Confirmed Jaeger O'Meara [traded to Hawthorn for pick 10 and GWS's 2017 2nd rd pick]

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He does but they aren't made available, only the Hawks will know, other teams have to give their cap details to the AFL who will decide whether they have room, if they do they re given the contract terms, if not they are simply told no they cant.

The tricky bit is the player can nominate exact amount in the ASA and cap and teams will need to have enough space in both to meet this, just having enough money overall gets you a no, like Brisbane and GWS did with Tippett.
Doesn't that only apply to the pre-season draft?
The rules are different for the national draft aren't they?
 

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interesting to see Cochrane being pilloried for doing nothing more than standing up for a struggling and stuttering new franchise

if it was Kevin Sheedy, we'd all be saying 'good work Sheeds'...Cohrane is obviously not in Sheeds' class when it comes to verbal dexterity but you can't doubt his passion or his pluck

as to why no other club Chairmen behave this way? well, desperate times call for desperate measures and things have rarely been more desperate than the current state of AFL in Queensland #deadcanary
Because like Cochran said "it's a buyers and sellers market" and your not always the seller sometimes your the buyer (what goes around comes around) Other chairmen realise this!
 

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Uhhhh can you explain 2 things to me please.

1. What do you believe the ASA is?
2. Where has it ever been said a player can nominate whether their paid in the salary cap or ASA?
1. The ASA is the additional services agreement and its money paid to players over and above the salary cap for guess what ? additional services e.g. sponsors meetings and the like. Its limited to i believe $1,022,000 per club for 2016.

2. "Under the rules, clubs have to provide the AFL with estimates of what their salary cap will be for the next season. The AFL then tells the clubs if they have room to participate in the pre-season draft (PSD). In this case, the AFL has informed the Lions and Giants that they would not be able fit Tippett into their total player payments (TPP).

Thus, Brisbane and GWS were not permitted to see the four-year arrangement that Tippett has negotiated with the Swans and nominated as his terms.

The Lions are understood to have had as much as $500,000-$600,000 remaining in the TPP - what is otherwise known as the salary cap - and a further amount of $250-$350,000 in the Additional Services Agreements, the capped payments made to players for promoting sponsors and the club.

But while Brisbane conceivably could have come close to matching Tippett's fee for 2013, perhaps $800,000-900,000 - by combining the two forms of capped payments - Tippett is believed to have set out terms that put all, or nearly all, of his contract in the salary cap
. This appears to be a clever tactic of his management and the Swans to ensure he gets to his club of choice."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tippett-gets-his-sydney-wish-20121210-2b5q6.html
 
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Yep, but it could be 550k in ASA and 200k in the cap or 0 in the ASA and 750k in the cap or any combination in between.

Only the Hawks will know that part.

So a team will need to clear $750k from its cap and all of its ASA component to be sure of meeting that contract. Then course if its 800k a year they will be told they cant afford it. Look up how Tippett got to the Swans wit the last pick in the psd.
Incorrect.
ASA payments can't be used to match payments included in the cap, but there is no rule preventing the reverse.
 

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I'll be sure to scuttle back to this thread tomorrow to see the reactions when JOM reaches Hawthorn anyway! :)

Vickery, Mitchell and O'Meara this year, Martin or Fyfe the next...

Feels great barracking for a club where the future is always bright and everyone else hates you for it. :D

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I'll be sure to scuttle back to this thread tomorrow to see the reactions when JOM reaches Hawthorn anyway! :)

Vickery, Mitchell and O'Meara this year, Martin or Fyfe the next...

Feels great barracking for a club where the future is always bright and everyone else hates you for it. :D

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How do you trade for Martin or Fyfe with almost nothing left next year?
 

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Mediators coming in tomorrow. Question is not whether it will get done, but what else is Hawthorn giving up?
Has to be a player to either GC or a third party.
I think we should demand Jaegers missus gives us his balls from her purse
 

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I'll be sure to scuttle back to this thread tomorrow to see the reactions when JOM reaches Hawthorn anyway! :)

Vickery, Mitchell and O'Meara this year, Martin or Fyfe the next...

Feels great barracking for a club where the future is always bright and everyone else hates you for it. :D

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Member since 2007, the beginning of your period of success... How convenient
 

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We will get a good look at how shrewd Cochrane is tomorrow. If pick 8 gets traded to Essendon/North/Richmond/St Kilda (or any other Victorian team), we can expect things to heat up drastically, as the draft threat loses much of its venom. That club has a month to work on Jaeger to get him on side.
Grizzly just made more sense in one paragraph than 400 pages of hawthorn fans combined.
 

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you blokes maybe. Or north. Or saints.

you still want to split pick 1?

How's 4 and 8 sound?
GC will be interested for Bowes purposes.

The saints have been saying since friday we want back into the 1st round this year, maybe we find something GC want for pick 8?

North have gone full rebuild and offloading as many old blokes as they can.
They wouldn't even have to offload a good old bloke to move from 11 to 8.
GC want old blokes.
 

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I'll be sure to scuttle back to this thread tomorrow to see the reactions when JOM reaches Hawthorn anyway! :)

Vickery, Mitchell and O'Meara this year, Martin or Fyfe the next...

Feels great barracking for a club where the future is always bright and everyone else hates you for it. :D

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By everyone else you are including Mitchell and Lewis right?

Remember those guys?

Family club indeed. Looks like in the marriage breakup there are some uncles stepping up to take custody of the kids.
 

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By everyone else you are including Mitchell and Lewis right?

Remember those guys?

Family club indeed. Looks like in the marriage breakup there are some uncles stepping up to take custody of the kids.
Times change. No room for sentimentality in football. Great servants to the club but they didn't have more than a good year to go.

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1. The ASA is the additional services agreement and its money paid to players over and above the salary cap for guess what ? additional services e.g. sponsors meetings and the like. Its limited to i believe $1,022,000 per club for 2016.

2. "Under the rules, clubs have to provide the AFL with estimates of what their salary cap will be for the next season. The AFL then tells the clubs if they have room to participate in the pre-season draft (PSD). In this case, the AFL has informed the Lions and Giants that they would not be able fit Tippett into their total player payments (TPP).

Thus, Brisbane and GWS were not permitted to see the four-year arrangement that Tippett has negotiated with the Swans and nominated as his terms.

The Lions are understood to have had as much as $500,000-$600,000 remaining in the TPP - what is otherwise known as the salary cap - and a further amount of $250-$350,000 in the Additional Services Agreements, the capped payments made to players for promoting sponsors and the club.

But while Brisbane conceivably could have come close to matching Tippett's fee for 2013, perhaps $800,000-900,000 - by combining the two forms of capped payments - Tippett is believed to have set out terms that put all, or nearly all, of his contract in the salary cap
. This appears to be a clever tactic of his management and the Swans to ensure he gets to his club of choice."

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tippett-gets-his-sydney-wish-20121210-2b5q6.html
Interesting. Any reason you think every single trade with an uncontracted player isn't done this way? Would have saved Richmond pick 6 for example.
 

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Bit hard to do that from the stands when his knee gives up yet again. ;)
If Essendon got their mitts on him would certainly be the case. Fortunately we have the best medical team in the business. We'll have him fit and firing until his son is ready to line up for us.

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