Delisted Jack Martin [Selected by Carlton in the PSD]

[Blackas87]

Forget all the gobbledy goop, I don't care for any of that. There is only 2 possible reasons for the way you are posting in here, you either believe GC will do the things you say or you are trolling.

Pick one and stick to it, I am happy to just label you as a troll if you refuse to state otherwise.

I only keep posting because I keep getting notifications of people replying to my posts. All my posts are replying back to people replying to me. Such as this one. I’m not coming on here posting random posts all the time.

I stated, GC didn’t accept the trade offer knowing they had pick one. It was reported that the Suns and Jack were to have a meeting this week. It would not Surprise me if they offered him a one year deal allowing him to be a free agent and the club can get something in return , Jack knows they have pick one and he doesn’t want to get stuck there on a long term deal.

 

[Skull Face]

I only keep posting because I keep getting notifications of people replying to my posts. All my posts are replying back to people replying to me. Such as this one. I’m not coming on here posting random posts all the time.

I stated, GC didn’t accept the trade offer knowing they had pick one. It was reported that the Suns and Jack were to have a meeting this week. It would not Surprise me if they offered him a one year deal allowing him to be a free agent and the club can get something in return , Jack knows they have pick one and he doesn’t want to get stuck there on a long term deal.

So you believe they will, glad we could finally sort that one out.

 

[Blackas87]

So you believe they will, glad we could finally sort that one out.

I don’t know if they will, just wouldn’t be surprised. Glad you’ve worked out what I’ve been saying all along.

 

[Skull Face]

I don’t know if they will, just wouldn’t be surprised. Glad you’ve worked out what I’ve been saying all along.

You are trolling then, I knew we would get there in the end.

 

[Blackas87]

You are trolling then, I knew we would get there in the end.

Trolling? Lol, how so? Just because you say it?

I haven’t had a crack at any club or poster on here. Simply put something the Suns could do and should do in my opinion, it hasn’t been reported anywhere that the Suns will do that, just something I thought they could do.

you think it’s trolling?
Sorry if I’ve offended or upset you Skull Face, I apologise.

 

[Love the Drake]

Hmmm. GC, Carlton and Melbourne fans niggling at each other over a player they all want.
Carlton because they want Martin and he wants them.
GC because they want him, but he doesn’t want them, so his new suitor (Carlton) has to pay.
Melbourne because they want him for nothing (but he doesn’t want them).

BF love triangle at its best!!

 

[manang magoos]

Trolling? Lol, how so? Just because you say it?

I haven’t had a crack at any club or poster on here. Simply put something the Suns could do and should do in my opinion, it hasn’t been reported anywhere that the Suns will do that, just something I thought they could do.

you think it’s trolling?
Sorry if I’ve offended or upset you Skull Face, I apologise.

Hey is this the old Monty Python 5 minute argument or the full half hour

 

[Blackas87]

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Sorry not sure what Monty Pythons has to do with the topic at hand ?

 

[Lore]

How meta. If the best thing you can think of is to make a post about someone else's posting, then please just don't bother.

 

[Andy_Mac]

TheBoss the players are employed by the AFL and contracted out to the clubs.

Think of the AFL as a labour hire agency. You go get a job with the labour hire agency and they send you out to various employers. The company you get sent to still has all of the duty of care requirements that a normal employee has, but they can move you on with c. 24hrs notice.

Back on topic.

GC are mad not to just resign/redraft him and trade him out next year (or get the FA compo).

He’s the best available player in the PSD, makes them a better side over the next 12 months and they can go again trying to trade him next year.

 

[Elmer_Judd]

TheBoss the players are employed by the AFL and contracted out to the clubs.

Think of the AFL as a labour hire agency. You go get a job with the labour hire agency and they send you out to various employers. The company you get sent to still has all of the duty of care requirements that a normal employee has, but they can move you on with c. 24hrs notice.

Back on topic.

GC are mad not to just resign/redraft him and trade him out next year (or get the FA compo).

He’s the best available player in the PSD, makes them a better side over the next 12 months and they can go again trying to trade him next year.

Suns are fully entitled to do that, and assuming if they do (not convinced they will), Carlton should cut their losses and walk away. Not going to lose any sleep if we don't get him, he isn't worth what his contract asking price is if he goes into the PSD anyway.

But it does seem certain now he is going into the PSD, think the cut off date to nominate for the ND is Monday.

 

[Mikevk123]

Cudos to the Blues for getting it done if it does happen.

Pretty much land Pittonet,Betts,Newnes and Martin for for a 54 and a future Fourth.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Suns are fully entitled to do that, and assuming if they do (not convinced they will), Carlton should cut their losses and walk away. Not going to lose any sleep if we don't get him, he isn't worth what his contract asking price is if he goes into the PSD anyway.

But it does seem certain now he is going into the PSD, think the cut off date to nominate for the ND is Monday.

Or Martin re-signs a 1 year deal with GC to take him through to free agency.

 

[manang magoos]

Or Martin re-signs a 1 year deal with GC to take him through to free agency.

Your records stuck Kane

 

[GatesOfHell]

Cudos to the Blues for getting it done if it does happen.

Pretty much land Pittonet,Betts,Newnes and Martin for for a 54 and a future Fourth.

54 and a future fourth is overs for Pittonet, Newnes and an over the hill Betts, so they’d want to secure Martin.

 

[manang magoos]

54 and a future fourth is overs for Pittonet, Newnes and an over the hill Betts, so they’d want to secure Martin.

Will wait and see who is shouting loudest when Eddie kicks the sealer against your bruise free mob

 

[Andy_Mac]

Will wait and see who is shouting loudest when Eddie kicks the sealer against your bruise free mob

Eddie is a champion of the game, but he’s cooked mate.

Will pull some stuff out of his arse from time to time, but his days as a 40 goal a year forward are well behind him.

 

[Love the Drake]

Eddie is a champion of the game, but he’s cooked mate.

Will pull some stuff out of his arse from time to time, but his days as a 40 goal a year forward are well behind him.

Carlton aren’t expecting Eddie to kick 40 goals. In fact, only two small forwards - Cameron and Walters, who had career best years, kicked 40 goals or more in 2019.

25-30 goals and mentoring our young forwards and indigenous players is why we recruited Eddie.

Eddie is a lower risk than Bennell, who many Melbourne fans, yourself included, are hoping to get for nothing.

Will be extra nice when Martin walks to us for a pittance as well.

 

[Andy_Mac]

Carlton aren’t expecting Eddie to kick 40 goals. In fact, only Cameron and Walters, who had career best years, kicked 40 goals or more in 2019.

25-30 goals and mentoring our young forwards and indigenous players is why we recruited Eddie.

Eddie is a lower risk than Bennell, who many Melbourne fans, yourself included, are hoping to get for nothing.

Will be extra nice when Martin walks to us for a pittance as well.

Bennell is a free hit, and I agree much more risk but for much more reward. Not that Bennell has anything to do with the post from the fan boi I was replying to.

Notwithstanding, Eddie in my mind will kick a goal a game and play maybe 15 matches. He’ll certainly be worth it

 

[sregit]

Carlton aren’t expecting Eddie to kick 40 goals. In fact, only Cameron and Walters, who had career best years, kicked 40 goals or more in 2019.

25-30 goals and mentoring our young forwards and indigenous players is why we recruited Eddie.

Eddie is a lower risk than Bennell, who many Melbourne fans, yourself included, are hoping to get for nothing.

Will be extra nice when Martin walks to us for a pittance as well.

Pittance! The only thing Pittance you'll get is Martin's contribution. Ordinary player asking for huge money.

 

[Monkey King]

TheBoss the players are employed by the AFL and contracted out to the clubs.

Think of the AFL as a labour hire agency. You go get a job with the labour hire agency and they send you out to various employers. The company you get sent to still has all of the duty of care requirements that a normal employee has, but they can move you on with c. 24hrs notice.

It’s a reasonable, but untested, argument. Being that an uncontracted player doesn’t have the option of signing with a competitor, at competitive rates, the courts may not consider these scenarios at all analogous.

 

[Andy_Mac]

It’s a reasonable, but untested, argument. Being that an uncontracted player doesn’t have the option of signing with a competitor, at competitive rates, the courts may not consider these scenarios at all analogous.

But he’s not working for Carlton or GC, he’s working for the AFL. If he chooses not to go to work at the company (the club) his employer (the AFL) nominates (the draft etc) then he gets to resign as an AFL player.

 

[TheKITC]

Let's say Jack Martin has been told by the Suns that they will re-draft him in the PSD for arguments sake.

I'm not really clear on the rules, but could Martin 'retire'? I know this is weird as he is OoC, but he then may be able to be picked up in the pre-season supplementary selection period? Shane Mumford was and he was retired. Is there any requirement that the player has nominated for the most recent draft or is it simply up to the AFL to tick off anyone who wishes to be listed this way?

Obviously this is a sh*t show of a way to get to your club of choice, but a possibility? Carlton could rookie list him, pay him whatever they see fit and then just elevate him the next year.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

But he’s not working for Carlton or GC, he’s working for the AFL. If he chooses not to go to work at the company (the club) his employer (the AFL) nominates (the draft etc) then he gets to resign as an AFL player.

That argument wouldn't hold up in court. Whether someone is "employed" is not as simple as the words in their contract.

 

[manang magoos]

But he’s not working for Carlton or GC, he’s working for the AFL. If he chooses not to go to work at the company (the club) his employer (the AFL) nominates (the draft etc) then he gets to resign as an AFL player.

How is an employee of the AFL