Society & Culture Jail

[saintsrfreak]

As time wore on and "husbands" came and went, Rodney perfected the art of being a "prison ho", as his only means of surviving intact. This involved establishing a female name and identity

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/mar/07/grim-truth-gay-in-prison

 

[Old Skool]

"Rodney" was a repressed homosexual.

 

[saintsrfreak]

"Rodney" was a repressed homosexual.

The point is the inmates made him act like a woman, why would a homosexual do that?

 

[Old Skool]

The point is the inmates made him act like a woman, why would a homosexual do that?

This is getting ridiculous. People of all sexual persuasions engage in role play. People can only be subjugated if they allow that to happen.

This is the U.S. and could be embellished or a complete lie for all we know.

It has little in common with Australia and the discussion in this thread.

 

[Spuddage]

http://www.livingwell.org.au/Generalinformation/Statistics.aspx

1 in 4 New South Wales prisoners aged 18-25 years reported being sexually assaulted in prison – this is consistent with other studies in Australia, United States, United Kingdom and Canada.

 

[skilts]

It has little in common with Australia and the discussion in this thread.

Given half an opportunity, people would rather talk about rooting than just about anything else. Most in the media are similarly engaged. Possibly, we should be glad that much more talking about rooting goes on than actual rooting. Not sure about that one though. People also seem obsessed with criminality and prisons. I attribute all of this to voyeuristic tendencies.

 

[saintsrfreak]

This is getting ridiculous. People of all sexual persuasions engage in role play. People can only be subjugated if they allow that to happen.

This is the U.S. and could be embellished or a complete lie for all we know.

It has little in common with Australia and the discussion in this thread.

The relevance is you think a prison rapist must be homosexual. I disagree. I see I can't change your mind so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Old Skool]

Given half an opportunity, people would rather talk about rooting than just about anything else. Most in the media are similarly engaged. Possibly, we should be glad that much more talking about rooting goes on than actual rooting. Not sure about that one though. People also seem obsessed with criminality and prisons. I attribute all of this to voyeuristic tendencies.

It's an interesting point. I think many people empathise with the romanticism of the outlaw as a repressed part of their own nature.

The fascination with prison rape is bizarre. I figure certain people of a certain psychological make up view sexual subjugation as a price to be paid for disobeying the rules.

 

[Old Skool]

The relevance is you think a prison rapist must be homosexual. I disagree. I see I can't change your mind so I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I understand that it's a power thing, but in order to gain an erection from sexual contact with a male, a person must have homosexual tendencies.

Why not just use violence without the penis being involved?

 

[woopedazz]

I understand that it's a power thing, but in order to gain an erection from sexual contact with a male, a person must have homosexual tendencies.

Why not just use violence without the penis being involved?

Ever heard of gays who get married and live in the closet? They must really be straight if they have sex with a woman.

 

[Old Skool]

Ever heard of gays who get married and live in the closet? They must really be straight if they have sex with a woman.

This is referred to as bisexuality.

 

[robstewart23]

It seems like a place best avoided anyway.

 

[saintsrfreak]

I understand that it's a power thing, but in order to gain an erection from sexual contact with a male, a person must have homosexual tendencies.

Why not just use violence without the penis being involved?

I think along with rape being the most violent thing possible, prisoners with extremely long prison sentences will quite frankly take any hole they can. They pretend the person they're raping is female and if they aren't actually attracted to males, then I don't believe they're gay.

 

[saintsrfreak]

And the reason I brought up prison rape is most prison movies show it as a common occurrence, I wanted to know if this an exaggeration

 

[skilts]

It's an interesting point. I think many people empathise with the romanticism of the outlaw as a repressed part of their own nature.

The fascination with prison rape is bizarre. I figure certain people of a certain psychological make up view sexual subjugation as a price to be paid for disobeying the rules.

It's equally possible that people are just irredeemable gigs, or in the rhyming vernacular, Moreton Bay Figs.

 

[Gough]

This debate completely discounts the fact that a fair bit of sex that goes on within prisons is consensual.

0- Exclusively heterosexual with no homosexual
1- Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
2- Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3- Equally heterosexual and homosexual
4- Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5- Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
6- Exclusively homosexual
If you look at the Kinsey scale of human sexuality, it's not hard to imagine that while there are a fair few 1's and 6's in this world there is also a lot of scope for sexual fluidity inbetween. I'm not saying that rape and sexual assault is not used as a weapon in a prison, but it is not the only type of sex that occurs inside either.

 

[Impunity!]

7 - Jack Ziebell

 

[Puntroad]

7 - Tom Swift

EFA

 

[Deadline]

I hear Loddon Prison (Castlemaine) is a great place to do time. Food is terrible though.

 

[nicky]

This debate completely discounts the fact that a fair bit of sex that goes on within prisons is consensual.

0- Exclusively heterosexual with no homosexual
1- Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
2- Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3- Equally heterosexual and homosexual
4- Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5- Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
6- Exclusively homosexual
If you look at the Kinsey scale of human sexuality, it's not hard to imagine that while there are a fair few 1's and 6's in this world there is also a lot of scope for sexual fluidity inbetween. I'm not saying that rape and sexual assault is not used as a weapon in a prison, but it is not the only type of sex that occurs inside either.

So most of the prisoners engaging in sex are gay?

 

[estibador]

That link doesn't work

Here's the link http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136858

That's the most interesting thing I've read for a long time. Took ages to read but was well worth it.

 

[chargers 09]

That's the most interesting thing I've read for a long time. Took ages to read but was well worth it.

Apparently the blokes a fraud mate.

 

[estibador]

Apparently the blokes a fraud mate.

Yeah I just got to that part of the thread.

Shame, pretty elaborate story he created there.

 

[Dazb86]

Thread needs more prison rape

http://www.jimgoad.net/pdf/prison/donny.pdf

Read that.

It gets pretty graphic.

 

[Old Skool]

I lolled at the advertisement for "Jail Punk" "100% pure ass grease" "field tested"