Jacko

[ApplecrossWC]

Haha.

I always laugh when idiots say things like "I tell it like it is" or "I say what I think, if people have a problem with that, **** em" or "I wear my heart on my sleeve, so what?"

They're basically saying "I am a ******* idiot with no self control or self awareness"

If everyone said what we thought the whole world would be a nightmare, its just that most sensible people are able to bite their tongue. It's called tact.

You sound like one of those petite flowers who prefer lies instead of the truth

 

[SwampCreature]

What Jacko's just done is book himself out for the next one year and nine months.

 

[SwampCreature]

What Jacko just did was fully book his calendar with sportsman's nights for the next 5 years

Jacko's probably now booked out for the next 3 years.

Yeah sorry didn't see this.

Shit sorry should have read the thread.

 

[JoeHawk]

the game was never clean under the andrew demitriou era

Huh? I think I know where you're going.

 

[SwampCreature]

Heard he used to shove coke up his ass and live in a caravan park with the united patriots front.

Srs q - why up his ass

 

[Lenny78]

Srs q - why up his ass

Because chopper used to trust him with absolutely everything.

 

[Freomaniac]

Yeah good riddance to that greedy prick!

as crazy as his interview is He made some good points i can understand why jacko would dislike a guy like demitriou as demitriou has made millions for doing bugger all.

 

[treefingers]

He made a good point about the need for a centralised body that is in control of the laws of Australia Rules Football - i.e. a separate entity to the AFL ( the league itself).

Although he didn't quite put it like that. LEMMMEE FINIISSH MOIKE

 

[Freomaniac]

Huh? I think I know where you're going.

You can deny it. But Demitriou was pro victorian and cared for the money.

Fair point to jacko. Journalists have pot shotted many people and made money out of it. Caroline wilson is a prime example if this.They should not be immune to critism. If they cant handle being copped crap, they are hypocrites.

I can see why Jacko would have a intense dislike of someone of Andrew Demitriou. As Demitriou made bucket loads of money from 2003-2014 for sitting on his bum. while jacko famously said in his best contract he got paid $12,200 at the cats and was fined $18,500 for that year

For all the amounts of money that the AFL makes, Its criminal for the amount of money the AFL gives to local and country footy

 

[stax on the mull]

Sheahan did play 55 games for Werribee in the VFA, he's been covering Football since the late 60's. He's seen a lot of games, the journos are all going to be on a hiding to nowhere. It still happens today, nobody likes Tony Jones, Hutchy, Caro or Damien Barrett, so what? Jacko does have a heart, but he also suffers some sort of pyschotic disorder and that was plainly evident in this interview. I'm pretty sure Graeme Richmond didn't tell him to go seeking out Michael Roach and knock him out? Brian Taylor was also a casualty of the over flow of Richmond big men at the time. They also had David Cloke in the team. In effect Jacko was 4th on the list behind Roach, Cloke, BT and then came Jacko despite him kicking 131 goals in the reserves in the 1980 season. His two seasons at Melbourne were excellent, but he couldn't get along with Barassi. He mentions Crosswell, but Crosswell knew Barassi better than anyone. Jacko is his own worst enemy. He need not blame anybody but himself for not playing 200 games and kicking 700 or 800 goals.

Not specifically disputing your points, but I've heard a couple of other players from the 70's in interviews say similar to Jacko to suggest that it was a bit of kill or be killed culture in the VFL at the time - more so that if you were in the reserves pushing for a place in the seniors, it would be the senior player who would try and keep you out of his spot by injuring you at training.

Also, I heard Brent Crosswell say in a radio interview that towards the latter half of his career he began to feel a kind of ennui with the regimentation of football coaching methods and he admired where Jacko was trying to take the game with his theatrics and the aspect of entertaining the crowd. The admiration is obviously mutual.

One thing that wasn't mentioned in the interview were the comments of racism that aboriginal players would have been subjected to from Jacko. Phil Egan has spoken publicly about this - but it was interesting to hear that Jacko shared a house with Benny Vigona when he was playing with South Fremantle and that after his football career was over he said he helped Maurice Rioli out by playing in a charity match in the Northern Territory when asked.

As some people might know he also left, or was sacked from South Fremantle in controversial circumstances on the eve of (I believe) the 2nd semi final in 1979 when the other South Femantle players voted and endorsed another player (Ray Bauskis) to take his full foward role. It seemed like in that interview Jacko agreed that he had injured the previous full forward (likely it was Bauskis who was injured most of the year) at training earlier in the season. South did lose that Grand Final after being favourites.

I don't know enough about his backround to speculate where his attitutes about violence and his ignorant nicknames for aborigines came from, but he seems to be a product of the times.

 

[Nikita Blue]

I didn't watch as I had to wash my hair but did he really say with respect to women's football that females should not be inseminated in football?

 

[Big Fresh]

I will say this though.

a) Like many have said, while his dislike of Mike is clearly real, the way he was gibbering on was obviously playing it up. He even slipped a few looks down the camera during it to indicate that was the case.

b) I really enjoyed the opportunity to see Mike getting all sooky. He really is incredibly thin-skinned. Why would anyone care if someone this foolish says they don't like you over and over again? That interview was one step up from being abused by a crazy homeless guy on the street. The fact that Mike got so stroppy about Jacko saying he didn't like him repeatedly was hilarious. And I particularly liked Mike bristling about how he's spoken to 150 of the game's greatest figures and was the chief football writer for the major paper in Victoria etc. I couldn't disagree more with the poster who earlier said that most people would have walked out. Most people I know wouldn't have taken Jacko even slightly seriously and would have laughed it all off. Mike really showcased why Clarkson calls him "precious". And that alone was worth tolerating all of Jacko's nonsensical ravings. We learnt more about Mike than Jacko during that interview.

Eh, he couldn't really win. If he just copped it and laughed off someone disrespecting him to his face, people would still be going on about what a spineless bitch he is.

 

[MUYB]

Mark Jackson's a ****ing psychopath, good riddance.

 

[Farm Boy]

He made a good point about the need for a centralised body that is in control of the laws of Australia Rules Football - i.e. a separate entity to the AFL ( the league itself).

Although he didn't quite put it like that. LEMMMEE FINIISSH MOIKE

I've always said that. The game of the AFL needs to be taken off of this current mob. They don't own the sport of Aussie Rules. They might think they do. They go around changing the rules willy nilly, and that largely affects country football. I don't think the AFL should have that right. Paul Roos is often quite vocal about the rule changes made by the AFL. I would trust a guy like Roos to chair an independent committee (separate from the AFL).

 

[Percel]

One of the funnies things I've seen in ages, cracked me up.

 

[windyhill]

Messy, from the first minute to the last.

 

[Mr Mister]

Jacko would be absolutely loving all of this negative attention, he's got everyone talking and he's back in the limelight once again.

He's a lunatic and a somewhat frightening individual, however he's business savy and he's accomplished what he wanted from the interview.

If you want a much better and interesting interview with Jacko, find his JYB SEN podcast with Harford from a couple of years ago. He had none of the aggression and had many great stories.

 

[Dacksaredown]

Heard he used to shove coke up his ass and live in a caravan park with the united patriots front.

Full bottles or empties?

 

[MUYB]

Full bottles or empties?

Unscrew it, chuck a few mentos in, cap back on and away he goes.

 

[master bate]

Just watching it now.

He's mad, that's for sure, and in denial about his career I think. Or maybe really doesn't care.

Most of his opinions on the clubs, the league, rules, corporate takeover etc aren't all that silly though. I think most of us would agree with him a fair bit. Similarly the game has lost characters. And I can't blame him for hating Mike. Mike was the Caro or Barrett of his time and whilst he did a lot of good work he wasn't afraid to tip blokes in.

 

[Hawk Dork]

He went into that interview with one thought If I finish one of my stories they wont need to pay money to get the ending.

 

[galindez]

You sound like one of those petite flowers who prefer lies instead of the truth

If we always said what we thought, none of us would have jobs or relationships

 

[Dacksaredown]

If we always said what we thought, none of us would have jobs or relationships

Did Jacko get a divorce?

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

All a wind up

Playing the nutter is Jacko's act, always has been.

So where has this grand plan got him in life? Maybe try a different act?

His dislike of Sheahan is genuine though, have no doubt about that.

It's interesting how age and time have mellowed Sheahan into this kind of harmless old grandfather, interviewing legends etc. In his day he was a king muckraker and (Jacko was absolutely right about this) a VFL/AFL lackey who did what he was told and used his influence to further their interests. He was every bit as despised as Caro and Barrett widely are now.

A good example is Sheahans role in getting rid of Fitzroy, which interestingly Jacko touched on very briefly.

So have you. Please elaborate (and/or on Sheahan's title as "king muckraker").

Sheahan's been around the game and the league for - what - over 40 years? Who's better credentialed to do this show? Jon Ralph? Mark Robinson?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

So where has this grand plan got him in life? Maybe try a different act?




So have you. Please elaborate (and/or on Sheahan's title as "king muckraker").

Sheahan's been around the game and the league for - what - over 40 years? Who's better credentialed to do this show? Jon Ralph? Mark Robinson?

Of course he's credentialed to do it. Depending on the guest I sometimes watch it and enjoy it.

I'm just saying, modern day Mike Sheahan wasn't always the friendly old grandfather he now is, walking down memory lane with old friends or producing top 50 lists.

He's been that mellowed way for a while now and a lot of people see him like that, and I think a lot of people shocked by last night were partially that way because aggressive Jacko was going hard at lovely old Mike.

Amongst all Jacko's rambling he makes a few basic good points, and it was the same re Sheahan. In his day he was a razor sharp journo who for quite a time was also the VFL/AFLs media gun, using his profile and influence to target those as instructed.

He's moved on and so have the AFL, to Caro predominantly.