Eagles are very low key and respectful in trading. They dont play things out in the media until post season and even then it seems to be a lot less dramatic than other clubs.
Delisted Jack Martin [Selected by Carlton in the PSD]
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Eagles are very low key and respectful in trading. They dont play things out in the media until post season and even then it seems to be a lot less dramatic than other clubs.
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We have two seconds this year. Obviously the gold coast wont take that for Martin (or they might if he has another downish season) but it wouldnt be hard to flip those for a mid first rounder i dont think.
Then we might have a chance
The issue though for us will be cap space.
Stringer, Smith, Shiel and Saad would be on considerable coin and Joe signed a pretty big extension at the end of 2017.
You add to that players like Francis, Parish and Tippa out of contract this year (and a bigger list next year) then I dont know how we squeeze Martin in.
eth-dog
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I honestly don't think we'll get him.
Not sure about easily converting two 2nd rounders to a mid first. Eagles teied that last season to land T Kelly and couldnt get anyone interested.
I recall Swans offered pick 13 for two early second rounders but Cats wanted a top 10 pick. Well actually they were never negotiating in good faith TBH.
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Agree, most thought we would be middle to bottom and ....... It's not like we knew it would be a premiership season.
We definitely have a better trade relationship with you than Fremantle at the very least
Pick 2 for Weller and 42
or
Bennell (pre-horrendously consistent calf injuries) and pick 22 for pick 16 and 35
they've bent us over the table every in every exchange we've had
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Weller yes, Bennell no. There was massive risk in Bennell and he came with a suitable discount. The end result see's you coming out miles ahead in that trade due to entirely foreseeable circumstances that both clubs were aware of. Dont think you can say you got screwed over in the Bennell trade
So the Weller one.. yes a little bit, However you get a player that wants to be there and will stay long term...payed overs but probably worth it.
and regarding Bennell, at the time it looked that way, however he wasn't doing you guys any favours (and freo for that matter), I have done some checking on that trade, quite interesting!
You guys gave Bennell, 22, for 16 and 35, then traded 35, 61 for 56, 2016 (2R)
so
Bennell, 22, 61 for 16, 56, 2016 (2R)
which equates to
Out
Bennell (2 games)
Sam Collins ( 14 games, delisted) funnily enough now on GC list
Shane Yarran (6 Games, deceased)
Through 2016 (R2) trades
Cedric Cox ( 12 Games Brisbane)
Joe Atley ( 3 Games Port)
Total 37 games with Bennell the only one on freo (list currently injured) both cox and Atley still at their clubs
In
Fiorini (26 Games)
M.Willis (5 games, Delisted)
Hanley (16 Games)
Brad Scheer ( 10 Games)
and Sam Collins back on your list
Total 57 Games + collins all except Willis on your list....
I'd say you won that one as it stands
Not sure it was 'entirely foreseeable circumstances'. He had some calf issues at the SUNS but he still played the majority of every season he was with us including finishing the 2015 season strongly and playing 15 games throughout the year. the reason he was moved on was his behavioural issues, which have hardly been the reason that he hasn't played.
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Yeah i meant more the academy teams that want draft points. But that obviously depends on whether there are any prospects they want to move up for (i.e if Essendon and GWS finish the same as last year the seconds equate to pick 12ish combined).
Otherwise, yeah teams are unlikely to want to do that trade. Two seconds is unlikely to get GCS attention for Martin too.
Would like at Essendon.
Don't see how we get a deal done. Pretty sure we can't trade another 1st rd pick...unless we ask the AFL for permission.
Which may be ok given Martin is young, our list is young, and we aren't at risk of selling the future for a short term gamble.
That said, i don't know if the club would view him as a priority anymore.
Or at least, not priority enough to try extend another year out of the 1st rd.
we have a good 22, but depth is becoming a problem. A run of injuries and we start to plumb VFL standard players.
Don't see how we get a deal done. Pretty sure we can't trade another 1st rd pick...unless we ask the AFL for permission.
Which may be ok given Martin is young, our list is young, and we aren't at risk of selling the future for a short term gamble.
That said, i don't know if the club would view him as a priority anymore.
Or at least, not priority enough to try extend another year out of the 1st rd.
we have a good 22, but depth is becoming a problem. A run of injuries and we start to plumb VFL standard players.
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eth-dog
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Honestly can't see him leaving GC for another straggler like Carlton. Wouldn't be surprised if North were a contender for his services.
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Carlton fans: we have 22 former first round draft picks on our list, enormous amounts of elite youth who are all about to break out.
Also Carlton fans: we have ample room to accommodate a very healthy salary for any trade target we want.
No Carlton fans ever: we may lose some of our elite youth because we won't pay them competitive salaries so that we can try and recruit more players all the while continuing to finish bottom of the ladder.
eth-dog
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Martin is pretty much the perfect player for them at this stage, they need that small forward, which Simpkin may be, but he can split his time between midfield and forward.
supernova_
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Martin isn't that small about 185-188cm or something from memory. I certainly don't consider him in the "small" category on our list.
eth-dog
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Luke Breust is around the 185 mark as well, Jake Melksham too. They're classified as small forwards.
eth-dog
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I think you're be pedantic but oh well, whatever floats your boat.
If they had a war chest wouldn’t Polec, pittard and hall have drained like $1.4-$1.7mil of that?
Not that teams don’t find a way to fit players in if they need to but I don’t buy they have a war chest.
And leave nothing to land Josh Kelly North's number 1 target?
They've only been chasing the guy for three years and he's out of contract.
They threw $1m at Gaff last season so that money would have gone to cover those others.
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