FireKrakouer
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- Jul 5, 2011
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Just let him off ya dogs.
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Howe did the same thing with De Goey, he’s a great club man
Or maybe he's just a preachy snitch? Pies don't win 1990 if they didn't cover up Millane's indiscretions. Nor would they have won 2010 if they took such a hard line towards the rat pack.
Or maybe he's just a preachy snitch? Pies don't win 1990 if they didn't cover up Millane's indiscretions. Nor would they have won 2010 if they took such a hard line towards the rat pack.
I dont believe for a minute that it was only $36 bucks. It must've been a bigger issue for Howe to kick up a fuss. if not, and it was only those 3 bets, i think internally a lot of staff and players wouldnt be happy with Howe.
He needs to be out there doing what's best for his team; not what's best for his multi. Him going for goal isn't necessarily what's best for the team - therefore: game integrity.I don't see any problems with players betting on themselves to win or kick goals. It's only when you bet on the opposition, which is match fixing. In horse racing, jockeys, trainers and connections are allowed to bet on their own horses.
$36 is a big issue. Didn't you notice the penaltyOr maybe he's just a preachy snitch? Pies don't win 1990 if they didn't cover up Millane's indiscretions. Nor would they have won 2010 if they took such a hard line towards the rat pack.
I dont believe for a minute that it was only $36 bucks. It must've been a bigger issue for Howe to kick up a fuss. if not, and it was only those 3 bets, i think internally a lot of staff and players wouldnt be happy with Howe.
Why, would you let him off if he played for a different club?Just let him off ya dogs.
Makes sense. If there was spot fixing involved I suspect young Jayden would be looking at a new career.So according to Sam McClure Stephenson cost himself his multi in the Saints game by kicking that goal with a torp. Apparently he had the Pies by under 39 and that kick put them 46 points up with a couple of minutes to go.
According to McClure that was one of the instances that lead to the AFL not charging him with match fixing but only their anti gambling rules.
It’s a good question. I wonder if they release all the bets. If not, why? You have to wonder.What were the rest of the legs? Did he also have him kicking 3 goals? Why not tell us the bets and the games they were placed?
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Yep this is really starting to stink now.So according to Sam McClure Stephenson cost himself his multi in the Saints game by kicking that goal with a torp. Apparently he had the Pies by under 39 and that kick put them 46 points up with a couple of minutes to go.
According to McClure that was one of the instances that lead to the AFL not charging him with match fixing but only their anti gambling rules.
What were the rest of the legs? Did he also have him kicking 3 goals? Why not tell us the bets and the games they were placed?
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It’s a good question. I wonder if they release all the bets. If not, why? You have to wonder.
I did a rough multi on my board of what that multi would have equated to had he won betting the amount that he did.
It worked out to be a ~$10k winfall. Thats why the AFL wont release the bet, because saying $36 makes it sound like a small little mistake whereas winning a $10k multi would have most people questioning if he tried to fix a game.
The fact he bet on the outcome and margin of a game he was playing in makes this inexcusable.So according to Sam McClure Stephenson cost himself his multi in the Saints game by kicking that goal with a torp. Apparently he had the Pies by under 39 and that kick put them 46 points up with a couple of minutes to go.
According to McClure that was one of the instances that lead to the AFL not charging him with match fixing but only their anti gambling rules.
The fact he bet on the outcome and margin of a game he was playing in makes this inexcusable.
10 weeks is an absolute joke. Absolute joke.
The AFL should release to the public what the bets were for full disclosure and transparency...
Spot on.Anybody that knows anything about punting, seriously would know that the torpedo goal that Stephenson needed to kick was so that one of his legs of his multi's would salute. The fact that he kicked it in time on, tells how tough and remote his chances are to kick a goal. This happens many times in player markets, where certain players will go goalless.
There was plenty of time remaining for the opposition to score a goal so that the Pies would win by 1-39 a requirement for his multi, "if" Stephenson was trying to match fix a result. That would not be hard to manufacture if he was so inclined. Such as giving away a free kick, a clanger etc etc.
As the probability of any opposition player to kick a goal to bring the margin under 40pts would be much much less compared to a specific player required to kick a goal in the last few minutes.
To dumb this down, Stephneson kicking the goal keeps his multi alive. If he had missed it may have been his last chance to kick a goal and thereby effectively killing his multi. There was always more time for the Saints to kick a goal, especially given that it was a high scoring game.
AFL Media have conveniently avoided asking that question. Boys club.They wont, as I said a $36 wager sounds a lot better than betting on a $10k outcome.
Most of afl media probably have TAB accounts and with the knowledge they have probably do allright betting on AFLAFL Media have conveniently avoided asking that question. Boys club.
Most of afl media probably have TAB accounts and with the knowledge they have probably do allright betting on AFL
Surely it’s time for people to find a hobby