Traded Jaidyn Stephenson [traded with Bosenavulagi and #39 to North for #26, #33 and 2021 R4]

[TradeDraft]

Worth More to Collingwood then in a Trade

 

[Hamingja]

What did Stringer end up getting traded for? Stephenson would be in a similar spot.

 

[Damon_3388]

I think you're reading too much into it - I've never heard "on the outer" to mean anything other than being out of form or out of favour for selection. Nothing to do with all that other stuff you mentioned, Stephenson simply isn't doing enough to demand selection right now

Well that's just not true.

Plenty of times a player that has reportee to have been on the outer just hasn't been seen as best 22. It doesn't necessarily mean there are behavioural issues etc

I'll use this recent article from AFL.com for example

Will he ever get picked? 10 players mysteriously on the outer

Four rounds into the season, a host of players remain on the outer at their clubs. When will their time come?

www.afl.com.au

Alright, that's good. There's plenty of instances where that phrase can be intended to have other meanings, too.

Both in this thread, in others, and in the media, there has been the implication that there's more to Stphenson's non-selection than meets the eye, and that he is or should be on his way out of Collingwood.

Personally, I think that's a bunch of cap, and it's a simple case of him not playing well enough, and still having areas of his game to work on.

I'd be surprised if he's not at Collingwood in 2021 and beyond.

 

[Damon_3388]

2 x top 5 picks?

What are they smoking?

Who has seriously said he's worth 2 x top 5 picks?

 

[schmuttt]

We should throw the house at him if he is available.

 

[JLC]

Would have to be an exceptional deal, to even consider trading him.

Just needs a proper pre season and to do the hard work like Josh Daicos was prepared to Do.

 

[Virgin Dog]

What did Stringer end up getting traded for? Stephenson would be in a similar spot.

Pick 25 + Pick 30. Equivalent to Pick 11 in terms of points

 

[WWSD]

Collingwood can have the Hawks pick 3.

 

[TradeDraft]

The Sam Edmund Article was just Opinion and nothing Else

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Collingwood can have the Hawks pick 3.

They’d take that and run. All while laughing.

 

[Obeanie1]

They’d take that and run. All while laughing.

You think?

 

[Rusty Beam]

Not sure the club would be that keen to move him on given he is contracted.

I’m also in the camp that our cap issues are being massively sensationalised and overblown. So not sure that’s a massive issue.

Trade value would probably be comfortably somewhere in that 10-15 range IMO. Only third year in and his output in well above his peers (apart from mature ages), even considering some significant issues along the way.

 

[Prochard123]

Not sure the club would be that keen to move him on given he is contracted.

I’m also in the camp that our cap issues are being massively sensationalised and overblown. So not sure that’s a massive issue.

Trade value would probably be comfortably somewhere in that 10-15 range IMO. Only third year in and his output in well above his peers (apart from mature ages), even considering some significant issues along the way.

If a former pick 6 can perform as well as he has for 2 seasons, and still depreciate to a pick 10-15 in a compromised draft year off the back of 1 injury riddled season, then either draft picks are still being severely overrated or we have 15 future Chris Judds in this draft.

 

[RedVest4]

I know I’m probably in the minority here but there is no way I’d be giving up anything more than pick 30 for Stephenson. Looks a very one dimensional player and can’t see much upside if any on what he has delivered to date.

 

[kreglze]

Don't think the Suns would bite, but I wouldn't want them to give up anything more than a late first/early 2nd for him.

 

[Rusty Beam]

If a former pick 6 can perform as well as he has for 2 seasons, and still depreciate to a pick 10-15 in a compromised draft year off the back of 1 injury riddled season, then either draft picks are still being severely overrated or we have 15 future Chris Judds in this draft.

That’s why I said comfortably.

 

[Bardo State]

Collingwood can have the Hawks pick 3.

Hawthorn hold North's second pick. This is a baseless hypothetical but if they were able to upgrade their first to Hawthorn's and bring in North's 2nd pick, they could have a top 3 pick and still match a high bid for McInness.

What's that worth to them? Surely Stephenson and then some.

 

[Joao]

Zero interest if he actually has off-field issues (IDK if he does that's just speculation) but I'd hand over whatever our first ends up being without hesitation if him being out of the team is just form. Of course he's unlikely to be interested heading west but then I suspect Aish wasn't either.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

What did Stringer end up getting traded for? Stephenson would be in a similar spot.

25 and 30.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Hawthorn hold North's second pick. This is a baseless hypothetical but if they were able to upgrade their first to Hawthorn's and bring in North's 2nd pick, they could have a top 3 pick and still match a high bid for McInness.

What's that worth to them? Surely Stephenson and then some.

I doubt McInnis gets bid before collingwoods current R1 anyway so I doubt that's enticing to Collingwood. and regardless hawthorn can't trade 3 unless they bring another R1 so 3 and north 2nd for Stephenson and collingwoods R1 (currently 13) would have to be the offer and I doubt Collingwood take that.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Worth about pick 10-20 in a normal draft but this years draft sucks so maybe worth top 10 pick

I suspect Carlton go hard

 

[tombomb]

If Collingwood were willing to listen to offers, that would be a massive red flag to me.

 

[Cudi]

Should suddenly be our no 1 target. I suspect our straight out first may not be quite enough.

Would be happy to chuck in someone like Bailey Dale, out of favour but very talented.

 

[TradeDraft]

If Collingwood were willing to listen to offers, that would be a massive red flag to me.

Big word there is IF.

Article was an Opionon Piece from nothing from Collingwood or Stephenson

 

[4THAWN]

Would want him at the hawks, but would definitely not want to give up pick 3 for him. Hard to see Collingwood accepting anything other than a decent player or a first round pick for him. I know he's not in the best 22 right now but he's shown a lot for a 21 year old small forward.

Jack Gunston probably appeals to Collingwood as he'd fit well between Cameron as the #1 big forward and Mihocek as a 3rd marking forward. Reckon Mihocek will benefit greatly once Collingwood has 2 decent marking targets and he can take a smaller defender to exploit in the air.