Player Watch Jack Ginnivan (Traded to P&W 2023)

[BIGNEDKELLY]

Going out the night before?

He was there for an hour and the last race was at about 9.15.

Sounds like a real bender!

Exactly, it’s not like he was having a baby on grand final morning…

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Exactly, it’s not like he was having a baby on grand final morning…

If that were the case there still would have been time for a quick trip to moonee valley the night before…

 

[sideswipe]

Yeah this is fair. You read one article on this and it's like Fly is telling Jack off, listen to him and he sounds relaxed.

I don't think the club will be hiring Redman to execute Jack over the matter but he may face a little fine or something.

A fine? He didn’t breach his contract. Stop with your nonsense.

It just wasn’t a great look.


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[stormskye]

Pie's unorthodox Grand Final prep pays dividends

Jack Ginnivan's decision to spend Grand Final eve at Moonee Valley racetrack raised a few eyebrows, but it didn't stop the livewire providing his trademark energy in an epic decider

www.afl.com.au

This Afl article suggests he had approval from the club.

 

[Kirby]

Not demonstrated onfield.

Rubbish

 

[BigVic]

Media should leave Ginni alone. He is still a young man and his performance yesterday after the media caught him sneaking into the races played a part

 

[Pendles!]

Tough to argue attending the races was a good idea when the coach makes the comments he did in the flag winning presser.

I felt he had an almost game yesterday. Should have kicked that set shot, the one on the run you’d also expect him to kick. If he comes out of it with two goals, it would have been a great return. The kick forward to Hill was absolute s**t though. Needed to put it into space.

I’m not sure what the future holds for Jack. He is clearly very talented, very clean, makes things happen and is generally very damaging with the ball. I just think his athletic traits will hold him back. I want him to succeed with us.

 

[Jen2310]

According to this, he went to the races with the club's blessing. At least the higher ups, maybe fly felt different, but people like Craig Kelly had no issue.

Pie's unorthodox Grand Final prep pays dividends

Jack Ginnivan's decision to spend Grand Final eve at Moonee Valley racetrack raised a few eyebrows, but it didn't stop the livewire providing his trademark energy in an epic decider

www.afl.com.au

 

[10571z]

It’s embarrassing how, what you would suspect normal people buying into media garbage trying to hang our player..

He went to Moonee Valley to watch horses run with a couple of mates.. if he went out for dinner or went to the movies would that be acceptable? Of course it would. It’s just an activity to keep his mind off the huge event the next day.

 

[Jen2310]

'Things weren't going my way': How Pie got back into Fly's side

Riley Beveridge speaks to premiership Pie Jack Ginnivan in the rooms

www.afl.com.au

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

It’s embarrassing how, what you would suspect normal people buying into media garbage trying to hang our player..

He went to Moonee Valley to watch horses run with a couple of mates.. if he went out for dinner or went to the movies would that be acceptable? Of course it would. It’s just an activity to keep his mind off the huge event the next day.

Yep. I’m not buying into this faux outrage though, it’s just feeding the beast.

 

[windchimes]

No there was an undercurrent of annoyance there - not fury - but for me the unspoken extension of "read the room" was "time to own your career and leave adolescence behind".

Ginni is a great kid but he is playing with fire - average AFL careers are SHORT and Bobby is already taking the Lions (sic) share of the attention as a small forward.

If he doesn't focus he could easily find himself looking for another club - not so much because of his social actions per se but because of the perceived lack of focus on a career millions of kids would kill for.

Ante up Ginni and be the player you can be . . Fly will back you as will the coaching staff and player group but you need to own it.

Rewatching it again - with all respect, it’s pretty clear you’re talking shite.

Fly was pretty laid back and jovial when talking about Ginnivan attending the races for an hour on Friday - was chuckling as he said ‘read the room Jack!’

Pretty sure it’s a total non-event in the club’s eyes.

 

[gouki88]

McRae saying he "will learn" is a political way to say that it wasn't a brief or sober or early Friday outing. Why not just say it was a boring night the club green lighted? The fact it needs consequence indicates something.

Jack will need to grow sooner rather than later or risk wasting his career.

Complete invention of your imagination. How do you know what he meant?

 

[gouki88]

Rewatching it again - with all respect, it’s pretty clear you’re talking shite.

Fly was pretty laid back and jovial when talking about Ginnivan attending the races for an hour on Friday - was chuckling as he said ‘read the room Jack!’

Pretty sure it’s a total non-event in the club’s eyes.

Yep, complete beat-up. Have people never been young?

 

[Jen2310]

Come full circle, Kane haha

 

[domin8tors]

As a Dir Football explained it to us. It goes from Sunny having a meal at the pub with his wife drinking lemonade, to Sunny at the pub, to Sunny drinking, to Sunny pissed at the pub, to Sunny being locked up, to half the team being out on the tear and locked up pissed - ‘no wonder they lost. Did you hear about last night?’

Not what sponsors want to hear. Best to stay away from all places that serve alcohol after Tuesday.

ah yes but the same thing can be said about idle hands sitting at home are tools of the devil. at some point you need to trust the people

 

[pablo disco bar]

Leave THE KID alone

 

[Jen2310]

Leave THE KID alone

The kid is happy. Love. A flag. A bond with teammates that'll last forever. Good end to the year for Jack.

 

[sr36]

And he was home by 10pm apparently with a warm milo on his bedside table.

Yep. They didn't use the cocaine that they'd bought in case the horse won.

 

[sr36]

To be honest, he has a lot of work to do on many areas of his game. I'm not sure he's going to have a super long career. Needs to add speed off the mark and improve his leading patterns and marking

I think he has to develop into a mid and I think he's got the potential.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I think he has to develop into a mid and I think he's got the potential.

 

[augie]

Suspect Fly is disappointed in him for the sole reason that it wasn't a good decision to go to the races. It was a mistake, but learn from it and move on, making better decisions as you go.

 

[Jen2310]

Suspect Fly is disappointed in him for the sole reason that it wasn't a good decision to go to the races. It was a mistake, but learn from it and move on, making better decisions as you go.

Then fly didn't get the memo, it was ticked off by the club. Even Craig Kelly had no issue at all.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Contrast his game to Bobby Hill’s,who was just incredible.There’s a huge gulf in talent between the two of them.

Bobby Hill is 3 years older and has lived his own learning experiences. Family. Health crisis. People get to where they’re going in different ways.

 

[BIGNEDKELLY]

Bobby Hill is 3 years older and has lived his own learning experiences. Family. Health crisis. People get to where they’re going in different ways.

Let's not underestimate the effort and commitment a 20 month old child takes....