Player Watch Jack Lukosius

[Lagooner]

Finlayson, Todd & Lukosius in the same side could be one of the worst forward lines you'll ever see if they parry up an off day all at the same time. Three space cadets wandering around without a mission.

Westhoff as Forwards Coach/Mission Control.

 

[portly]

We should sack our forwards coach irregardless.

I don't think Chad has much idea of forwards' movement and structure.

Will they move the line coaches around?

 

[ploppy]

i cant get the westhoff directed finlayson\marshall\lukosius forward line out of my head....it doesnt sound very aggressive

 

[Schulzenfest]

But you also need to consider Gold Coast has just been handing out players or picks for unders for years.

So fair enough we shouldn't expect to be the club they finally look to extract high value from - especially for a player it seems their coach is very happy to let go.

Of course we should. Make enough soft trades like we did last year and other clubs start to identify you as a soft target.

If Luko had asked for a trade to Collingwood, GC wouldn't have even bothered asking for a first round pick. We on the other hand would probably give them Butters for him if they asked nicely enough.

 

[drcollossimo]

Of course we should. Make enough soft trades like we did last year and other clubs start to identify you as a soft target.

If Luko had asked for a trade to Collingwood, GC wouldn't have even bothered asking for a first round pick. We on the other hand would probably give them Butters for him if they asked nicely enough.

Last seasons bat shit crazy stuff with Soldo and Esava only made this reputation worse

 

[philthy05]

Of course we should. Make enough soft trades like we did last year and other clubs start to identify you as a soft target.

If Luko had asked for a trade to Collingwood, GC wouldn't have even bothered asking for a first round pick. We on the other hand would probably give them Butters for him if they asked nicely enough.

Crows fans were adamant that luko was worth a second round pick only, and while we can only guess now, I would bet my house that is what the crows would have offered and probably wouldn’t have deviated much other than sweeteners.


I’m 100% positive that were seen as a soft target. Essendon and geelongs positions on esava and Orazio were widely mocked by neutrals on here until we paid up. No one saw that soldo deal coming, 2 2nds and we had to uograde their pick as well? lol.

Were the shmuck the car salesman sees coming and quickly adds another 0 to the end of the price of the unsellable piece of shit car with a shit eating grin.


As we speak west coast is arguing for the same return that we’re being told to accept for Dan on a 29yr old defender whose never played a full season in his career and a back so cooked he’s one twitch away from operating a wheelchair by sip and puff.

 

[Willsy10]

I don’t think our recent trading has been bad. I think it’s actually yielded some very good results.

I just think we naturally overrate our players and underrate opposition players. Most clubs supporters do this though, not just us.

For instance, most of this board was spitting chips about the Howard and ladhams trades. But they are two very ordinary footballers and we probably did well to get as much out of them as we did.

Off the top of my head in our current team we’ve traded in JHF, Rioli, Allir, Sweet and Finlayson all for pretty good deals.

I felt like I was on my own a bit with this one but getting BZT plus steak knives for Duursma was a good deal for us too.

Soldo looks like a miss but we hardly sold the farm for him.

Not looking great with Esava either but that is too early to call just yet. I think he was always going to be a slow burn, his experience playing in defence was minimal. Gives us some versatility at the very least.

We’ve overall had more hits than misses at the trade table.

This idea that we role over and die at the trade table and are pathetic cucks, is quite frankly rubbish.




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[Revan11]

I don’t think our recent trading has been bad. I think it’s actually yielded some very good results.

I just think we naturally overrate our players and underrate opposition players. Most clubs supporters do this though, not just us.

For instance, most of this board was spitting chips about the Howard and ladhams trades. But they are two very ordinary footballers and we probably did well to get as much out of them as we did.

Off the top of my head in our current team we’ve traded in JHF, Rioli, Allir, Sweet and Finlayson all for pretty good deals.

I felt like I was on my own a bit with this one but getting BZT plus steak knives for Duursma was a good deal for us too.

Soldo looks like a miss but we hardly sold the farm for him.

Not looking great with Esava either but that is too early to call just yet. I think he was always going to be a slow burn, his experience playing in defence was minimal. Gives us some versatility at the very least.

We’ve overall had more hits than misses at the trade table.

This idea that we role over and die at the trade table and are pathetic cucks, is quite frankly rubbish.




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Sweet working out has saved us from disaster.

Will be interesting to see what we get in return for Soldo to really see how if worked out for us in that trade.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Finlayson, Todd & Lukosius in the same side could be one of the worst forward lines you'll ever see if they parry up an off day all at the same time. Three space cadets wandering around without a mission.

I sat through Howard/Westhoff/Ryder against GWS in 2019 and Dixon/Ratugolea for 3 quarters after Marshall went off against Melbourne this year. I welcome the mercurial triumvirate if Georgiades misses.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Sweet working out has saved us from disaster.

Will be interesting to see what we get in return for Soldo to really see how if worked out for us in that trade.

Trading in them both saved us from disaster. We actively decided to overpay for rucks by getting 2 of them to ensure we didn't have to sit through another 2023 type season where ruck is an enormous void where we get killed every week.

We traded 41, 49, 2024 2nd for Soldo and Pick 50.

50 went for Sweet, so we effectively paid 41, 49 and our 2024 second (which will end up being something like pick 35) for Sweet, plus whatever we get for Soldo in return.

If you assume that is a late 2nd or so, it's effectively a late 2nd + 49 for Sweet in the wash. Not bad at all for a 1st ruck Port supporter who will only get better as he gets into his prime.

Better to be safe than sorry, I don't mind the Soldo trade. The Ratugolea trade is worse IMO, but he still played some pretty good footy in defence. He should never play forward again.

 

[Jonts]

Trading in them both saved us from disaster. We actively decided to overpay for rucks by getting 2 of them to ensure we didn't have to sit through another 2023 type season where ruck is an enormous void where we get killed every week.

We traded 41, 49, 2024 2nd for Soldo and Pick 50.

50 went for Sweet, so we effectively paid 41, 49 and our 2024 second (which will end up being something like pick 35) for Sweet, plus whatever we get for Soldo in return.

If you assume that is a late 2nd or so, it's effectively a late 2nd + 49 for Sweet in the wash. Not bad at all for a 1st ruck Port supporter who will only get better as he gets into his prime.

Better to be safe than sorry, I don't mind the Soldo trade. The Ratugolea trade is worse IMO, but he still played some pretty good footy in defence. He should never play forward again.

It was Fremantles 2nd that we traded to Richmond when we split the pick that we traded for Soldo wasn't it? The first pick we have this year is the natural port 2nd

The 24' first was traded for Soldo and Esava essentially

 

[Watto71]

What would it cost us to get Lukosisius and pick 13 if we take his full cost of contract

 

[PJ Power]

What would it cost us to get Lukosisius and pick 13 if we take his full cost of contract

I’d do that for our first and second round draft picks in 2025.

Then work with NM for the two first rounders we need for Houston including one in 2025.

Then St Kilda for a F2R for Soldo.

 

[DaTBird187]

I’d do that for our first and second round draft picks in 2025.

Then work with NM for the two first rounders we need for Houston including one in 2025.

Then St Kilda for a F2R for Soldo.

Three firsts a second and Lukosius for Houston and our future first and second? I like it.

 

[MrChow]

If we can’t scrape together enough to upgrade our 2nd - A future 1st for Jack and GC Pick 23 would be fair. Some flexibility with who pays what of his salary.

Could hold Houston for another year.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Crows fans were adamant that luko was worth a second round pick only, and while we can only guess now, I would bet my house that is what the crows would have offered and probably wouldn’t have deviated much other than sweeteners.

Yeah but a club at the bottom of the ladder talking about a second round pick is pretty different to a club at the top of the ladder.

Their 2nd round pick is closer to our first than it is to our second.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Rumours that Richmond are trying to get him and have huge draft capital.

 

[Rash]

Rumours that Richmond are trying to get him and have huge draft capital.

Source?

I highly doubt this

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

We are going to use a future 1st rounder to get this deal done after all aren't we?

 

[Rash]

 

[Port2Power]

Hopefully future 2nd for Lukosius as we are taking his 2.5 million salary as well and being asked to look around suggests he isn't in their best 22 in season 2025

 

[JakeNeadeFan]

If a future first is going then a second must be coming back the other way

 

[Schulzenfest]

If a future first is going then a second must be coming back the other way

If a good club was negotiating yes, but this is Port Adelaide we're talking about. The tweet explicitly says 'nothing significant' coming back.

When the club (repeatedly) tells you how incompetent it is, it's time to stop disbelieving.

 

[shewho]

Hopefully future 2nd for Lukosius as we are taking his 2.5 million salary as well and being asked to look around suggests he isn't in their best 22 in season 2025

Not happening. You won’t get Luko for a 10 pick downgrade.

We offered him a 6 year big money contract. He’s a former pick 2 from a super draft. If we play silly buggers he could still go to Adelaide or elsewhere.

Before he was drafted, people at Port described him as a franchise player. We have spoken to him regularly over the last 6 or 7 years.

F1, give or take some change, is the price- get used to it.

 

[Jonts]

That is the type of deal you'd want a top ten protection on NBA style