Jaeger O'Meara whats he worth?

[captainMyCaptain]

he will be 26 at the start of next season. Has probably exceeded peoples expectations and come back and played some seriously good footy coming off no pre season, i think he's averaging around 22 touches this season. Would hate to see him go as he is a real leader at the club and next season with a preseason under his belt he could get back to his pre-injured best, remember he was selected in the Victorian side a few years back. But i think a trade may just work out well for both clubs, you get a hard working, leader that really exemplifies everything about the western suburbs of sydney and we get a polished youngster that could go in tandem with cotchin, conca and martin to create one of the most promising midfields in the competition. Doubt the club will be willing to let him go, but youve got to give something good to get something good.

Fair enough, but I was just thinking given the reported interest that GWS had in getting Deledio for 2013 would it make sense to put him up to get the first pick in the mini draft rather then take the chance of losing him and hoping the compensation pick turned out ok.

I could actually see the deal being GWS gets Deledio, and you get the first pick in the mini draft plus as a sweetener we also give you our pick 27 which is the first pick of the 2nd round.

Here is the old article on GWS showing interest in Deledio.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...-star-midfielder/story-e6frf9jf-1226051760035

 

[Buddy Guy]

Hi guys,

Sorry for intruding on your board.

Really interesting times isnt it?
I am loving the speculation and inuendo surrounding the uncontracted players and the discussion about the mini draft is adding a completely new dimension to this season, Jaeger O'Meara is sending clubs and fans alike into a frenzy.

I have no idea if the Hawks are looking to be a major player in attempting to snare one of the picks in the mini draft, I think we seriously dropped the ball last year by not dealing with GC on Tendai Mzungu as he was definitely on our radar, and hope that this year that they wont let the same opportunities slide.

So my question is, who would be a realisitic option from Hawthorn that would get us into this mini draft?
Would a player like Jordan Lewis or Brad Sewell be enough or would need to package one of them with a pick?
Both would offer a lot to your young kids in the way of leadership and obviously have the big strong bodies to offer that "protection" to your youngsters as they are developing.

Your crop of youngsters are going to be incredible and I wish you every success next year.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Hi guys,

Sorry for intruding on your board.

Really interesting times isnt it?
I am loving the speculation and inuendo surrounding the uncontracted players and the discussion about the mini draft is adding a completely new dimension to this season, Jaeger O'Meara is sending clubs and fans alike into a frenzy.

I have no idea if the Hawks are looking to be a major player in attempting to snare one of the picks in the mini draft, I think we seriously dropped the ball last year by not dealing with GC on Tendai Mzungu as he was definitely on our radar, and hope that this year that they wont let the same opportunities slide.

So my question is, who would be a realisitic option from Hawthorn that would get us into this mini draft?
Would a player like Jordan Lewis or Brad Sewell be enough or would need to package one of them with a pick?
Both would offer a lot to your young kids in the way of leadership and obviously have the big strong bodies to offer that "protection" to your youngsters as they are developing.

Your crop of youngsters are going to be incredible and I wish you every success next year.

Thanks for the sentiment, my way of thinking is that one of those players plus a compensation pick would be around the mark, but if there is no compensation pick on the table then it will take 2 players to get the job done.

 

[Spitz]

If the club was ballsy enough.


I'd be inclined to offer McIntosh and a pick.

Which should certainly be enough, McIntosh's open trade value is probably Pick 8-15 imo.

The ruck is also one of the hardest positions to cover properly, and you would then have a genuinely high quality #1 ruckman right from the get go.


Either way, the weight of the world could be on this kid, if a club has to part with a pretty decent player for him.

 

[Spitz]

How would GWS consider a first round compensation pick?

Pick would be the one taken after your pick for your finishing position on the ladder.

If you were to finish last in 2012, in theory this could end up being pick #2 in that draft.

No it doesn't.


The band 3 picks are taken at the end of the first round, i.e as for next year, pick 19 and higher.


The only pick in existance like the one you are describing is one of the Ablett picks, which has since been traded to the GC.\

 

[divvydan]

No it doesn't.


The band 3 picks are taken at the end of the first round, i.e as for next year, pick 19 and higher.


The only pick in existance like the one you are describing is one of the Ablett picks, which has since been traded to the GC.\

I was referring to a potential Band 2 pick if we lost Ward this year, rather than the Band 3 pick from last year which we already traded to Brisbane for Sherman.

 

[dlanod]

I'd jump at Lewis, Sewell or especially MacIntosh. However it really depends on what is on offer by other clubs. I think an offer of any of those would get a foot in the door, but if it gets into a bidding war (and it might, it's not often that pick 1 is up for sale) who knows where it could end up.

 

[Hank93]

Gold Coast's win may have cost them Jaeger O'Meara. That win puts them in 16th and draft pick 6. Port will now get pick 4 if they finish bottom.

I can't understand how someone who would go top 2 in a super draft is worth pick 4 in a thin draft. I would want a top 5 pick and another player.

I don't think these players have to be traded because the players have to agree to be involved in this mini draft in 2011. If one of these players does not agree to join a club in 2011, then he will not be involved in the mini draft. You would be silly not to get involved in the Mini Draft. You get a full years worth of training at a AFL club and get to play senior footy in a state league.

 

[Daz]

If Gubby Allen truly believes GWS can win a flag in 4-5 years that McIntosh should be perfect for them.

Seriously, didn't Sheedy say he wanted an established ruckman? Hamish would probably give GWS 5 really good years of service.

If GWS are after players, not picks, then I can't imagine many better players than HMac being offered (still quite doubtful that he will be available, mind you). It's not often that a guy who is in your top 5 or 6 players on ability isn't required (again, that's debatable).

Difficult to think of a suitable deal, though. Hamish on his own wouldn't be enough but Hamish + 1st Rounder (about #14) is too much.

 

[Ramper]

As a Richmond supporter we all have to acknowledge no one is going to get any of these picks without coughing up some deal to GWS that is a win for them and hopefully turns out to be a win for the team dealing with them too. Foley and Morton is I reckon fair enough for 1 of these picks. Foley is still a great player but he aint going to be around when we are successful, we atleast 5 years away and Foley is like 25yo. Morton is still 23-24yo and can kick goals. IMHO Richmond should chase both of GWS picks this season and for that to happen we should also put up say Chris Newman with say David Astbury or a 1st round pick this season. Newman is a readymade captain but he is 28yo so you need to compliment him with a younger player. Anyway whatever happens whoever gets the players the GWS will be the big winners, they will get ready mades, the clubs getting the kids will be hoping like hell they come through.

 

[Daz]

As a Richmond supporter we all have to acknowledge no one is going to get any of these picks without coughing up some deal to GWS that is a win for them and hopefully turns out to be a win for the team dealing with them too. Foley and Morton is I reckon fair enough for 1 of these picks. Foley is still a great player but he aint going to be around when we are successful, we atleast 5 years away and Foley is like 25yo. Morton is still 23-24yo and can kick goals. IMHO Richmond should chase both of GWS picks this season and for that to happen we should also put up say Chris Newman with say David Astbury or a 1st round pick this season. Newman is a readymade captain but he is 28yo so you need to compliment him with a younger player. Anyway whatever happens whoever gets the players the GWS will be the big winners, they will get ready mades, the clubs getting the kids will be hoping like hell they come through.

Foley WAS a very good player. He's been better this year but I think he's lost the explosive speed he used to have.

Morton showed good signs in the midfield late last year. What happened this year?

You want to trade your captain?

 

[Ramper]

Yes I would offer up Newman because he like Foley wont see success with us. GWS will need some leadership and Newman is a ready made captain. We need some too mind you but like GCS they will fly past us when they get all the early picks. Richmond needs to recruit younger players again. We can make Cotchin captain and get by for a while. People have to understand you cant offer rubbish to GWS for these picks. You have to cough up players that will hurt your list when they go but you have to hope that the players you bring in can develop and contribute over time. Sadly for us who follow Richmond we are a fair while away and we have to go down the youth road again.

 

[Daz]

Yes I would offer up Newman because he like Foley wont see success with us. GWS will need some leadership and Newman is a ready made captain. We need some too mind you but like GCS they will fly past us when they get all the early picks. Richmond needs to recruit younger players again. We can make Cotchin captain and get by for a while. People have to understand you cant offer rubbish to GWS for these picks. You have to cough up players that will hurt your list when they go but you have to hope that the players you bring in can develop and contribute over time. Sadly for us who follow Richmond we are a fair while away and we have to go down the youth road again.

I'm sure they'll be stoked with your offer of Mitch Morton, then.

 

[Ramper]

It was Foley and Morton not Morton alone. Anyway its a much better offer than McIntosh with his achilles or whatever other problems his got. Foley is a quality footballer and Foley with Morton combined is a fair offer.

 

[Daz]

It was Foley and Morton not Morton alone. Anyway its a much better offer than McIntosh with his achilles or whatever other problems his got. Foley is a quality footballer and Foley with Morton combined is a fair offer.

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Difficult to think of a suitable deal, though. Hamish on his own wouldn't be enough but Hamish + 1st Rounder (about #14) is too much.

Foley is now only a decent player. Morton is a below average player, although showed something last year, I'll ask again, why didn't he play midfield this year?

I highly doubt Foley and Morton would be enough.

 

[Sylvia Saint]

Reports are that Melbourne could offer compensation picks for the draft rights to O'Meara

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...osing-tom-scully/story-e6frf9jf-1226096389389

From what I can gather, if we offloaded one of these picks to GWS and they finished last in 2012, it would mean the compensation pick would equate to pick 2. Giants would have picks 1 and 2 for the super draft. Could be wrong.

Surely with a sweetener that would put us in the box seat.

Of course it all falls into a heap if Scully stays, (And I hope he does!!)

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

We would have to offer both compensation picks for O'Meara IMO if it plays out that way.

Which would equate to a probably extra top 5 pick for GWS as well as pick 9.

We may even have to chuck in an experienced KP player, such as Warnock.

And seeinig that cmC assures me that Scully is gone... all hope is lost.

 

[Gee Dubya]

But i think a trade may just work out well for both clubs, you get a hard working, leader that really exemplifies everything about the western suburbs of sydney

What?

Foley and Morton is I reckon fair enough for 1 of these picks. IMHO Richmond should chase both of GWS picks this season and for that to happen we should also put up say Chris Newman with say David Astbury or a 1st round pick this season.

So you want to trade your Captain and your Vice Captain and your most promising CHB? Dude you've got zombie frenzy.

 

[Upgrayedd]

If there's any chance of him coming to us, hopefully the club makes it happen.

Imagine a 2015 midfield of Scully, Trengove, Viney, McKenzie, Gysberts and O'Meara. Chuck in Morton, Sylvia, Moloney, etc. Far out, we'd be invincible

Unfortunatly one of Viney/McKenzie/Gysberts/Molony/Frawley would end up at GWS for O'Meara

 

[ThePuppetMaster]

Not the case at all.

 

[E Shed]

John Griifen might be a good starting point for a conversation.

 

[YearOfTheCotch10]

exemplifies everything about the western suburbs of sydney

What?

In that he is an honest, hardworking, blue collar midfielder. Picked up as a rookie he has worked super hard to get the best out of himself. The western suburbs of Sydney are similar to this in that they arent the most wealthy, but are just honest, hard working people in the main.

 

[Arcassius]

John Griifen might be a good starting point for a conversation.

or palmer + MJ + palmer compo pick

 

[Gee Dubya]

In that he is an honest, hardworking, blue collar midfielder. Picked up as a rookie he has worked super hard to get the best out of himself. The western suburbs of Sydney are similar to this in that they arent the most wealthy, but are just honest, hard working people in the main.

well that should see his trade value skyrocket then...

got anyone on your list that can fit 22" rims on a Toyota Hilux?

 

[ilikepotatoes]

or palmer + MJ + palmer compo pick

+ Duffield