Player Watch Jack Crisp

[jackcass]

How high is this guy's ceiling? He just keeps improving, and Bucks' comments in the presser were pretty telling, I thought.

Has now shown he's capable of high 20-30 possession games against good opposition, and is leading or nearly leading club in a number of key stat categories.

Just needs to start nailing gettable set shots and maybe using his height a bit better in marking contests to pretty much be an A grade player.

Thank you Brisbane for not giving us Aish, so very generous to offload your best young midfielder, pick 5 and 25 as well.

Cue ROFL copter / face palm statue pic.

Bucks said all that?

 

[Apex36]

Bucks said all that?

Are you deliberately misinterpreting his post? Clearly that was his own opinion...

 

[jackcass]

Are you deliberately misinterpreting his post? Clearly that was his own opinion...

How perceptive of you

 

[Apex36]

How perceptive of you

In that case, what an irrelevant post that was. Not even funny. You're better than that.

 

[jackcass]

In that case, what an irrelevant post that was. Not even funny. You're better than that.

Suitably admonished... I'll take that on board....

 

[Tbone McGraw]

Crispy is 21, is he? Just amazing.

I think even Hine, Bucks and everyone else at our club would be shocked at what we are getting out of Crispy.

 

[Bay Pie]

Funny listening to Bucks presser. I think it was the recent post match one v West Coast.

They must have asked about Crispo (couldn't hear the journo that well) and Bucks basically said " we had a couple of players in mind " (I believe to complete the deal on top of picks 5 & 25) and we're happy Crispo has come on board.

Sounded like we had Crispo on our radar all along, but thought we could get their 1st 2 draft picks as well. Certainly we would have obtained pick 5, but to get both Crispo & pick 25, was well worth that agonising weekend, where the large majority of our supporters went nuts, thinking we caved for accepting Crispo as the deal clincher.

 

[Baird]

what needs to also be mentioned is that not only did he get 31 possessions he kept Shuey to 13..

Shuey would have got 40 disposals and 2 goals had Beams played on him.

 

[LukeH10]

Shuey would have got 40 disposals and 2 goals had Beams played on him.

Yep and that's why even now I rate Crisp above Beams. As good as Beams was and still is, he only runs one way..

 

[Gone Critical]

Yep and that's why even now I rate Crisp above Beams. As good as Beams was and still is, he only runs one way..

Love what Crisp has done but he is a long way off Beams. Forget using stats as a means of comparison.

Beams is in the top few mids in the comp and can break games open in a way Crisp could only dream of doing.

 

[Unknown Identity]

Crisps season this year was superior to Beams when he was 21.

Probably better comparison rather than 2015 season. Crisp has so much development left in him.

 

[LukeH10]

Love what Crisp has done but he is a long way off Beams. Forget using stats as a means of comparison.

Beams is in the top few mids in the comp and can break games open in a way Crisp could only dream of doing.

Yeah but look at the age gap. Crispy is at the beginning of his career yet he is doing things that Beams has never done in his career.

 

[doodles98]

Crisps season this year was superior to Beams when he was 21.

Probably better comparison rather than 2015 season. Crisp has so much development left in him.

Beams won the Copeland when was was 22

 

[Apex36]

Love what Crisp has done but he is a long way off Beams. Forget using stats as a means of comparison.

Beams is in the top few mids in the comp and can break games open in a way Crisp could only dream of doing.

Could you say the same thing about Beams when he was 21 though? From memory at the same age, Beams had a very similar influence on games to Crisp. Averaging slightly more disposals, and more goals, although Beams played a lot more forward than Crisp, with Crisp averaging 1 more clearance per game and nearly 2 more tackles per game.

Crisp may currently dream of breaking games open like Beams, but on his current trajectory, he could well be doing that by the time he gets to Beams age.

 

[Gone Critical]

Could you say the same thing about Beams when he was 21 though? From memory at the same age, Beams had a very similar influence on games to Crisp. Averaging slightly more disposals, and more goals, although Beams played a lot more forward than Crisp, with Crisp averaging 1 more clearance per game and nearly 2 more tackles per game.

Crisp may currently dream of breaking games open like Beams, but on his current trajectory, he could well be doing that by the time he gets to Beams age.

Yeah he looks to have much greater potential than we would have believed. To reach Beams he has to realise that. Many are called few are chosen when it comes to elite talent. Love it if Crisp gets there

 

[Apex36]

Beams won the Copeland when was was 22

Crisp is not yet 22, so I'm not sure what your point is?

 

[Apex36]

Yeah he looks to have much greater potential than we would have believed. To reach Beams he has to realise that. Many are called few are chosen when it comes to elite talent. Love it if Crisp gets there

I'm a firm believer that in 2-3 years Brisbane supporters will look upon the Beams trade as the club throwing away their future on a single player. Beams is a jet, but to trade away a top 5 pick, second rounder and a player that may well end up almost the equal of Beams himself would cut deep.
Coincidentally, the posters on the Bears board consistently pot DeGoey as being terrible to make themselves feel better. It's quite amusing.

 

[anshell]

Does Beams really break open games the way people are talking?I can't remember him doing that very often when he played for us,and he certainly doesn't seem to be doing that for the Lions either.He was a good accumulator of the ball,but does he really hurt the other team when it really matters?

 

[ottoman]

Does Beams really break open games the way people are talking?I can't remember him doing that very often when he played for us,and he certainly doesn't seem to be doing that for the Lions either.He was a good accumulator of the ball,but does he really hurt the other team when it really matters?

Yeah. I think you will find that there are many occasions where he kicked goals at crucial times. He is a gun, no doubt about it however with the way Crisp is playing, we are not missing him as much as I thought we would have.

 

[xxxWillxxx]

Sounded like we had Crispo on our radar all along, but thought we could get their 1st 2 draft picks as well. Certainly we would have obtained pick 5, but to get both Crispo & pick 25, was well worth that agonising weekend, where the large majority of our supporters went nuts, thinking we caved for accepting Crispo as the deal clincher.

Lets be realistic and not rewrite history. We did cave in but either through good fortune or good management this young bloke has done very well.

 

[Unknown Identity]

Beams won the Copeland when was was 22

That was the year he announced himself when he was 22.

Not 21!

Crisp will win the Copeland next year

 

[Unknown Identity]

Also need to factor in that Beams had played 59 games before his breakout year.

Crisp has only played 33 games.

Let's see what Crisp will produce in 2017 after 2 full seasons.

 

[Bay Pie]

Lets be realistic and not rewrite history. We did cave in but either through good fortune or good management this young bloke has done very well.

If it was through good management as you've suggested, we caved only in supporters eyes.

For all we know, he was a Hine target from the get go, but we held his name back initially as one of the players we were after. I didn't follow Crispo while he was at the Lions, so I wouldn't know. There's little doubt Hine would have been following him.

I thought pick 5 & 25 was a far enough deal anyway.

 

[Vicky Park]

Sounded like we had Crispo on our radar all along, but thought we could get their 1st 2 draft picks as well. Certainly we would have obtained pick 5, but to get both Crispo & pick 25, was well worth that agonising weekend, where the large majority of our supporters went nuts, thinking we caved for accepting Crispo as the deal clincher.

I think this is right, Hine knew what he was doing. I'd never heard of Crisp before his name was thrown up in the deal - not that I have a clue about fringe players at other clubs. But he was definitely on the radar. Thats why Hine and his team get the big dollars - to know this stuff about other clubs' lists.

 

[wicksy]

Beams won the Copeland when was was 22

Crisp could quite possibly win it at 21 the rate he's going.