still the right man while we have some big issues to resolve- such as that very important Adelaide Oval review next month"
Does that mean that they are at least THINKING of moving him on when the review is over? Or sometime in the foreseeable future? That it's at least on the radar?

I'm not naive enough to believe it before I see it - but the wording is interesting...
 
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