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Lance Uppercut said:
oh most definitely. Hawkins, Scarlett, Ablett; and the players like Selwood they could in turn get as you so rightly point out. Funny that, the two most dominant teams of the past decade, and you can point to specific, obvious and potent accidents of history
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Scarlett was always going to be a late pick regardless of F/S.

Ablett was seen as mid 2nd round guy, and even then only for his name.

Hawkins was a clear early pick.

Waiting for a blow up about us getting a steal with Marc Woolnough, Mark Blake, David Clarke, Adam Donohue, Jed Bews, Simon Fletcher...

Was it fair Essendon got Dustin Fletcher to win flags?
 
It's tricky as a Hawthorn supporter and someone who is still comfortable with how Jaeger is going atm, because there is no reasonable comeback as things stand.

The only way those sinking the boots in will be silenced is when he plays again. Probably not even then. He'll have to stay injury free and play to a high standard to even begin to silence the current critics.

After all he did play 6 games in a row and improved with each outing at the start of the year and that wasn't enough to keep the wolves at bay.

Any future small injury/niggle will potentially set people off again.

IMO I still think the Hawks have things under control, Jaegers career isnt over before its been reignited and he will still have a fruitful career at the Hawks.

Unfortunately those sinking the boots in will probably have ample opportunity to for along time yet.

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Fetnarr , are you saying that Gary Ablett was suffering from adhesive capsulutis, or just shoulder stiffness post surgery? Because if it is adhesive capsulitis (true frozen shoulder) it's very doubtful he would have recovered yet. Adhesive capsulitis of the glenhumeral joint is self limiting for minimum 12 months.
 

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sven_inc said:
It's tricky as a Hawthorn supporter and someone who is still comfortable with how Jaeger is going atm, because there is no reasonable comeback as things stand.

The only way those sinking the boots in will be silenced is when he plays again. Probably not even then. He'll have to stay injury free and play to a high standard to even begin to silence the current critics.

After all he did play 6 games in a row and improved with each outing at the start of the year and that wasn't enough to keep the wolves at bay.

Any future small injury/niggle will potentially set people off again.

IMO I still think the Hawks have things under control, Jaegers career isnt over before its been reignited and he will still have a fruitful career at the Hawks.

Unfortunately those sinking the boots in will probably have ample opportunity to for along time yet.

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That is the whole point. Absolutely.

He has to come back and play very regularly AND play like an A Grade Star to be worth anywhere near what was paid for him.

The odds on that are lengthening.

"Those sinking the boots in" to Hawthorn, not Jaegar, are on very solid ground.
 
TerryWallet said:
That is the whole point. Absolutely.

He has to come back and play very regularly AND play like an A Grade Star to be worth anywhere near what was paid for him.

The odds on that are lengthening.

"Those sinking the boots in" to Hawthorn, not Jaegar, are on very solid ground.
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Yep. If Jaegar plays a lot of footy but it is well short of elite status many will get frustrated much like those of us that follow Carlton look at the previous recruiting idiots at Carlton that signed up an injured Dale Thomas on elite player money but then let Betts go for nothing.
It is just sad for players like O'Meara and Thomas that would love to get to the previous level they could play but their bodies not allow that to happen.

Thankfully for Thomas sake most have lowered expectations now and just expect him to contribute , play team football rather than being one of the elite mids but still was a dumb move at time by people making the list decisions and contract signings. Same heat coming to people on medical profession at Hawks that gave the ok to trade away the farm for O'Meara.
 
sven_inc said:
It's tricky as a Hawthorn supporter and someone who is still comfortable with how Jaeger is going atm, because there is no reasonable comeback as things stand.

The only way those sinking the boots in will be silenced is when he plays again. Probably not even then. He'll have to stay injury free and play to a high standard to even begin to silence the current critics.

After all he did play 6 games in a row and improved with each outing at the start of the year and that wasn't enough to keep the wolves at bay.

Any future small injury/niggle will potentially set people off again.

IMO I still think the Hawks have things under control, Jaegers career isnt over before its been reignited and he will still have a fruitful career at the Hawks.

Unfortunately those sinking the boots in will probably have ample opportunity to for along time yet.

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If by 6 games in a row you actually mean 3 then yes, I guess he did.

Did he improve with each game? Sorry but no. First 2 games he improved but game 3 and 4 he definitely did not improve, in fact he clearly went backwards.
 
Marc_Remillard said:
If by 6 games in a row you actually mean 3 then yes, I guess he did.

Did he improve with each game? Sorry but no. First 2 games he improved but game 3 and 4 he definitely did not improve, in fact he clearly went backwards.
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He was quite good against the crows in round 2 I think it was? Suffered the knock to the knee the next week against the Suns and was clearly hampered by it against the saints after having a week off
 
blue harvest said:
Our priority picks were 2004 and 2005.
The new teams entering the comp and priority pick ending were 2011/12.

It wasn't 'just before'.
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Well it was really, those players were coming good around then and how many more had them in between?
In footy terms 5/6 years is the typical development time for most ideas and players.
 
sven_inc said:
It's tricky as a Hawthorn supporter and someone who is still comfortable with how Jaeger is going atm, because there is no reasonable comeback as things stand.

The only way those sinking the boots in will be silenced is when he plays again. Probably not even then. He'll have to stay injury free and play to a high standard to even begin to silence the current critics.

After all he did play 6 games in a row and improved with each outing at the start of the year and that wasn't enough to keep the wolves at bay.

Any future small injury/niggle will potentially set people off again.

IMO I still think the Hawks have things under control, Jaegers career isnt over before its been reignited and he will still have a fruitful career at the Hawks.

Unfortunately those sinking the boots in will probably have ample opportunity to for along time yet.

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PS: MB trolls - this guy knows his shit on all things Patella.
 

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O'Rourke Awakens!! said:
so if you're salivating about Jaegar's injury you're not celebrating his bad news - you're just celebrating Hawthorn's bad fortune.

sure....
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lol

Hawthorn's, and Jaegar's, situation has zero to do with salivating.

It is just reality.

Which will be commented on here on a footy forum.

Strange, i know...but there you go.
 
O'Rourke Awakens!! said:
PS: MB trolls - this guy knows his shit on all things Patella.
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Ian McDonald said:
Sorry

Footy is Jaegers life . Do you think this is a walk in the park for him. Do you think he may be gutteref . Well he bloody is.
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Of course he'd be gutted.

But if he never plays again, he's far better off than the majority of society. Will have a shitload of cash to do something with for the rest of his life.
 

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Marc_Remillard said:
If by 6 games in a row you actually mean 3 then yes, I guess he did.

Did he improve with each game? Sorry but no. First 2 games he improved but game 3 and 4 he definitely did not improve, in fact he clearly went backwards.
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I'm talking preseason + first 3 rounds. He also played well in a few intra clubs as well.

He did improve with each game particularly as him game time evolved.

He was lame as it turns out for the GC game but that's beside the point.

The point is is that he was apparently 100% there for most of the preseason until the GC knock sent him flying off course.

Clearly not ideal obviously but from what's coming out of the club the tendon is now ok. If it wasn't he wouldn't have gone so well comparatively at the start of the year. If your tendon sucks and ur slated to debut for your new club in R4/5 there's no way you come back 2 months earlier for no reason.

His actual knee/knee cap may not be perfect atm or ever in the future but a knee doesn't have to be to function really well. But it still has to function really well at the end of the day - which is what all this seems to be about currently.

If his current issues are just bony stress related then great, that goes away and hopefully he'll be back on track literally and figuratively in no time.

He certainly has some work still to do by the sounds of it but he got there at the start of the year and surely he can do it again. There's no rush this year - as it turns out we are a shadow of our best years atm.

The Burgoyne comparisons others make are a little messy IMO as they are completely different issues and circumstances. But it speaks to the idea that the Hawks are willing to work hard to get someone right for the long term benefit of the player and club.

As I said earlier, it's a little frustrating as a supporter in here atm as we have no comeback to anything anyone says or assumes. We have all the same info everyone else has but we all interpret it differently.

Unfortunately this will just go round and round and back and forth for weeks.
 
Mr Lizard said:
My favourite part was when the Essendon supporter equated Jaeger's knee to their club getting caught running a doping program.

lol!
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my favourite part is that you're so bad at comprehension that you think that happened. Don't you find it a bit embarrassing that you're so bad at comprehending words in front of you?
 
O'Rourke Awakens!! said:
so if you're salivating about Jaegar's injury you're not celebrating his bad news - you're just celebrating Hawthorn's bad fortune.

sure....
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this from a supporter of a club who offloaded a bloke with mental health issues then had their supporter base crow about what a win they had on BigFooty
 

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