Jaeger O'Meara

[ClokesShankedIt]

It's always a 'new' injury ?????

Reminds me of the shit collingwood used to dribble about ben reid

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Nothing too outrageous. It was a suprise he was tracking so well after preseason, then he got hurt and its created a new setback. Luckily its a marathon not a sprint with Jaeger and we dont him this year anyway

That said, the amount salivating by the media and the general football public about this kid is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I get that people don't like Hawthorn but the fairly widespread, pretty poorly hidden delight that a 23 yo kid cant get on the field... Its pretty poor form.

Agreed. It's terrible form, and it's embarrassing to see people do it.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Will be interesting to see how history records this compared with our Yarran boo-boo.

 

[Pessimistic]

Why do you think its poor form? Hawthorn sold the proverbial farm to get him, high risk strategy. I think the interest is deserved based on that alone. Hawthorn has been up the top of the table for a while, of course other supporters want to see them balls this up. Fundamentally its not about Jager, its about Hawthorn putting all their eggs in the Jager basket(or bomb, if you would prefer).

It is basically nya nya though really

Interest not seen since the hodge-ball-judd days

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Massive balls up from Hawthorn, was probably worth the risk seeing they were coming off 3 flags though.

 

[LowHanginFruit]

Nothing will ever beat the Stephen O'Reilly trade for worst of all time

How about Ridley, Kickett & Delaney for picks that garnered Lucas & Lloyd??

 

[Heaps of fun]

Massive balls up from Hawthorn, was probably worth the risk seeing they were coming off 3 flags though.

You'd have thought after they got four flags based off a team built around first round draft picks (Hodge #1, Roughead #2, Franklin #5, Lewis #7, Rioli #12, Birchall #14) that it might actually be time to return to that particular well rather than going all in on a player with one remaining knee cap.

 

[RUNVS]

I feel bad for O'Meara but to be honest I feel worse for Morabito as he could have been an A grade player but unlike O'meara he never got to even show what he could do and he never got the big contract O'Meara got as well, a contract that will at least make O'Meara's life easier if this injury is as bad as we fear.

 

[footyfan1978]

Will be interesting to see how history records this compared with our Yarran boo-boo.

That was minor compared to this. You only lost one draft pick in essence. Hawks given up a lot more for what this bust fallout could be over time.

 

[Kummerspeck]

That said, the amount salivating by the media and the general football public about this kid is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I get that people don't like Hawthorn but the fairly widespread, pretty poorly hidden delight that a 23 yo kid cant get on the field... Its pretty poor form.

At least they dedicate a sentence to "I feel awful for O'Maera" before spending the next three paragraphs to laughing at the Hawks. You can feel the emotion.

 

[Scotland]

Jaeger now has a bone stress injury to the patella. This could be caused by multiple things, it could be due to poor tracking of the patella in its groove, it could be from a direct knock or it could be overload where either the quad or patellar tendon attach to the bone. AR stressed that the tendon was in fact fine.....take from that what you will, but if you take it on face value then it is not a direct overload of the tendon itself which is great news. However if that is the case it is most likely due to poor mechanics of the patella and how it functions in the groove of the femur. This dysfunction occurs due to imbalances in the muscles that attach to the patella and creates friction between the undersurface of the patella and the groove of the femur. Many factors such as tightness and/or weakness and/or poor motor control of muscles in the calf, thigh and hip can all contribute to this as can back issues (thanks Sven) as can flat feet, training overload, poor footwear etc

He's not Daniel Menzel doing the same knee 3 times (and the other for good measure), but I find it hard to believe the 'new' injury thing. The tendon is fine from all reports, but surely it isn't coincidence that a bloke with a history of patella injuries has a different patella injury. It's not like he rolled an ankle or broke his arm, he's injured something directly connected to what he's previously injured. I'm not biomechanist by any means but a weakness in a joint/ligament/tendon can cause problems for the surrounding area as I'm sure you are aware.

What's a likely way forward?

 

[yoodooright]

So you would rather JOM never play another game of AFL, just so you can have one over a few Hawks supporters?

No. Read what I wote, don't try to read my mind.

 

[GuzzLG]

What's with all the Hawthorn tears?

The story is about their disastrous trade that has gutted the club's list.

The fact that one player might never reach his potential pales into insignificance compared to a failing of an entire club as a result of hubris. $3.5m is some comfort to him I'd imagine.

 

[Fetnarr]

He's not Daniel Menzel doing the same knee 3 times (and the other for good measure), but I find it hard to believe the 'new' injury thing. The tendon is fine from all reports, but surely it isn't coincidence that a bloke with a history of patella injuries has a different patella injury. It's not like he rolled an ankle or broke his arm, he's injured something directly connected to what he's previously injured. I'm not biomechanist by any means but a weakness in a joint/ligament/tendon can cause problems for the surrounding area as I'm sure you are aware.

What's a likely way forward?

The stress to the patella would be caused by the imbalances created from prior injuries/surgeries. Due to pain you get muscle wasting, tightening and different firing patterns of nerves. This leads to altered mechanics which puts the patella under stress. So while the injury may be different, it's not unrelated if that makes sense.
Rehab now is about identifying any of these risk factors and putting a program in place to correct them. It will take time but it is possible. What I can't comment on that may influence his ability to get back is whether there is any degenerative problems in his cartilage. This can't be fixed and he'd have to manage that a bit like Adam Cooney had to with his.

 

[mxett]

Better than bone stress in your paella.

That would completely ruin the flavour.

i love a good bone joke. They're so humerus

 

[JayJ20]

I honestly feel sorry for JOM. Hawthorn should've taken more precautions with him IMO. It's obvious that JOM's body may not hold up at AFL level so soon after. I think JOM himself might have put pressure on himself to play.

He needs the time off to get not only his body right, but also his confidence. Seriously talented at his best, but I'm not sure that he'll get back to that level. I hope he does though.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

This.

Hawks took a risk, it's bombed. They're in damage control.

When he first hurt it back in round 4 he was popping up in all sorts of places to assure "IT'S A NEW INJURY". They even put him on at halftime of another game. It was exactly like one of Clarkson's mea culpas, stage managed to a tee.

Anyway it's dropped now and the morning sports pages will will be cover to cover HOF and a new legend. Funny that.

From a position of such strength I'd have thought they'd be bolder. "We took a risk and it backfired. We hardly have much to apologise for after the past 5 years." Ah well.

 

[TallyHawk]

Why do you think its poor form? Hawthorn sold the proverbial farm to get him, high risk strategy. I think the interest is deserved based on that alone. Hawthorn has been up the top of the table for a while, of course other supporters want to see them balls this up. Fundamentally its not about Jager, its about Hawthorn putting all their eggs in the Jager basket(or bomb, if you would prefer).

Except Tom Mitchell is also in that basket, a point that is deliberately left out by grubby journalists.


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[Lance Uppercut]

He's not Daniel Menzel doing the same knee 3 times (and the other for good measure), but I find it hard to believe the 'new' injury thing. The tendon is fine from all reports, but surely it isn't coincidence that a bloke with a history of patella injuries has a different patella injury. It's not like he rolled an ankle or broke his arm, he's injured something directly connected to what he's previously injured. I'm not biomechanist by any means but a weakness in a joint/ligament/tendon can cause problems for the surrounding area as I'm sure you are aware.

What's a likely way forward?

Jeager O'Meara gets a "new" injury, in his same knee, after missing a couple of months already, and somehow it's "not connected". Yeah it's probably just a coincidence amirite? This, even though just last week admitting that despite calling it "bone bruising" last time he was unable to load it up to 100% without breaking down, months after the actual event.

Poor kid. Let's hope this is just the inevitable Hawthorn spin that I said was coming not 2 days ago to continue softening up the supporter base. I mean, shock horror that this comes out in the week that the Hawthorn spin machine had strongly insinuated on many fronts that he would be returning. Or maybe it's another coincidence. If it's just Hawthorne spin surely that's better than him actually suffering continual allegedly brand new and unrelated injuries in the same damn knee that's kept him out for 2 years already.

 

[yoodooright]

Why do I think that salivating over a 23 yo being unable to play is poor form?? You want me to spell it out?

Interest in his case medically isn't poor form. Schadenfreude over our shit season isn't poor form. Discussing the mega trade isn't poor form.

I've just always found glee and crocodile tears over a kid struggling to get a good run together, poor form.

I certainly don't want to appear to be defending injury trolls - because I am not. I just don't see the issue with people hoping the trade is a bust, due to Jager not being able to perform because of his injuries. Again, it is not about Jager - it is about Hawthorn. Tall poppy syndrome.

I suppose the difference is actively rooting against his recovery, &/or berating Hawthorn supporters who are optimistic about his prospects. Perhaps I am being to semantic about it though.

It is basically nya nya though really

Yeah, I think to a certain extent that is exactly what it is. But isn't that what opposition supporters do - about everything? Footy is parochial, and this just seems par for course.

Personally - best wishes to Jager, and I hope he has a successful career.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

Hawks took a risk, it's bombed. They're in damage control.

When he first hurt it back in round 4 he was popping up in all sorts of places to assure "IT'S A NEW INJURY". They even put him on at halftime of another game. It was exactly like one of Clarkson's mea culpas, stage managed to a tee.

Anyway it's dropped now and the morning sports pages will will be cover to cover HOF and a new legend. Funny that.

From a position of such strength I'd have thought they'd be bolder. "We took a risk and it backfired. We hardly have much to apologise for after the past 5 years." Ah well.

yep, a brand new injury precisely in time to stop him from coming back when the club had messaged that he would, after the bye. Horrible luck, that

 

[JayJ20]

Except Tom Mitchell is also in that basket, a point that is deliberately left out by grubby journalists.


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No everyone could see that you got Mitchell cheap. I don't think anyone criticised Hawthorn for that trade

 

[TheSierBear]

JAEGER O’Meara is battling a new knee issue that will keep him out until “later in the season”.

The prized recruit has a long history of knee problems — the latest of which has sidelined him since Round 6 — but Hawthorn said a recent new issue of bone stress has emerged.

“We’ve identified he’s got his bone stress in his patella,” club fitness boss Andrew Russell said on Tuesday.

“This is a new issue — different to what we’ve had to deal with before with him, which is good.

“Dealing with something different, we’re really happy about.

“Obviously we want him to be 100 per cent but right now he’s not.”

Russell said O’Meara had returned to “90 to 95 per cent” of knee function before he was struck down with the latest issue.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...k/news-story/ef93e4a96a1cc5894791dceec1bd3a8a

Nor sure if serious. Are the comments satirical?

 

[TallyHawk]

No everyone could see that you got Mitchell cheap. I don't think anyone criticised Hawthorn for that trade

Seven just ran a graphic containing elements of the Tom Mitchell trade and departure of Sam and Jordan as selling the farm, its shit form.


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[Gavin Excell]

The stress to the patella would be caused by the imbalances created from prior injuries/surgeries. Due to pain you get muscle wasting, tightening and different firing patterns of nerves. This leads to altered mechanics which puts the patella under stress. So while the injury may be different, it's not unrelated if that makes sense.
Rehab now is about identifying any of these risk factors and putting a program in place to correct them. It will take time but it is possible. What I can't comment on that may influence his ability to get back is whether there is any degenerative problems in his cartilage. This can't be fixed and he'd have to manage that a bit like Adam Cooney had to with his.

Would have playing so early this year ahead of schedule been a factor