Opinion I've lost my faith in Ken Hinkley

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The fuse was lit in 2005
Trade week 2004. Not trading out Thurstans off his 3 goal GF, when his trade value to real value screamed DO IITTTTT!!!! Along with Choco so obsessed with the Carr circus and ego stroking himself, that Port boy and Crows hater Scott Thompson slipped through our fingers to over a decade of blue chip service to our cross town rivals. A clear unambiguous tipping point, even if the various on and off-field crashes at the bottom of hills didn't happen until later.
 

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We need to get busy, would love some guys fresh out of the game from successful regimes e.g Hodge,Silk, McVeigh (if he retired)
Get Josh Francou back.

We need to work out Loobes contract whats happening there is no good for anyone.

We need to start testing the water on senior coaches we dont want to be last man standing.
 

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Ratten is an interesting one

He wasn't as bad as people thought at Carlton, great breeding ground at Hawthorn.

It would be worth a chat

The same could be said of Voss at Brisbane.

And I'm not 100% sold on this "great breeding ground" stuff. Coaches either have a natural aptitude to be a senior coach or they don't. How many of Thompson's Geelong assistants have gone on to big things? Is Leon Cameron setting the world on fire with arguably the most talented list the game has seen? This is why I'm not rushing out and jumping on the Dew bandwagon. He's been an assistant a long time. Does that mean he'll make the progression to gun senior coach a mere formality? Who knows?
What we do know is that Bassett, like Clarkson before him, has served a long apprenticeship in varying roles including success as a senior coach in his own right.

I'm just not sure I'd be jumping on all these guys. Ratten, like Voss, didn't set the world on fire as a senior AFL coach first time around. Maybe he's just destined to be a career assistant. Maybe Dew is too.
 

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The same could be said of Voss at Brisbane.

And I'm not 100% sold on this "great breeding ground" stuff. Coaches either have a natural aptitude to be a senior coach or they don't. How many of Thompson's Geelong assistants have gone on to big things? Is Leon Cameron setting the world on fire with arguably the most talented list the game has seen? This is why I'm not rushing out and jumping on the Dew bandwagon. He's been an assistant a long time. Does that mean he'll make the progression to gun senior coach a mere formality? Who knows?
What we do know is that Bassett, like Clarkson before him, has served a long apprenticeship in varying roles including success as a senior coach in his own right.

I'm just not sure I'd be jumping on all these guys. Ratten, like Voss, didn't set the world on fire as a senior AFL coach first time around. Maybe he's just destined to be a career assistant. Maybe Dew is too.
The difference between those two specifically is that Ratten has seen a 3-peat in action whereas Voss has come here and achieved SFA.

I think the concept of getting people from successful operations has plenty of merit, but it's only one facet that needs to be considered.
 

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Ratten did a good job at Carlton with what he had. Think they played finals 2 years running?
Right now he would be my first choice. Need to dump Ken now as a new coach always starts well with a couple of wins and we need to win our last 3. See ya later Kenny and here's a 6 pack of coke for your trip north.
 

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Ratten did a good job at Carlton with what he had. Think they played finals 2 years running?
Right now he would be my first choice. Need to dump Ken now as a new coach always starts well with a couple of wins and we need to win our last 3. See ya later Kenny and here's a 6 pack of coke for your trip north.
I think he's definitely worth considering along with a few others. Change agent required, status quo stooges need not apply.
 

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It's extremely unlikely that he'll leave the Hawks but if we don't put a 7 figure contract in front of Clarkson then we aren't serious about turning things around.

Outside of that it's really impossible to know who'll make a good senior coach. Beveridge and Pyke were both signed with very little hype and look to be two of the best appointments in recent times. Meanwhile Hird, Voss and Buckley were all supposedly significant coups for their respective clubs!
 

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I'd want Dew back in some way, shape or form.
Has been at a WINNING club with a culture known across the land.
They are hard the way they go about and you can talk about concessions and what all you like, but 14 finals series in 15 years?
They know how to win there.

Someone from Hawthorn wouldn't go down badly as they actually know how to kick a sherrin with consistency over there, we've seem to not know how to do that too well over the past few years.
 

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thread's getting a work out
So to summarise what I have read in this thread today, Ken Hinkley is going to break his contract at Ports to go and coach GCS despite KT and Koch offering him a 5 year multi-million dollar contract extension and Ports are going to get Dew or Ratten to coach them because they come from a winning culture and also get rid of three time premiership captain and Brownlow Medalist assistant coach Voss. o_O
 

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So to summarise what I have read in this thread today, Ken Hinkley is going to break his contract at Ports to go and coach GCS despite KT and Koch offering him a 5 year multi-million dollar contract extension and Ports are going to get Dew or Ratten to coach them because they come from a winning culture and also get rid of three time premiership captain and Brownlow Medalist assistant coach Voss. o_O
Yeah sounds pretty ****ing good :thumbsu:
 

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Wouldn't put to much confidence in sportsbet odds.

Note so the bloke in MMM this morning that called eade getting saked hours before it happened saying they are interested in Dew and Hinkley...
 
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So to summarise what I have read in this thread today, Ken Hinkley is going to break his contract at Ports to go and coach GCS despite KT and Koch offering him a 5 year multi-million dollar contract extension and Ports are going to get Dew or Ratten to coach them because they come from a winning culture and also get rid of three time premiership captain and Brownlow Medalist assistant coach Voss. o_O
I'd be happy to just give the keys to that 75% winning ratio premiership coach we already have.....
 

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So to summarise what I have read in this thread today, Ken Hinkley is going to break his contract at Ports to go and coach GCS despite KT and Koch offering him a 5 year multi-million dollar contract extension and Ports are going to get Dew or Ratten to coach them because they come from a winning culture and also get rid of three time premiership captain and Brownlow Medalist assistant coach Voss. o_O




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