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Delisted Jake Spencer

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Anyone who saw Martin play against West Coast wouldn't be calling for him in the team.

Spencer won some nice hit outs. He needs to continue to play until Martin, PJ, the Fitz even Newton demand his second ruck spot. However it should be with about 35% game time in the ruck and only about 10% time up forward because he is a liability up there.
 
Anyone who saw Martin play against West Coast wouldn't be calling for him in the team.

Spencer won some nice hit outs. He needs to continue to play until Martin, PJ, the Fitz even Newton demand his second ruck spot. However it should be with about 35% game time in the ruck and only about 10% time up forward because he is a liability up there.

Very true.

Martin worries me in that he appears to be extremely soft for a man of his stature, and that certainly isn't a desirable characteristic for a ruckman.

In fact, I'd go as far to suggest that unless he improves that area of his game, he won't make it.
 
When I saw Jake the snake named I thought maybe the coach would play Jamar at FF & stretch Hawthorn's Back line (remember Jamar kicked 5 in a game last year), but At the staart Jake was FF and we didn't kick a goal untill Qtr 2 when Jamar rested at FF.

He kicks a goal becomes a target we can go for & then goes off the ground!, or continues to play ruck ( does quite well), but surely Jake is there purely to free the big Russian up.

Jake or Martin - Martin by a mile!
 

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I saw Martin against the Eagles and yeah, he wasn't great. We basically need to get Jamar to ruck more often and almost concede that we'll get dominated when he's not in there. Having Martin in the team at least gives us some forward and defence options.
 
I'd rather PJ in there and that's saying something.
True, it's a very sad day for the club when we want him back. Spencer plays like a ******ed giraffe. He needs to spend a lot of time at Casey to see if he can develop some tricks. I thought we had a player when I saw him in the NAB cup last year he hasn't got anywhere near that performance ever since.
 
This kinda highlights that we done the right thing in
the draft by drafting Gawn and Fitz - both of which will
be used at ruckman when they mature.

Spencer is a hack, nothing short of, he is just in there
filling time and backing up Jamar - whilst the likes of
Gawn and Fitz mature, which will take some time.
Not this year and probably not even next year.

We arent much chop at the moment, because we have
alot of kids out there with very little experience.
 
The issue with Spencer is that he is a project ruckman who is not ready for AFL level football. We have our hands tied for ruckmen so he got the upgrade - ideally he'd be getting ruck time at Casey. Calling him a hack or for him to be booted completely misses the point of where he is at as a player and where the team ruck stocks are at.

We lost by 10 goals, some people just need to deal with it whilst keeping some semblance of perspective. This board is a ****ing joke at times.
 
Spencer as a ruck is both raw and poor.

As a forward however, he is a liability.

And maybe this is because I didn't see the game against WC at Casey but I would much rather Stefan Martin in the team. With a Jamar - Martin combination, I would give a 60 (Jamar) - 40 (Martin) split of ruck time with each spending the rest of the time at Full Forward.
 
I'd bump that ratio up to about 75-25 but yeah.

Unfortunately Jamar is our only player who can take contested marks.

Jamar vs Jolly
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Hopefully a pair of boots, jumper and kit bag.

Give the guy time.......time in the slammer for impersonating a footballer.

Guys on MMM were having a field day with jokes on Jake The Snake. For a ruckman to have no stats ( includes zero hit outs ) ...half way through the 3rd quarter of an AFL game, was an absolute disgrace.

What's even more disgraceful is that this beggar of a footballer, probably received a cheque for at least $4000 to $5000 bucks after the game.

A complete joke....but I for one am not laughing.

What about you guys?.....yes..we'll keep buying our membership tickets, but man o man, when I see rabble like Spencer & Miller, getting paid for that performance, I really wonder what is it all about.

I'm really dreading what the Pies will do to us this weekend. Theyu will maul us by at least 80+ if they are fair dinkum.
 
The issue with Spencer is that he is a project ruckman who is not ready for AFL level football. We have our hands tied for ruckmen so he got the upgrade - ideally he'd be getting ruck time at Casey. Calling him a hack or for him to be booted completely misses the point of where he is at as a player and where the team ruck stocks are at.

We lost by 10 goals, some people just need to deal with it whilst keeping some semblance of perspective. This board is a ****ing joke at times.

I agree with the bold bits.

If we had decent ruckmen he wouldnt be on our list. But we dont.

I didnt see Martins shocker against the Eagles but perhaps that swayed the selection committees minds. I hoep they play him next week because I see more upside and flexibility by grooming Martin.
 
I agree with the bold bits.

If we had decent ruckmen he wouldnt be on our list. But we dont.

I didnt see Martins shocker against the Eagles but perhaps that swayed the selection committees minds. I hoep they play him next week because I see more upside and flexibility by grooming Martin.

Are you saying this board isn't a ****ing joke at times?

I'd say it's a ****ing joke at the best of times :D
 
I know this should be a new thread but I'm new and haven't got the perms yet. But from the hawks game, what does brad miller bring to the mfc? He is one of our experienced players and our main target up front (except for Spencer (lol)) and made absolutely no impact whatsoever.

He took a mark in the centre square, and, as a sole result of his laziness,was found all alone sometime in the fourth quarter. Did the experienced brad stop, hold the ball until someone ran past him to handball to? Did he wheel around and have a shot? did he at least try to take on the non-existent man on the mark? No. Brad instead decided to blindly blaze away and give the ball to the only two players in front of the ball, the two hawks defenders loitering inside our forward 50.

This is unacceptable. Not just that particular play but his overall attitude (and he is not alone). Why is he playing footy? It does no seem like he wants to have the ball. This is the main want of a forward. To have the ball to score a goal. It is simple. If you don't want to play footy with all your heart, go and drive trams or empty rubbish bins or something else.

Saturday left me feeling betrayed. Betrayed by a club that stands for so much but delivered so little. Seeing members walking out early and discarding their scarves into bins was something I'd never expected to see at a dees game, as bad as we have been.

The amount of walking being done by our players was ridiculous. As a youngster, you would be dragged immediately and not put back on if found walking. What sort of example are these players setting for the kids we are so desperately trying to attract to the club as future members? Do players in other teams display that sort of lack of intent?I think not. why should you need motivation to run and chase and tackle?! So many people would kill to be able to play afl football and for these players to seem so disinterested shows a complete lack of respect to the viewing public and most importantly the paying members.

It took brad green, who went off in a neck brace to show some fight.

To the others of millers ilk, pull your fingers out or move on to something else.
 
How does everyone think he will go?

i personally think that he is arguably the worst player in the AFL, without a doubt the worst player on our list.
from what i have seen he is incredibly unskilled and not athletically gifted at all.

why, oh why is he playing this week...? surely another running player would be much more beneficial for the team..

shame.. i was really looking forward to this game, maybe seeing gys play..?

load up on the power..
 

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How does everyone think he will go?

i personally think that he is arguably the worst player in the AFL, without a doubt the worst player on our list.
from what i have seen he is incredibly unskilled and not athletically gifted at all.

why, oh why is he playing this week...? surely another running player would be much more beneficial for the team..

shame.. i was really looking forward to this game, maybe seeing gys play..?

load up on the power..
You generally as a rule dribble s**t. But on this occasion, speak the absolute truth. WTF is the match commitee thinking putting two under done players and a giraffe in when we will need runners in those oppressive conditions. On top of that I put Grys in my Supercoach assuming he would play. BUUUURRRRNT!!!!
 
You generally as a rule dribble s**t. But on this occasion, speak the absolute truth. WTF is the match commitee thinking putting two under done players and a giraffe in when we will need runners in those oppressive conditions. On top of that I put Grys in my Supercoach assuming he would play. BUUUURRRRNT!!!!

You should be slapping yourself for making a trade Thursday night.
 

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