Oppo Camp Jaidyn Stephenson (Traded to Nth Melb. 2020)

[texan]

In some way you could say Treloar was Selfish as did not want to do the Right thing for the Club

I think it shows players have to much power, I follow the club first and foremost. Clubs should be able to trade players, if you’re good enough and valued you don’t get traded. Surplus in one area should be traded to fill a need elsewhere.


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[TradeDraft]

I think it shows players have to much power, I follow the club first and foremost. Clubs should be able to trade players, if you’re good enough and valued you don’t get traded. Surplus in one area should be traded to fill a need elsewhere.


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Be like American Sport when a Player has no say in a Trade Unless they have a No Trade Clause or Clause to say where they can get Traded To

 

[Apex36]

Looking forward to this thread rivalling, and then surpassing the Nathan Freeman

Nathan Freeman

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thread for longevity.

 

[12kilos]

Like most of us i think we got ripped off in the Stephenson trade,. No one knows his celling? he could be anything he could still be the next big thing!
Treloar i understand he had a heavy contract which kept all other clubs luke warm in getting him.
Stephenson still suprises me that the roos seem like the only club that showed interest?
Why? I dont accept that he was a bit of an idiot? ie Noble incident. With so much talent you would think you can turn him ariund like Dane Swan

Dane Swan

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12.0

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and his mate Dustie

 

[Jelly Bean]

Like most of us i think we got ripped off in the Stephenson trade,. No one knows his celling? he could be anything he could still be the next big thing!
Treloar i understand he had a heavy contract which kept all other clubs luke warm in getting him.
Stephenson still suprises me that the roos seem like the only club that showed interest?
Why? I dont accept that he was a bit of an idiot? ie Noble incident. With so much talent you would think you can turn him ariund like Dane Swan and his mate Dustie

What was the Noble incident?

 

[mike123]

I think it shows players have to much power, I follow the club first and foremost. Clubs should be able to trade players, if you’re good enough and valued you don’t get traded. Surplus in one area should be traded to fill a need elsewhere.


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Players have the right amount of power, they shouldn’t be forced to move to places they don’t want to go just because the club stuffed their cap.

 

[Jen2310]

Looking like we made the right decision every day. Some things change. While some things stay the same


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[Jasper84]

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Putting in the hard yard glass with his personal trainer

 

[Kappa]

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Mommy won't be happy.

 

[Linda_Lovelace]

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Club is more concerned about other 'issues' than drinking based on what I was told by someone 'connected'. That photo does not make a lot of sense as he is clearly in a licenced venue and they do not allow people to buy bottles of spirits.

 

[jackcass]

Club is more concerned about other 'issues' than drinking based on what I was told by someone 'connected'. That photo does not make a lot of sense as he is clearly in a licenced venue and they do not allow people to buy bottles of spirits.

Of course it could just be the water bottles they place on tables....

 

[Pistol Night]

Still surprised that the quietly spoken, well mannered kid that was interviewed with his parents after winning the rising star could turn into the biggest problem at the club apparently in the space of 24 months

 

[Linda_Lovelace]

Of course it could just be the water bottles they place on tables....

Well that was a thought but the bottle has bar code and labelling so suggests not.

 

[danielnajdek]

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Nice to see his taking his footy career seriously.

 

[JezzasOnTheAsphalt]

Hardly looks like the worst incident that has ever happened at a pub. Not even the worst behaviour that Stephenson has taken part in in the last few years.

 

[Gone Critical]

I think we really need to wrap thoughts around Stevo was primarily let go as part
of the salary cap dump. It wasn’t part of improving our list, we got heavily into the draft because we had no choice.

If we didn’t have this problem I have no doubt Stevo would be still a Pie. The club will almost certainly have their fingers crossed to hope he doesn’t make this look too bad in the years ahead.

 

[pablo disco bar]

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His a 21 year old with the world at his feet....of course his partying ....who wouldn't

 

[jackcass]

Well that was a thought but the bottle has bar code and labelling so suggests not.

True, but a lot of cafe's use recycled bottles for water bottles.

 

[Apex36]

I think we really need to wrap thoughts around Stevo was primarily let go as part
of the salary cap dump. It wasn’t part of improving our list, we got heavily into the draft because we had no choice.

If we didn’t have this problem I have no doubt Stevo would be still a Pie. The club will almost certainly have their fingers crossed to hope he doesn’t make this look too bad in the years ahead.

Sorry, but even with our salary issues I don’t buy that. Treloar and Phillips alone freed up nearly $1.2m from this years cap. As bad as our cap problem was, there’s no way we were running $1.8m over. If the club had wanted to keep Stephenson then they would have. There were/are clearly other issues at play, and judging by the above photo, he hasn’t pulled his head in in the slightest. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if he’s still on the punt, despite it nearly ending his career befoee free it really began.

 

[Billys Back]

I think we really need to wrap thoughts around Stevo was primarily let go as part
of the salary cap dump. It wasn’t part of improving our list, we got heavily into the draft because we had no choice.

If we didn’t have this problem I have no doubt Stevo would be still a Pie. The club will almost certainly have their fingers crossed to hope he doesn’t make this look too bad in the years ahead.

i partly disagree. His form an attitude were obviously an issue given he was supposedly spoken to about it. I also think to hear Walsh feel a need to come out and say that Stephensen basically wasn’t telling the truth re: concerns the club had etc, suggests the club wasn’t happy with him and possibly didn’t see him address his playing issues. Of course if he was on $200knthey may have given him another year. If it’s true they bumped up his contract to $500k pa, well it was the easier decision the club made

 

[Gone Critical]

Sorry, but even with our salary issues I don’t buy that. Treloar and Phillips alone freed up nearly $1.2m from this years cap. As bad as our cap problem was, there’s no way we were running $1.8m over. If the club had wanted to keep Stephenson then they would have. There were/are clearly other issues at play, and judging by the above photo, he hasn’t pulled his head in in the slightest. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if he’s still on the punt, despite it nearly ending his career befoee free it really began.

If that was true, and I have heard indirectly via someone in the AFL our problems were huge cap wise, then its even worse.

If we decided to exit Stevo anyway yet didnt tell him in his exit interviews to seek another club, if we didn't alert the marketplace to give them time to react and be in a position to make offers its unforgivable incompetence. At a minimum if we didn't have to conduct a firesale on him wait for 2021 and give him time so as to get the best price.

If we pushed him out the door at the last moment when almost all AFL lists were already filled and without any opportunity to achieve reasonable recompense that is the worst list decision I can think we have ever made.

If we were always letting him go why wait until there was no chance to negotiate anything?

 

[Gone Critical]

i partly disagree. His form an attitude were obviously an issue given he was supposedly spoken to about it. I also think to hear Walsh feel a need to come out and say that Stephensen basically wasn’t telling the truth re: concerns the club had etc, suggests the club wasn’t happy with him and possibly didn’t see him address his playing issues. Of course if he was on $200knthey may have given him another year. If it’s true they bumped up his contract to $500k pa, well it was the easier decision the club made

Why wait til there was no chance of even getting a reasonable deal done if what you say is true? Why didn't we tell him seasons end to look to other options?

Makes no sense at all.

The club should have just clarified they got caught out with the covid changes and the cap changes and had no choice but to move on some quality at seasons end. Short term pain but no real gain and Stevo, Treloar and Phillips were the 3 chosen.

 

[jackcass]

If that was true, and I have heard indirectly via someone in the AFL our problems were huge cap wise, then its even worse.

If we decided to exit Stevo anyway yet didnt tell him in his exit interviews to seek another club, if we didn't alert the marketplace to give them time to react and be in a position to make offers its unforgivable incompetence. At a minimum if we didn't have to conduct a firesale on him wait for 2021 and give him time so as to get the best price.

If we pushed him out the door at the last moment when almost all AFL lists were already filled and without any opportunity to achieve reasonable recompense that is the worst list decision I can think we have ever made.

If we were always letting him go why wait until there was no chance to negotiate anything?

The scuttlebutt about Stevo being on the table started early I thought. It was probably post season so clubs may have already committed to others, but I think if there weren't other "issues" then they could still have found room if they'd wanted.

 

[Apex36]

If that was true, and I have heard indirectly via someone in the AFL our problems were huge cap wise, then its even worse.

If we decided to exit Stevo anyway yet didnt tell him in his exit interviews to seek another club, if we didn't alert the marketplace to give them time to react and be in a position to make offers its unforgivable incompetence. At a minimum if we didn't have to conduct a firesale on him wait for 2021 and give him time so as to get the best price.

If we pushed him out the door at the last moment when almost all AFL lists were already filled and without any opportunity to achieve reasonable recompense that is the worst list decision I can think we have ever made.

If we were always letting him go why wait until there was no chance to negotiate anything?

You could ask exactly the same question of your salary cap scenario. It’s not like the club suddenly woke up on the last day of trades and realised they needed to offload another $600k.

 

[Billys Back]

Why wait til there was no chance of even getting a reasonable deal done if what you say is true? Why didn't we tell him seasons end to look to other options?

Makes no sense at all.

The club should have just clarified they got caught out with the covid changes and the cap changes and had no choice but to move on some quality at seasons end. Short term pain but no real gain and Stevo, Treloar and Phillips were the 3 chosen.

My understanding is that he was told prior to draft he should be looking around. That’s why Walsh stepped in and confirmed it in a radio interview.
It wouldn’t have surprised me if Stephensen didn’t take it seriously to begin with and maybe half way through the draft realised he was out.