Recommitted Jack Billings [re-signed until 2025]

[Ants]

Lose Dumont but gain billings

Sounds like a decent end result

Not really. During the rebuild you want to prioritise young players who will be with you 10 years if they work out. If you do get an early 20's pick for Dumont, better to use that and try and get a FA next year.

IMO.

 

[Sphynx]

Not really. During the rebuild you want to prioritise young players who will be with you 10 years if they work out. If you do get an early 20's pick for Dumont, better to use that and try and get a FA next year.

IMO.

I agree.

I'd much rather add a Ned Long or Arlo Draper type than a 26/27 year old Billings on a big wage.

We already have one of those types in Polec.

 

[THE_GUN]

I agree.

I'd much rather add a Ned Long or Arlo Draper type than a 26/27 year old Billings on a big wage.

We already have one of those types in Polec.

Comparing Polec to Billings is crazy as billings is a few cogs up in football ability and Polec is just a terrible trade

Ned Long / Arlo Draper are kids you need to draft where Billings is a free agent that wont require a trade just a good contract
I cant see how you compare these 2 situations

 

[Sphynx]

Ned Long / Arlo Draper are kids you need to draft where Billings is a free agent that wont require a trade just a good contract
I cant see how you compare these 2 situations

Do you ever read more than 1 post above the last?

The entire discussion was revolving around Billings actually costing North a low 20’s pick.

So, not so hard to compare the situations...

 

[THE_GUN]

Do you ever read more than 1 post above the last?

The entire discussion was revolving around Billings actually costing North a low 20’s pick.

So, not so hard to compare the situations...

Again its just stupid

North have more salary cap space the the packers have money why would there even be a trade when billings is a free agent
No Chance in the world North trade a pick for a free agent with their current situation.

The argument above as you call it is just stupid spit balling

 

[Sphynx]

Again its just stupid

North have more salary cap space the the packers have money why would there even be a trade when billings is a free agent
No Chance in the world North trade a pick for a free agent with their current situation.

The argument above as you call it is just stupid spit balling

* me.

You really didn’t read the few posts above, again....

 

[Freomaniac]

He’d be a really good option for North if they could get him without having to trade for him.

Would help them meet the minimum salary cap requirements, would provide leadership and experience (he’s in our leadership group), and would compliment all the inside types they’ve recruited recently. And if they front-end his contract, they won’t be paying him much by the time all their recent draftees are requiring bigger contracts.

I am going to ask you an honest question and will demand a civilized reply and don't go all bird_man on me lol.

If a random club offers Jack billings a 4 year deal at $750,000 a year and saints finish around 7th to 11th that means pick 9-14, would the saints accept it?

If a team offers billings a 4 year deal at $600-650,000 a year deal and it's a 2nd rounder around 27-32, would the saints take it or match the bid?

 

[Ants]

Again its just stupid

North have more salary cap space the the packers have money why would there even be a trade when billings is a free agent
No Chance in the world North trade a pick for a free agent with their current situation.

The argument above as you call it is just stupid spit balling

Mate, they're saying their going to lose Dumont to FA, which because they're last on the ladder will get them a pick around 20 odd (before F/S, academy). So bringing in Billings as a FA will cost them that pick.

So the question becomes, is it better for the rebuild to use pick #20 and keep the salary cap, or to bring in Billings.

Maybe, as Sphynx suggested, you could read the posts which were driving the discussion? And maybe not call people stupid when we're having a considered discussion and you can't be arsed to read back what the background was?

 

[TigerTime88]

Mate, they're saying their going to lose Dumont to FA, which because they're last on the ladder will get them a pick around 20 odd (before F/S, academy). So bringing in Billings as a FA will cost them that pick.

So the question becomes, is it better for the rebuild to use pick #20 and keep the salary cap, or to bring in Billings.

Maybe, as Sphynx suggested, you could read the posts which were driving the discussion? And maybe not call people stupid when we're having a considered discussion and you can't be arsed to read back what the background was?

Surely Dumont doesn’t get them pick 20.

 

[Sphynx]

Surely Dumont doesn’t get them pick 20.

Band 3 is only the top 50% of AFL wages prior to age scaling.

 

[TigerTime88]

Band 3 is only the top 50% of AFL wages prior to age scaling.

That’s an absolute rort. He should net a 3rd or 4th.

 

[Rich01]

There's a prospect of us losing Dumont for Band 3, which would be a pick in the low 20's.

Which club is offering Dumont $500k a year?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

That’s an absolute rort. He should net a 3rd or 4th.

Should. Won't

 

[Sphynx]

That’s an absolute rort. He should net a 3rd or 4th.

it would be a pick in the late 30’s for a final side.

It will only be as low as it is because of our finishing position.

Just like Franklin vs Danniher in a hypothetical.

 

[Sphynx]

Which club is offering Dumont $500k a year?

You understand the average AFL wage is only $380k don’t you?

He’s also got close to the max age weighting.

Probably only needs a contract of around $350-400k to get Band 3 given his age.

 

[Dogga6]

Would slot well at the Dees.

 

[BrutThough]

You understand the average AFL wage is only $380k don’t you?

He’s also got close to the max age weighting.

Probably only needs a contract of around $350-400k to get Band 3 given his age.

Brad Crouch got Adelaide band 3 compo for contract meant to be around 500-600k. So no chance a 350-400k contract gets band 3 compo for Dumont.

 

[Sphynx]

Brad Crouch got Adelaide band 3 compo for contract meant to be around 500-600k. So no chance a 350-400k contract gets band 3 compo for Dumont.

Again, you don’t understand the system.

Band 3 captures a huge portion of players from about $500k through to $300k

Crouch was on the upper end closer to Band 2

 

[Rich01]

You understand the average AFL wage is only $380k don’t you?

He’s also got close to the max age weighting.

Probably only needs a contract of around $350-400k to get Band 3 given his age.

Nah. Not at that wage.

 

[THE_GUN]

FMD Who would want dumont and average wage does not mean min wage

100 games in 8 years in the worst team in the comp

 

[WilloTree]

Should. Won't

Man, this system is so broken.

 

[Sphynx]

FMD Who would want dumont and average wage does not mean min wage

100 games in 8 years in the worst team in the comp

We’ve been the worst team in the comp for 8 years?

Dumont has played in multiple winning finals.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Man, this system is so broken.

At least they're not having to trade for a free agent, twice.

 

[THE_GUN]

We’ve been the worst team in the comp for 8 years?

Dumont has played in multiple winning finals.

Dont know how i have missed that
Very Dusty like

 

[Sphynx]

Dont know how i have missed that
Very Dusty like

Acuse me of fantasy spit balling but in the CCJ thread claim he is worth pick 2/3.

You may be in the top 5 worst posters on this forum. Congrats.