It's time to go - Carey and Burns

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Originally posted by jc67


Jees weve played poorly for 4 weeks and this is how our supportes react???


IF THINGS ARNT GOING YOUR WAY WORK HARDER .
Once again I will say I admire your loyalty - blind as it is.

BUT

We haven't played poorly for 4 weeks.

We've really been in a massive slump for the last 5 matches of last year and the first 6 of this year - that's 11 matches in my book pread over two different seasons. How do you expect somebody who feels the pain of losing to react when it is so prolonged??

As for your heart felt shout at the end of the post, that should be directed at the several parasites who took their pay cheque for half hearted performances at Shell Stadium on Sunday, not those who felt the pain of those feeble efforts.
 

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I agree Burns career is over and am baffled why we recruited him he was half washed up at Geelong:rolleyes:

Carey on the otherhand is a lil bit tougher as the guy is a champ the AFC gave up alot to get him and I reakon the AFC would get torn to shreads if we dropped him, he is IMO trying but how can you mark a ball when you are not getting good delivery our delivery was so poor yesterday it wasnt funny, it was downright shocking, wet windy conditions and we are bombing it skyward:rolleyes:
 
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Originally posted by maccas_no1
I agree Burns career is over and am baffled why we recruited him he was half washed up at Geelong
um, you thought Ben Finnin had a future?
We've got more out of Burns than we ever would out of Finnin.
Good trade, imo.

But he is done. Send him back to Port.
 

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#82
Originally posted by naughty monkey
um, you thought Ben Finnin had a future?
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How is it a good trade we could have got another young player instead of Burns Finnin dont know never seen him play or knew what he was like
 

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#83
Originally posted by dyertribe
What have we received? A 1-5 start with some of the most insipid and gutless displays we've seen since 2000 and before that, 1996.
Hmmm - I see a pattern there - 1996, 2000, 2004 - We must have something against leap years!! - Bit like the "Odds and Evens" thing with Melbourne!
 

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#84
Originally posted by maccas_no1
How is it a good trade we could have got another young player instead of Burns Finnin dont know never seen him play or knew what he was like
Marty, Marty, Marty!!!!!!

Ben Finnin was never going to make the grade as such were were never going to get anything decent for him. He was still under contract so we couldn't have delisted him to get another pick.

I agree with naughty monkey here. Finnin for Burns was a good trade. We got more out of Ronnie than we were ever going to get out of Finnin. Burns was a punt and worth taking for such a low price. No prices for guessing who won that trade.

I am very happy with Burns trade but its Carey trade that gives me the ****s.
 

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#85
Originally posted by Stiffy_18
Marty, Marty, Marty!!!!!!

Ben Finnin was never going to make the grade as such were were never going to get anything decent for him. He was still under contract so we couldn't have delisted him to get another pick.

I agree with naughty monkey here. Finnin for Burns was a good trade. We got more out of Ronnie than we were ever going to get out of Finnin. Burns was a punt and worth taking for such a low price. No prices for guessing who won that trade.

I am very happy with Burns trade but its Carey trade that gives me the ****s.
*Marty runs and Hides*
 

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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
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I am very happy with Burns trade but its Carey trade that gives me the ****s.
We gave up a half eaten Mars bar and a slightly less valuable Ben Finnin to get Ronnie, so that was a pretty shrewd trade.

Geelong delisted Ben Finnin without a shot fired in anger, and had the pleasure of paying $200,000 of his contract for two years on top of that.

As for the Carey trade, the less said the better. Effectively we gave up the opportunity of having Daniel Wells and one other highly rated junior in the tri-colours for a broken down ex-champion. We dudded ourselves in our eagerness to get him.
 

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Originally posted by macca23
As for the Carey trade, the less said the better. Effectively we gave up the opportunity of having Daniel Wells and one other highly rated junior in the tri-colours for a broken down ex-champion. We dudded ourselves in our eagerness to get him.
Also lost the opportunity to get Pavlich!
 

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Originally posted by macca23
We gave up a half eaten Mars bar and a slightly less valuable Ben Finnin to get Ronnie, so that was a pretty shrewd trade.
Mmmm. Mars bar.

Why did the club cover up this important part of the trade deal?

Surely they could have traded a Marshmallow instead!!
 

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#90
Originally posted by macca23

As for the Carey trade, the less said the better. Effectively we gave up the opportunity of having Daniel Wells and one other highly rated junior in the tri-colours for a broken down ex-champion. We dudded ourselves in our eagerness to get him.
You know macca/rucci ;) back in 02 when Wayne Carey selected the AFC as his preferred option to join i'm pretty sure there was hardly a disconcerting voice among the Crow supporters on BF who actually bemoaned the trade, if so i apologize to those that did.

We all knew it was a gamble in recruiting Wayne but it was a gamble worth taking & i don't blame the AFC hierarchy for doing so, if by some chance we had managed to win our 3rd flag the Wayne Carey coup would have been well worth what we traded for him but things didn't work out the way most of us expected them to that's just the way life is win some lose some & now rebuild for the future with what we have got & hope we can draft a D Wells in the next draft.

As for Wayne Carey i have nothing but admiration for the guy in how he plays his footy, he never was going to be the Carey of old but from the games i have seen him play both live & on the box he always seems to bust his guts for the benefit of the team.
 

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Originally posted by noddy
You know macca/rucci ;) back in 02 when Wayne Carey selected the AFC as his preferred option to join i'm pretty sure there was hardly a disconcerting voice among the Crow supporters on BF who actually bemoaned the trade, if so i apologize to those that did.

You are correct noddy. I was one of those that were delighted to get him, although I did think that we gave up far too much to get him. I seriously thought we would get him for our first round draft pick, not that and the #2 draft pick we got from Richmond.

But in defence of myself and the other poor suckers who were pleased at getting his services at the time, we were sold a load of old cobblers by the footy club - and believed them.

They said that Carey was being drafted as the answer to our lack of a contested marking forward. They said his body had recovered after the lay off, and that they had put him though every possible test, and that he had passed with flying colours.

Obviously, those tests didn't include whether he could raise his arms above his head. They obviously didn't include whether he could bend his back. They obviously didn't put him to any marking contests, as they would have found out that you would have marked more balls overhead with one hand while carrying your walking stick in the other. ;)

Adelaide supporters were given false hope by a load of club bullsh*t from those in charge, who at the same time also gave away the opportunity to build for the future.

Which is why the very same supporters who were led to believe that it was a good thing at the time, now know that it was a short-sighted ill-based decision.
 

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#93
Originally posted by macca23
marked more balls overhead with one hand while carrying your walking stick in the other. ;)
I acknowledge the walking stick :)

Your quite correct in the rest of your post & i agree we gave up too much for him & the club didn't do enough homework before-hand "but" (& i know"but" is a bloody big word) by all accounts at the end of 2002 it was widely proclaimed we was 1 decent forward short of having a real dip at the flag in the next 2 years while we had the nucleus of a premiership winning squad available, i'm not going to go into the reasons why that squad has not delivered as i think that's common knowledge but we rolled the dice & came up short now we carry on with what we've got left with.
 

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Isn't it ironic that the oldest player in the league ie. Alastair Lynch is still kicking bags of goals while the best player in the last decade and a bit can't do the same at a younger age?
 
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#96
Originally posted by noddy

As for Wayne Carey i have nothing but admiration for the guy in how he plays his footy, he never was going to be the Carey of old but from the games i have seen him play both live & on the box he always seems to bust his guts for the benefit of the team.
:) Well Said
 

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Originally posted by noddy

As for Wayne Carey i have nothing but admiration for the guy in how he plays his footy, he never was going to be the Carey of old but from the games i have seen him play both live & on the box he always seems to bust his guts for the benefit of the team.
My criticism is not directed at Carey per se. There is no argument that he does give a big effort. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak!!! He physically just can't do what he used to any more.

The criticism is directed at the club for the reasons previously outlined, for hoodwinking it's supporters that Carey was the answer to our contested marking problems, and in the process mortgaging our future.
 
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#98
Originally posted by macca23
My criticism is not directed at Carey per se. There is no argument that he does give a big effort. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak!!! He physically just can't do what he used to any more.

The criticism is directed at the club for the reasons previously outlined, for hoodwinking it's supporters that Carey was the answer to our contested marking problems, and in the process mortgaging our future.
I think this has gone on infinitum.
Time to look forward, or we all will become tristed and bitter;)
 

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#99
Originally posted by macca23
My criticism is not directed at Carey per se. There is no argument that he does give a big effort. The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak!!! He physically just can't do what he used to any more.

The criticism is directed at the club for the reasons previously outlined, for hoodwinking it's supporters that Carey was the answer to our contested marking problems, and in the process mortgaging our future.
I really beleive he tried on Sunday but the conditions didnt suit him and also the delivery he was getting was rat ****, how can he mark a ball that is more likely to bring rain than anything else:rolleyes:
 
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